Depends how you define a "world war". The war against Iraq in 1990 involved 36 belligerents directly (Iraq versus 35 Allied nations) plus several indirectly. World War I only had 20 belligerent nations involved. I think 1990 qualifies...The4thEstate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:37 amWow, REALLY?brian ross wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:05 pmIt occurred in 1990, 4E.The4thEstate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:55 amMaybe the asteroids will destroy the virus.
(By the way, I missed the potential start of World War 3. Who are the opponents?)
Was Germany involved again? Russia? Luxembourg?
Do tell.
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Nahhh ... I wouldn't count that as a world war, because the world was fighting against one nation instead of dividing into two sides all over the globe.brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:01 pmDepends how you define a "world war". The war against Iraq in 1990 involved 36 belligerents directly (Iraq versus 35 Allied nations) plus several indirectly. World War I only had 20 belligerent nations involved. I think 1990 qualifies...The4thEstate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:37 amWow, REALLY?brian ross wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:05 pmIt occurred in 1990, 4E.The4thEstate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:55 amMaybe the asteroids will destroy the virus.
(By the way, I missed the potential start of World War 3. Who are the opponents?)
Was Germany involved again? Russia? Luxembourg?
Do tell.
World War II had an estimated 75 million deaths, including 20 million military personnel and 40 million civilians.
In the 1990 Gulf War, the Iraqis lost maybe 50,000 to 100,000 troops, compared to about 300 for the coalition. There were also about 5,000 civilian deaths, mainly in Iraq and Kuwait.
In terms of scale, it's like comparing a B-52 to a paper plane.
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WWII started against one nation. 1990 started against one nation. WWII did expand. 1991 didn't. Yes, the scale of conflict is different but 1991 still consumed the efforts of 35 nations. Thing is your considering the total of WWII versus the total of 1991. You are comparing a truly world-wide war (and BTW, it wasn't the first to consume all of the world - the wars against the Alexandrian Empire, the wars against the Chinese empire, the Seven Years War, the Napoleonic empire qualify for that), with a war that employed the military forces of most of the war...The4thEstate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:14 amNahhh ... I wouldn't count that as a world war, because the world was fighting against one nation instead of dividing into two sides all over the globe.brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:01 pmDepends how you define a "world war". The war against Iraq in 1990 involved 36 belligerents directly (Iraq versus 35 Allied nations) plus several indirectly. World War I only had 20 belligerent nations involved. I think 1990 qualifies...The4thEstate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:37 amWow, REALLY?brian ross wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:05 pmIt occurred in 1990, 4E.The4thEstate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:55 amMaybe the asteroids will destroy the virus.
(By the way, I missed the potential start of World War 3. Who are the opponents?)
Was Germany involved again? Russia? Luxembourg?
Do tell.
World War II had an estimated 75 million deaths, including 20 million military personnel and 40 million civilians.
In the 1990 Gulf War, the Iraqis lost maybe 50,000 to 100,000 troops, compared to about 300 for the coalition. There were also about 5,000 civilian deaths, mainly in Iraq and Kuwait.
In terms of scale, it's like comparing a B-52 to a paper plane.
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The4thEstate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:37 amNahhh ... I wouldn't count that as a world war, because the world was fighting against one nation instead of dividing into two sides all over the globe.
World War II had an estimated 75 million deaths, including 20 million military personnel and 40 million civilians.
In the 1990 Gulf War, the Iraqis lost maybe 50,000 to 100,000 troops, compared to about 300 for the coalition. There were also about 5,000 civilian deaths, mainly in Iraq and Kuwait.
In terms of scale, it's like comparing a B-52 to a paper plane.
Uh-huh ... for a whole 6 months.brian ross wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:55 pmWWII started against one nation. 1990 started against one nation. WWII did expand. 1991 didn't. Yes, the scale of conflict is different but 1991 still consumed the efforts of 35 nations.
World War II lasted a few weeks longer ...
Right, World War II was "truly a world-wide war."brian ross wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:55 pmThing is your considering the total of WWII versus the total of 1991. You are comparing a truly world-wide war (and BTW, it wasn't the first to consume all of the world - the wars against the Alexandrian Empire, the wars against the Chinese empire, the Seven Years War, the Napoleonic empire qualify for that), with a war that employed the military forces of most of the war...
That's why they called it WORLD WAR II and why they called the Persian Gulf conflict THE GULF WAR.
See how that works?
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Yet all the other wars I mentioned scaled over the world in scope and yet weren't called "world wars". Funny that, 4E. I read once an interesting discussion why we called wars by the names we do. WWI was called "the Great War" and then later it became World War One. It was all a matter of rendering significance for it. Same for WWII. It could have been "the big war". It wasn't though. I'll leave you to your fantasies.The4thEstate wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:44 amRight, World War II was "truly a world-wide war."
That's why they called it WORLD WAR II and why they called the Persian Gulf conflict THE GULF WAR.
See how that works?
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I have no fantasies that involve war.brian ross wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:05 amYet all the other wars I mentioned scaled over the world in scope and yet weren't called "world wars". Funny that, 4E. I read once an interesting discussion why we called wars by the names we do. WWI was called "the Great War" and then later it became World War One. It was all a matter of rendering significance for it. Same for WWII. It could have been "the big war". It wasn't though. I'll leave you to your fantasies.The4thEstate wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:44 amRight, World War II was "truly a world-wide war."
That's why they called it WORLD WAR II and why they called the Persian Gulf conflict THE GULF WAR.
See how that works?
As for why two conflicts were dubbed "World Wars" and the rest weren't, I maintain that it's largely a matter of scale, geography and casualties.
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