The Weather, etcetera

[mellie]

Does the temperature rise when it rains?

(I am having this debate with someone who begs to differ at present)

Yes!

Because clouds and water vapour hold quite a bit of heat.

It may only be a difference of a few degrees, but I doubt I am the only person to have observed this phenomena.

Are there any other explanations?

[mantra]

Does the temperature rise when it rains?

(I am having this debate with someone who begs to differ at present)

Yes!

Because clouds and water vapour hold quite a bit of heat.

It may only be a difference of a few degrees, but I doubt I am the only person to have observed this phenomena.

Are there any other explanations?

Yes the temperature rises. You know when it's going to rain because the temperature drops a few degrees a little while beforehand. As soon as it rains, the temperature rises again. I've got no idea why - so you could be right Mel as far as clouds and water vapour holding heat.

So why does the temperature drop before rain?

[Jovial Monk]

Latent heat.

[mellie]

Latent heat.

Perhaps, though I wish I could find a meteorology site explaining in precise detail as to why this phenomena occurs.

Basically, I need conclusive evidence "data" to shove down the throat of the individual who is challenging me.

[mellie]

It may have something to do with the potential energy converting to kinetic energy being generated by charged molecules contained within cloud density when it either snows or rains.



Still need a good source however.

[mantra]

It may have something to do with the potential energy converting to kinetic energy being generated by charged molecules contained within cloud density when it either snows or rains.



Still need a good source however.

There isn't much on the net. Science wasn't my favourite subject and the explanations offered online aren't simple.

[mellie]

It may have something to do with the potential energy converting to kinetic energy being generated by charged molecules contained within cloud density when it either snows or rains.



Still need a good source however.

There isn't much on the net. Science wasn't my favourite subject and the explanations offered online aren't simple.

Science was my best subject at school and Uni, and whilst I have a number of 'vague' theories on this, I just cant seem to be able to find a credible source detailing why this phenomena occurs.

It's pissing me off, because it's something so basic, something we have all observed, experienced in our natural environment (with the exception of unnamed those who for some strange reason associate rain with colder weather, this or no temperature increase at all ) ....you would think there would be something credible out there detailing this 'obvious' phenomena.




I'd consult Tim Flannery, though he would simply attribute this precipitous temperature increase to global warming I'm sure.

NOTE: Tim Flannery is referred to as a "climate scientist" when in fact he is actually a mammalogist, palaeontologist and not engaged in true climate science so there would be no point consulting him, about anything to do with climate or even weather.

Sorry, I just thought I'd add that.

[Pastafarian]

Science was my best subject at school and Uni, and whilst I have a number of 'vague' theories on this, I just cant seem to be able to find a credible source detailing why this phenomena occurs.

Yes, but you did Nursing, so the Science in Nursing isn't really science.

[mellie]

Science was my best subject at school and Uni, and whilst I have a number of 'vague' theories on this, I just cant seem to be able to find a credible source detailing why this phenomena occurs.

Yes, but you did Nursing, so the Science in Nursing isn't really science.

Nurses study biomedical sciences, physics, chemistry, biology, microbiology, pharmacology and anatomy, the same first and second year units those studying regular biomedical science degrees undertake as undergraduate students, eg, we sat in on lectures attended the same tutorials and completed the same exams as those studding, physio, medicine, pharmacology etc, the only difference being is we complete/finish our sciences in second year, whereas some of them continue on until either third or fourth year.

At USYD, they didn't specifically Taylor our science units to meet nurses criteria, rather we undertook the same units as everyone else studying biomedical sciences at a tertiary level.

Also, a few nursing students found they preferred actual science to nursing, so switched courses half way through, ie, started out completing a nursing degree and came out doctors, microbiologists, chemists etc.

Very versatile when you think about it, this way if you decide you don't really like nursing, at least your science units didn't go to waste, (you can put these units towards completing another degree) likewise with our behavioural science units ie psychology.

So yes, what nurses study at university, (well, the university of Sydney Cumberland campus anyway) is "real science" the only difference being is we stop at the end of second year, whereas other degrees sciences continue on until 3rd or 4th year, depending on their chosen degree.
They structure it this way so the units are interchangeable this and probably more cost effective faculty wise also.

So there you go Pasta, you learn something every day.




And no, this does not make me an expert on all things scientific and or where weather is concerned, obviously, hence I'm asking for feedback.

Thanks.

[mantra]

Pasta is supposed to be a scientist - it's a pity he wasn't able to respond to your question Mel.