Predators working in Australian childcare centres

[Aquarius]

The evolving nightmare involving Point Cook man Joshua Brown which had me calling the 1800 number and waiting almost 2 hour's to find out if he worked at my own child's Point Cook Kindergarten in 2017, lead me to an abundance of sickening incidents involving men working in Australian Child care centres.

The question is, should men be working with very young children at all?

I don't believe so.

I believe traditional gender roles should apply to the care of very young or vulnerable children, persons.

Gender equality aside, it's a chance that we just can't afford to take.

That must have been extremely worrying Mellie. There is nothing more traumatising than realising your child may have been at the same centre this creature worked.

It's every parent's nightmare in this ludicrous age of diversity.

I am very concerned that there is a young gay Asian man currently working in my grandson's childcare centre. Although this one is very well run and there is CCTV throughout. But you never know exactly what goes on in these centres.

[Aquarius]

I can add that more males should be working in Aged Care than females due to the physical nature of the job.

Jasin, as a female, I wouldn't feel comfortable with a man showering me. Sorry, I think there's a place for males, just not intimate personal care.

Don't go into aged care then Mellie, because there will be dozens of men showering you. Blacks and Indians mostly. I remember there was a black African refugee in South Australia who got a job in aged care and he raped a 93 year old dementia resident. He probably raped others but they didn't have the means to explain this to staff. They often can't even recognise the perpetrator even though they see him every day.

It happens. And because of privacy laws they get away with it because you can't have CCTV in their rooms.

[mellie]

The evolving nightmare involving Point Cook man Joshua Brown which had me calling the 1800 number and waiting almost 2 hour's to find out if he worked at my own child's Point Cook Kindergarten in 2017, lead me to an abundance of sickening incidents involving men working in Australian Child care centres.

The question is, should men be working with very young children at all?

I don't believe so.

I believe traditional gender roles should apply to the care of very young or vulnerable children, persons.

Gender equality aside, it's a chance that we just can't afford to take.

That must have been extremely worrying Mellie. There is nothing more traumatising than realising your child may have been at the same centre this creature worked.

It's every parent's nightmare in this ludicrous age of diversity.

I am very concerned that there is a young gay Asian man currently working in my grandson's childcare centre. Although this one is very well run and there is CCTV throughout. But you never know exactly what goes on in these centres.

Yes Aquarius, I honestly felt sick, worst bit was having to wait until it was time to take her to school, ( she's in upper primary now) before I could call the hotline, and to be perfectly frank, I think almost two hours on a 1800 hotline is just too long to wait. I even used my daughters mobile phone at the same time to call her old Point Cook Kindergarten, thought they could put my mind at peace quickly without having to go through the process, only to learn they had diverted all calls from their own centre to Wyndham council, which further concerned me, clearly they were getting loads of calls too, so perhaps they were one of the centres involved? Fortunately, it was all good news, the mongrel didn't work at her old childcare centre.

We were one of the lucky families, our/ well, my nightmare ended here . * My child was giggly and oblivious to what was swirling through my head that morning as she watched her favourite cartoon on youtube, I didn't even concern my family, wanted to get the facts first*.
My heart honestly breaks for all those caught up in this nightmare, this has to be the ultimate betrayal, aside from one's own husband/ partner, who had done something like this.
Perhaps I kept it together due to the practice affect. Sorry, I know this sounds rather narky, but it's been rather triggering for both myself and my mother who heard the news break in Sydney, quite a few hours after Victoria, and of course called me to ask if our girls child care cantre had been one of them.

I think her centre was one of, possibly even the only centre in Point Cook that wasn't impacted, given it was a Council operated centre, and they generally select the most experienced and qualified staff for their council owned centres.

These nasty things seem to happen in these privately owned centres, and I believe it's because they take advantage of government subsided employment "candidates" more readily and the staff to student ratio is frequently compromised.

My daughter’s previous primary school had a trans individual assisting girls into their bathers at school swimming scheme.
This was the final straw, she's now at a fantastic school we just can't speak highly enough about.

My advice is to go with your initial gut feeling about these matters.

Whilst it was a harrowing two-hour long wait, my gut feeling was she'd be ok, even though she attended perhaps the only Point childcare centre he never worked at.

Strange as this seems, my gut feeling proved right again, and for what it's worth, I believe it isn't a gut- feeling we often get at all, it's more spirituality orientated, regardless of beliefs, or if we believe at all.

I think a lot more is happening in our schools and centres then the system itself would have us believe.

[mellie]

It's going to get to the point whereby people won't return to the workforce until their kids are old enough to communicate effectively, which to be honest, is exactly how it should be anyway. Why have children if you're going to lob them at a childcare centre anyway? Why go to work to pay someone else to take care of your own child? There's too many of these childcare centres seemingly becoming accredited overnight, obviously there's a need, but if perhaps parents weren't so keen to lob their barely-talking kids , babies off onto strangers to begin with, then centres like these wouldn't be employing "diverse" "subsidised" staff to begin with, and could afford to be more "selective "????

People who think that lobbing their kid's with strangers at a childcare centre is any safer than lobbing them off with a stranger in the community is any safer, may want to re-think this.

It's a well documented fact that predators gravitate towards these positions of trust to gain access to their victims to begin with.

What normal guy wants to change other people's kids dirty nappies to begin with?
I'm a female, and have a nursing background but it would have to be my own child or grandchild's nappy I would be changing these days, my stomach has weakened since I left nursing and I'd likely throw-up on someone else's child if I had to change a strangers child's dirty nappy. Lol I feel sick just thinking about it.
It's different when they're your own, we don't gag when smelling our own flatus or wiping our own bottoms do we.


