Synthetic Drugs

[Mattus]

Then declare them recreational drugs, and place similar (or even more stringent) regulations upon them?

But recreational drugs are all prohibited.

So how did these types of drugs slip through the cracks? I'm drinking a beer now. Could be happily taking a drag on a ciggy, if I wanted, and wake up with a coffee in the morning.

Na, they're not universally prohibited.

Beer and coffee are regulated as foods, as you must already be aware. I'm not certain about tobacco but probably regulated as a poison?

[AiA in Atlanta]

Synthetic cannabis used to be available in Australia but not sure what the status is now. That stuff scares me. The real stuff does not. Just enjoyed a cannabis lolly the other week.

[AnimalMother]

The only reason these "synthetic drugs" exist in the first place, is because stupid prohibition laws against safer drugs were introduced last century.

It's way past time to renounce those laws, and start working to undo the damage they've caused.

[IQS.RLOW]

Even now, the chemists are finding ways to take two innocuous substances by themselves but when metabolised by the body together creates a drug like high.

Nootropics is an interesting study in how to be a crash test drug dummy.

[AnimalMother]

Even now, the chemists are finding ways to take two innocuous substances by themselves but when metabolised by the body together creates a drug like high.

Nootropics is an interesting study in how to be a crash test drug dummy.

Indeed it is.

I'll just stick with the old school. Safer that way. XD

[Super Nova]

The only reason these "synthetic drugs" exist in the first place, is because stupid prohibition laws against safer drugs were introduced last century.

It's way past time to renounce those laws, and start working to undo the damage they've caused.

Totally agree.

War is over. Druggies win.

Legalise, tax it, control the quality of the drugs, kill the black market....

[boxy]

Synthetics are not easier to define. That's the whole issue with them. It's why the manufacturers can skirt current drug laws and detection- they are undefinable for regulation which is why Australia has analogue drug laws in an effort as a catch all which then acts as an incentive for the manufacturers to further push the envelope in chemical composition.

Yes, I understand that it's almost impossible to legislate against them, and in that way they are hard to define.

However, surely it is piss easy to define individual synthetic chemicals as being "safe for sale". Something that is mixed up in a lab (as opposed to grown) can be tested to be within extremely tight tolerances.

Find something safe, get it approved, and then mass produce it at levels that criminals can't even hope to compete with.

[IQS.RLOW]

Synthetics are not easier to define. That's the whole issue with them. It's why the manufacturers can skirt current drug laws and detection- they are undefinable for regulation which is why Australia has analogue drug laws in an effort as a catch all which then acts as an incentive for the manufacturers to further push the envelope in chemical composition.

Yes, I understand that it's almost impossible to legislate against them, and in that way they are hard to define.

However, surely it is piss easy to define individual synthetic chemicals as being "safe for sale". Something that is mixed up in a lab (as opposed to grown) can be tested to be within extremely tight tolerances.

Find something safe, get it approved, and then mass produce it at levels that criminals can't even hope to compete with.

Let me know how you get on with your FDA approvals for your 'safe' synthetics when coke, morphine, hooch and MDMA are already defined and are the base line for the chemical composition for synthetics and the object of the chemistry is to deviate enough from them to achieve the same effect but skirt the tests.

[Outlaw Yogi]

This entire scenario illustrates the absurdity of drug prohibitions .. of any sort .. and suggests the Dutch got it right/correct when legalising drugs and educating the population .. so it's "Take it/the stuff if you want, but this is the likely/possible/potential outcome/result .. so don't expect any sympathy for being a junkie" .. or dead.