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[billy the kid]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... st_attacks
https://thereligionofpeace.com/

Notice how the resident moron glosses over the islamic terrorist deaths as.... "In Europe a hundred or more etc...…."

There have been 35,453 islamic terrorist attacks worldwide since 9/11.....
This figure is not deaths....its attacks.......
Do your homework boofhead.....

[The4thEstate]

Nope. Are you in Crazy America, 4E? I would be. I mean you lot need guns to protect yourself from your fellow citizens, now don't you? Tsk, tsk.

Beats the heck out of cowering in a closet and hoping the thug who broke into your home doesn't find and kill you and your family before the cops arrive. It's the difference between being a victim and being a victor.

Like this mom who protected her kids when an intruder broke into her home and found them behind a door in the attic. Surprise!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcDk85ZOJUQ

Mmm, 1 crazy downunder, how many crazies in the US? 4 by my count...

Even if your count is accurate, so what? Four wackos who kill in the name of Christianity since 2000 ... out of a nation of 327 million people. With fewer than 10 abortion clinic doctors/employees dead as a result.

Now compare that to the Muslim body count from 9/11, Orlando, San Bernardino, Fort Hood, etc., etc.

A total of 3,000-plus ... and counting. At their current rate, the Christian wackos will take their 3,000th life right around the time Captain Kirk first gets assigned command of the U.S.S. Enterprise.

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And speaking of Muslim terrorism Downunder, let's see what happens when we Google "Terrorism in Australia."

Oh my, look at which religion's zealots were responsible for the last eight attacks -- i.e., everything since 2014.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Australia

1. Endeavour Hills stabbings (2014) -- Haider (the stabber) was found to be carrying two knives and an Islamic State flag.

2. Sydney hostage crisis (2014) -- Haron Monis, took 17 people hostage inside a Lindt chocolate cafe in Sydney. He forced hostages to hold up a jihadist black flag against a window of the cafe.

3. 2015 Parramatta shooting -- NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said "We believe that his actions were politically motivated and therefore linked to terrorism." Four other 'alleged Islamic State members' were arrested and charged in relation to the shooting.[50]

4. Minto stabbing (September 2016) -- Islamist Ihsas Khan attacked a man in a park in Minto, New South Wales.

5. Queanbeyan stabbing (April 2017) -- The 16-year-old (attacker)'s mother had told police that she believed that her son had been radicalised in recent weeks and that he sympathised with Islamic State and had also posted concerning posts on Facebook.

6. Brighton siege (June 2017) -- 29-year-old Somali-born Islamist Yacqub Khayre shot dead receptionist Kai Hao in the foyer at a serviced apartment complex in the suburb of Brighton in Melbourne.

7. Mill Park stabbing (February 2018) -- Momena Shoma, a Bangladeshi Islamist, stabbed a 56-year-old man in the neck while he was asleep at his Callistemon Rise home in Mill Park.

8. 2018 Melbourne stabbing attack -- Police confirmed the incident as terror-related and ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack on social media insisting the knifeman was an "Islamic State fighter".


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Did I say "eight" terrorist attacks? I stand corrected by the today's headlines. Oh dear, what's this?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/aust ... l-n1041726

9. A knife-wielding man with a history of mental illness who is suspected of killing one woman and stabbing another in Sydney, Australia was stopped when members of the public were able to pin him on his back using a milk crate, authorities said. Police and witnesses say they heard the suspect yelling "Allahu akbar," or "God is great."

Wow, so the suspect chanted "Allahu akbar" ... sounds like another one of those Christian terrorists, doesn't it?

Thankfully, the Australian government allows citizens their choice of milk crates for self-defense.

No, you don't treat global terrorism as if it were just another civilian crime. You regard it as an attack by enemy combatants and respond accordingly -- with the full might of your military if necessary.

That's why Osama bin Laden is no longer in the business of planning attacks on New York skyscrapers. The Navy SEALs paid him a little surprise visit and administered their own form of justice ("Say hello to my little friend!").