Seriously.


Camers can be turned off.

[mellie]

I can add that more males should be working in Aged Care than females due to the physical nature of the job.

Jasin, as a female, I wouldn't feel comfortable with a man showering me. Sorry, I think there's a place for males, just not intimate personal care.

Don't go into aged care then Mellie, because there will be dozens of men showering you. Blacks and Indians mostly. I remember there was a black African refugee in South Australia who got a job in aged care and he raped a 93 year old dementia resident. He probably raped others but they didn't have the means to explain this to staff. They often can't even recognise the perpetrator even though they see him every day.

It happens. And because of privacy laws they get away with it because you can't have CCTV in their rooms.

I've made my children promise me to let me expire before placing me into care.
Besides, with aged-care packages these days, and people able to be cared for at home by someone who they deem safe, is a game changer. You are allowed to have CCTV in your own bathroom however, so.....

Thank goodness for this.

Yes, there's been so many cases of residents being abused, and when your not actively looking-out for it, you generally don't think of it.

When I was a uni student, I worked in aged care facilities, though because I was so young myself, I never once imagined the guys at work would do such a thing to our residents.

I think the culture of apathy and trust needs to change, sadly.

[mellie]

When we first moved to Ballarat, I joined a support-group for mothers who had perverted ex- partners. Was a space where we all felt safe and not judged because of what our ex- partners did to either our own children or to someone else's. Most of us had ex- partners whom were caught ( often by their wives) with child pornography on their devices.
This one woman in our group's ex- husband ( she divorced him immediately) and she also called the police re- her partner having filth on his computer,( as did I) well this abomination was in his final year as a nursing student and had already lined up his post-grad position at the Children's hospital in Melbourne.
The family had only moved to Ballarat so HE could study nursing at fed uni. They had planned to return to Melbourne as soon as he'd finished.
This absolutely sickened me, and made me re-evaluate all the male colleagues I had worked with over the years.
This guy was actually arrested at work, a local nursing home, and given the extent of filth found on Rowan Parkyns computer, I wouldn't be surprised if he abused all those poor elderly residents he cared for at work too.
His ex-wife agrees!

But as you say, how to prove it? Especially with historical cases involving dementia patients who may have long passed?

The nursing home was absolutely mortified he'd been working with them when they learned of the extent of his crimes, and it only got worse from there. He has been charged recently, and has served multiple offences since he was caught with child-pornography in Ballarat.

They just don't rehabilitate, because they're completely $#@ed to begin with if they can even think about doing something like this to a child or vulnerable person.
So why let them out?
Somehow he was able to leave prison and live with another woman and her two kids.

Again, they often gravitate towards positions of trust to gain access to vulnerable people.

It's definitely changed the way I think and feel about male others, particularly in a caring context/role unfortunately.

If my daughter needed to go to hospital, I wouldn't allow her to be showered by anyone other than myself, I wouldn't leave her bedside.

Had things been different, my views today may have been very different, naieve even, it's this naivety that further enables these monsters within our society, even in the system itself.

There's even been Child Protection Officers caught abusing children, a case in Geelong several years ago involving a ring of them.

Where does it begin, where does it end?

How long is a ball of string?

My only advice is to keep your children close, and leave nothing to chance.

My child's 12, and she's never attended school camps without me booking hotel rooms near the camp locations so that she could shower and sleep under my own supervision.

What's sader, is that she doesn't even want to sleep-over at camp, is happy to attend during the daytime only, and we both know why this is.

We are hoping that she feels safe enough to attend camp some time soon with her new school.

We both trust this school, and all camp staff are female.

Chances are given my newer-qualifications re- Education they'll rope me into assisting on camps anyway so....

Ultimately, it's up to her, I will never place her into a situation whereby she feels uncomfortable or unsafe, ever!

[mellie]

I think most of us have had a brush with these sick rats , be it happened to themselves or someone else they've known and or still do. They thrive in darkness, much like the devil, thriving in people's shame, innocents, naivety, and the social taboos surrounding how we as a society tend not to raise the subject in polite circles, or anywhere really, other than with police, therapists and among other's who've been "brushed " with it.

It's something that I have had to work-through in order to start writing again, and these days, I see it as something that I can use in order to help others, not only those whom have had a "brush " with it, but also to prevent others from being harmed to begin with.

It's got to be discussed, as uncomfortable as it is, especially in government departments, parliament and wherever decisions surrounding the care of all vulnerable people are being made.

It can only thrive in darkness!

We were fortunate in the fact that we were only brushed with it, having escaped relatively unscathed, however, we, my daughter and family all know that this very easily could have escalated had I not taken the steps we did to stop it in it's vile tracks.

Being alert to the possibility is very important, as hard as it is to go prying into the business of someone you love, their computers etc.

If you feel something is wrong, then there's a good chance you are right.

Every single mother in that support group all had the "gut" feeling we talked about.

Some chose to act on it sooner than later however.

The support group had mothers who worked within caring professions and even within surgical and political and law enforcement institutions.

Contrary to popular perception, it doesn't only exist in "the hills" amongst cults or within inbread communities.

It's absolutely everywhere!

We even had extended families attending meetings, grandmothers and aunts, sisters.

I believe its even more destructive to humanity than warfare.

Because we humans are more inclined to talk about war than this.

If you are a paedophile yourself and happen to be reading this now, I have some advice that will help you and others to live their best lives.

Carbon monoxide poisoning is quick and painless, and the best way of saying that what you did was wrong and that you are sorry.

There is no other solution for this social sickness that's become a silent pandemic.

More abused victims die waiting for justice than ever have of any other pandemic or war in history.

Even more than the holocaust!