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Re: Islam and Islamists.

Post by Rorschach » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:58 pm

Then agree with me... :D
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Post by Rorschach » Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:06 am

One of the latest dikheads from Sydney's west.
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Post by Neferti » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:30 pm

Rorschach wrote:Then agree with me... :D
Will you hold it against me if I do?
























IQ? I am sure you can have some fun with this.

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Post by Rorschach » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:39 pm

Pity gandalf doesn't have the ?????? (insert appropriate muslim word) to come here and rant a bit about Palestine and those wonderful fellows in Hamas. (He supports).
And that is all it would be. A baseless, one eyed rant.
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Post by Rorschach » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:13 pm

Beware: the Syrian war is going global
Date August 18, 2014 - 12:15AM

War spreads deadly viruses of the ideological as well as disease-bearing variety. Just as the First World War created the opportunity for Bolshevism to capture Russia, so today’s turmoil in the Middle East relentlessly promotes the spread of al-Qaeda’s brand of Islamist zealotry.

But for Europe’s catastrophe, Lenin would have remained in obscure exile in Switzerland, instead of becoming a revolutionary leader who, in Churchill’s phrase, arrived like a ‘‘plague bacillus’’. And without Syria’s civil war, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State, would have been an unknown pillar of an al-Qaeda franchise that was confined to tormenting a relatively small area of Iraq.

Instead, Syria’s tragedy has created a world of opportunity for Baghdadi. The war caused by the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 was the making of Osama bin Laden – and Bashar al-Assad’s pitiless struggle to subdue Syria has created Baghdadi’s moment, allowing him to seize territory spanning two countries and thousands of square kilometres.

Now, as the self-styled Caliph of a new Islamic State, Baghdadi is threatening the very existence of the Yazidi and Christian minorities in northern Iraq, who together serve as beleaguered reminders of the pre-Islamic Middle East. Meanwhile, Baghdadi’s virus has spread as far as Oxford Street in London, where leaflets urging Muslims to flock to his Islamic State were handed out last week.

All this delivers the salutary message that a long-running civil war in just about any country with a Sunni Muslim majority may eventually be infected with the jihadist plague. Anyone who thought that Syria’s bloodshed could safely be ignored, or that Assad and his enemies could be left to slug it out, should remember the prescient words of Kofi Annan, the former United Nations secretary general, who warned as long ago as June 2012 that Syria would not ‘‘implode’’ but ‘‘explode beyond its borders’’.

With a battle-hardened commander such as Baghdadi in possession of his own statelet, another theory will also be put to the test. Last month, Sir Richard Dearlove, the former chief of Britain’s MI6, said that the terrorist threat had been exaggerated and the prime aim of men like Baghdadi was not to mount a ‘‘frontal assault’’ on us, but to dominate the Muslim world and, in particular, wage war on Shia Islam and any unfortunate minorities within their domain. Perhaps quite soon, we will know whether Sir Richard is right.

But first, let’s reflect on what Baghdadi has accomplished. He may go by various names – Caliph Ibrahim has become his official title; once he was simply Ibrahim al-Samarrai – yet there is no doubt that he is not merely a religious fanatic, but a strategic thinker and an accomplished commander.

So far as we know, he became leader of al-Qaeda’s affiliate in Iraq in 2010, when his isolated cells had been confined to the area around Baghdad. Their theatre of operations was limited, but almost a decade of combat against American and British forces had allowed Baghdadi and his men to hone their skills to an extraordinary degree.

In March 2013, I happened to be uncomfortably close to their attack on the Iraqi justice ministry. Like all government buildings in Iraq, this one was ringed by checkpoints and a vast perimeter blast wall. None of that posed any problems to Baghdadi’s men. They mounted a multi-layered assault, with the first squad of suicide bombers destroying the building’s defences, thus opening the way for a truck packed with explosives to drive up to the ministry and detonate beside the entrance, setting the building ablaze.

Baghdadi’s cell had worked out how to break through two or three different layers of defence by deploying two or three different layers of attack, all carefully planned and coordinated.

A month after that murderous success, Baghdadi took his skills over the border into Syria where he announced the birth of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

Once again, he showed his strategic astuteness. Instead of joining the war of attrition in Aleppo, Baghdadi concentrated on capturing oilfields in the desert of eastern Syria around the city of Deir al-Zour. By seizing these vital assets, he won an independent source of funding.

Instead of being beholden to outside donors, Baghdadi managed to make his movement self-sustaining. His independence clearly worried the remnants of core al-Qaeda based in Pakistan and, in particular, Ayman al-Zawahiri, the overall leader of the movement since Osama bin Laden’s death. In June 2013, Zawahiri ordered Baghdadi to disband and merge with Jabhat Al-Nusra, a more pliant branch of al-Qaeda in Syria. Yet Baghdadi felt strong enough to refuse. Since then, his driving purpose has been to thrust aside Zawahiri and become what one diplomat in the Middle East calls a ‘‘new brand replacing al-Qaeda in the region’’.

Two months ago, Baghdadi took this campaign to the next level by sweeping out of Syria and back into Iraq. His fighters streamed down the Euphrates valley, capturing town after town, but the commander stopped short of launching a pointless street battle for control of the capital or trying to hold down areas of Iraq with a Shia majority. Instead, Baghdadi confined his advance to Sunni-dominated areas and, once again, concentrated on seizing economic assets.

He took the northern city of Mosul because it contained military depots stuffed with weapons and, most importantly, a branch of Iraq’s central bank holding hundreds of millions of dollars. In the space of a few months, Baghdadi duly became perhaps the richest and best-equipped terrorist leader in modern history and the ruler of enough territory to be able to proclaim the birth of an Islamic State.

Along the way, he did not release videos or taped messages in the style of bin Laden: he allowed his success to speak for itself. Today, volunteers are flocking to fight under Baghdadi’s black banner, including many from Europe, America and even Australia.

When it comes to capturing territory, grabbing enough money to be independent, achieving propaganda coups and sowing terror by persecuting Christians, Shias and Yazidis, Baghdadi has accomplished everything he could have wished. But there is one missing piece in his jihadist jigsaw – one feat that Zawahiri has managed but Baghdadi has not. He has not yet landed a blow on the West. His men have drawn blood in Iraq and Syria, but not in Europe or America.

This brings us back to Sir Richard Dearlove’s theory that Baghdadi will prefer to spend his energies on fighting other Muslims and pitifully vulnerable minorities. Perhaps this will turn out to be correct. But with the inflow of volunteers carrying foreign passports,and with his control of territory and almost limitless resources, Baghdadi has a real opportunity to attempt to strike the West. Put simply, his goals are about to become clear. Either he will be content with suffocating his new domain, or he will lash out and seek to damage ours. There is every reason to suspect that he is capable of the latter. All that remains in question is his intent.

Whatever he decides, the West must reflect on one indisputable lesson: allowing Syria’s civil war to rage unchecked has helped to loose a lethal virus upon the world.
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Re: Islam and Islamists.

Post by Rorschach » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:45 pm

So ISIS or ISIL whatever... those Wackjob Muslims that hack peoples heads off... are they really representative of the greater muslim global population? If not... why doesn't some Muslim Nation get in their and put and end to them.
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Re: Islam and Islamists.

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:25 pm

With the community leaders boycotting talks with Abbott and the vast majority of mainstream Muslims being silent, one has to wonder.

Why is Hizb ut-Tahrir allowed to preach their extremist views here when they are banned in many predominately Muslim countries across the globe.

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