And what sort of trial did he receive, 4E? Mmmm? Then we have numerous other Muslims who have been killed, both deliberately and by mistake in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Yemen... What evidence was ever presented before a court, hey? Seems to me to be killing by fiat.

Bin Laden received the same "trial" that Admiral Yamamoto, the architect of the Pearl Harbor attack, received in World War II after the Yanks intercepted his plane over the South Pacific.

War is not fought with lawyers and judges in courtrooms. When you engineer an attack that kills 3,000 innocent men, women and children, then -- to quote "The Simpsons" -- you have the right to remain DEAD.

No one is claiming that Islamist attacks don't occur, 4E. What I am pointing out is that non-Muslims are responsible for more attacks than Muslims. I also question why all Muslims bear the responsibility for the attacks of their members, while not all Christians bear the responsibility for their co-religionists? Doesn't appear fair to me. What about you, 4E, do you think it's fair?

Sure it's fair, because when your religion is annually responsible for the most terrorism deaths in the world, it strains credibility to believe that only the perpetrators were involved, and that they had no support whatsoever from family members, friends, associates, imams, fellow worshipers, etc.

And it's not as if polls don't reflect widespread acceptance of terrorism among Muslims in Western society:
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/euro ... -1.5430023

"Only a third of British Muslims would inform the police if they thought that someone they knew is involved with terrorism, a poll shows."

Let me know when you find a poll showing that two-thirds of all Christians support deadly violence against abortion clinics.

You know, America is a pretty fucked up place, 4E. Downunder, both attacks get basically equal time. Perhaps your problem is that you are too close to the action and too selective in what you're reading/seeing? Perhaps you need to get out of your country and look at it from the outside for a change?

Nah, we get international news here, too -- through this newfangled thing called the internet.

So, if Christians commit numerous attacks that leave a trail of dead bodies they aren't as important as the Islamists who kill many people, less often? Interesting idea that. Personally, I want ALL Terrorists stopped. What about you 4E? I don't concentrate on one group over all other groups but then, I'm funny like that and not an Islamophobe like you.

Why, of course you're not an Islamophobe -- that's why you reflexively defend Muslims, who cause more terrorism deaths in the name of their god than any other religion on the face of the Earth, at the same time you're beating the bushes to find a whopping 4 examples of terrorism by Christian loonies.

Heck, I'll bet if you'd been present at the raid on bin Laden's compound, you'd have taken a bullet for the bearded scarecrow just to show what a multicultural kind of dude you really are. No wait, it's worse than that -- you're still boohooing over the fact that SEAL Team Six sent bin Laden to 73 Virgin Street instead of arresting him, providing him with a lawyer and giving him a jury trial in a federal courtroom!

If only the International Olympic Committee awarded a gold medal for virtue signaling!

See, are selective in what you read, aren't you, 4E. Europe consists of a great deal more than just France. How about Germany? How about Italy? How about Greece, the rest of the Balkans, Eastern Europe? There were recent neo-Nazi attacks in Poland against a Gay Parade which killed, well I'm unable to find the final casaulty country but it was quite a few according to my daughter. You'd just shrug that off, in favour of damning Muslims, no matter how involved they are or not, in Terrorism, right, 4E?

Ummm ... I've never claimed that Muslims are the only practitioners of terrorism in the world. I've simply stated an obvious fact: Muslims are the world leaders in terrorism, as confirmed by the annual Global Terrorism Index body count.

Let me know when any other group knocks the Muslims out of first place -- and interrupts their "Mo"-mentum.

Show me a war perpetrated by the US which didn't involve Christians, 4E? What, you can't, how unsurprising. When you have idiots like Sarah Palin declaring the invasion of Iraq a "crusade", when you have Christian Americans joining up to fight the unbelievers, what else are we going to call it, hey?

Of course every war involving the U.S. included Christians. Were you seriously expecting America to send the Hindu Brigade?

Heck, I'll make it even easier for you: Show me any evidence of a Christian Holy War perpetrated by a Western power during this or the 20th century. Especially one that resulted in the deaths of "millions of people."

What did both sides declare from the Churches' pulpits in WWI? What did the German Army have enblazoned on their belt buckles? Wasn't it, "Gott Mit Us"? What were the Serbs proclaiming about the Muslims in Bosnia during the last Balkan War?

The last Balkan War was about ethnicity, not religion.

And I wouldn't get too fixated on German Army belt buckles. If the Germans had actually fielded an army of Christian purists, Hitler would never have met with this man in World War II:
https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Antisemi ... ler-590585

Still waiting on you to show me a modern Western nation that waged a Christian Holy War resulting in the deaths of "millions of people."

Your mind seems stuck in the Crusades.
Your mind seems to be ignorant of recent history. 4E

At least I can tell the difference between an army that wages war in the name of their god and an army that wages war in the name of their country.

Modern Christians in Western military uniforms don't kill in the name of their religion, so your argument is invalid

Now publicly perhaps. However what goes on inside their own minds? Who knows.

Ah, so your argument has been reduced to mind reading ...

Moreover, the armies of Western nations include Christians, Jews, atheists, Hindus, Buddhists and even Muslims. So it's laughable that you would even try to describe Western wartime actions as some kind of Christian Holy War.

I've never denied that, 4E. However, the Christians seem to be fighting for Christianity...

In your mind, anyway.

It's a lot more clear-cut on the other side: Find me any Islamic terrorist group that contains anything besides Muslims.

Show me a modern American Army that is less than 90% (at least nominally) Christian, 4E.

Gladly: The current U.S. Army.
https://www.bnd.com/living/liv-columns- ... rylink=cpy

"A Department of Defense survey taken in 2009 found that just over a third of those who agreed to be questioned (more than 6,000) said they either were not Christian or had no religious preference.

"Of those, the vast majority chose 'none of the above' — about 25 percent. But nearly 4 percent identified with humanism (the belief in critical thinking and evidence over dogma and superstition) while Jews, pagans, Eastern religions and 'less common' religions came in at about 1 percent each. Roman Catholics topped the Christian faiths with 20 percent followed by Baptists with nearly 18 percent. Muslims numbered about a half percent."

NEXT ...?

Show me a Islamist Terrorist group that contains ordinary, everyday, Muslims rather than Islamists. You do understand the difference between the two, I hope or are you one of those types who believes all Muslims are by nature Terrorists?

Well, that's just it: Virtually every Muslim terrorist pretends to be an "ordinary, everyday Muslim" -- like Major Hasan, the Fort Hood shooter. And that lovely Islamic couple from San Bernardino who wound up spraying lead at a holiday gathering filled with the same people who'd once thrown them a baby shower.

So you can claim that there's a difference between Islamists and "ordinary, everyday Muslims" ... but it's a lot like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers," because no one has invented an Islamist Detector that can predict which Muslims are genuinely friendly and which ones will someday come down with Sudden Jihad Syndrome.

You appear to be trying to employ the "No true Scotsman" defense.

I think you'll find that Christians kill far more Muslims than Muslims kill Christians, 4E. They do it with drones, with laser-guided bombs, missiles, machine guns and assault rifles. Islamists are much more personal about their death dealing it seems. Funny that, hey?

Actually it's very funny, considering that we're talking about people who wage war in the name of their religion, not warriors of Western nations who happen to belong to a religion.

[Valkie]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... st_attacks
https://thereligionofpeace.com/

Notice how the resident moron glosses over the islamic terrorist deaths as.... "In Europe a hundred or more etc...…."

There have been 35,453 islamic terrorist attacks worldwide since 9/11.....
This figure is not deaths....its attacks.......
Do your homework boofhead.....

Far too much logic there for the resident apologists and islamophiles.

They prefer to spout bull shite and lies.

But remember, Islam is the CULT of lies, they even tell their followers to do it.