Church of England apologises for saying sex is only for married heterosexuals

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Church of England apologises for saying sex is only for married heterosexuals

Post by The Reboot » Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:04 pm

Church of England apologises for saying sex is only for married heterosexuals

The top archbishops and bishops of the Church of England have issued an apology for a statement released last week which declared only married heterosexuals should have sex.
Key points:

The apology recognised "the division and hurt this has caused"
However, the statement did not retract the "pastoral guidance" issued by the Bishops
In an open letter to Archbishops, supporters of LGBT+ equality in the church described the pastoral guidance as "a laughingstock to a nation that believes it (the church) is obsessed with sex"

Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby and Archbishop of York John Sentamu said they took responsibility for the announcement.

"We as archbishops, alongside the bishops of the Church of England, apologise and take responsibility for releasing a statement last week which we acknowledge has jeopardised trust.

"We are very sorry and recognise the division and hurt this has caused."

However, the statement did not retract the "pastoral guidance" issued by the bishops, which came in response to the extension of civil partnerships to heterosexual couples in the UK.

The guidance said "sexual relationships outside heterosexual marriage are regarded as falling short of God's purpose for human beings", and that people, gay or straight, who are in civil partnerships should be abstinent.

In an open letter to the archbishops, supporters of LGBT equality in the church described the guidance as "a laughingstock to a nation that believes it (the church) is obsessed with sex."

"Whilst we are grateful for the archbishops' apology and the recognition that their statement has jeopardised our trust, the fact is more than words are now needed."

Over 3500 people signed the open letter, including a range of senior church leaders.

"This shows the strength of concern that exists across the Church of England that its mission is being significantly damaged and that their promise of a 'radical new Christian inclusion' must now be delivered," the letter said.

The letter also raised concerns over the Church's' 'Living in Love and Faith project', which seeks to address questions of human identity, sexuality and marriage in relation to Church doctrine.

In their apology, the Archbishops said they were committed to the project.

"This process is intended to help us all to build bridges that will enable the difficult conversations that are necessary as, together, we discern the way forward for the Church of England," the statement said.

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I'm in two minds about this. Some people in religious circles tend to cling to past, and stick to outdated notions, some of which are absolutely ridiculous. However, that's their belief and they've never had to apologize before. It is hypocritical, when religion is often championed in 'oppression olympics' (though more Muslims and Jews (the latter only in relation to WW2) and we are told that we 'must' respect their beliefs.

Now they HAVE to apologize, it seems, to appease loud minorities. So, why does the LGBTIQ "community" (which is becoming a circus full of straight people who wish they were poofters/trannies to get a piece of the oppression pie) get an apology, and not say, heterosexual atheists who engage in intercourse outside of marriage?

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Re: Church of England apologises for saying sex is only for married heterosexuals

Post by Texan » Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:43 pm

The Church of England started as a compliant extension of the crown and they are apparently still a sheeple organization.

Just because it is legal for single people and gays to have sex doesn't mean that all religions have to accept that. We established our 1st Amendment so that government cannot dictate our religious practices. Our religious practices are only limited by our respect for the rights of others independent of our religion. I don't know how things are in other countries, but that's how I live.

My Bible says that sex outside of marriage is wrong and all homosexuality is an abomination. My religion is not the law of any country, but it is my right to believe so and to pass these values on to my children. Anybody else can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't violate the rights of others. Then it's between them and God and none of my business.

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Re: Church of England apologises for saying sex is only for married heterosexuals

Post by The Reboot » Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:11 pm

Texan wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:43 pm
The Church of England started as a compliant extension of the crown and they are apparently still a sheeple organization.
The Church of England began when King Henry VIII went against religious dictation, got bored of his old bag wife and decided the only way he could get away with ditching her and remarrying a sexier, younger lass is to make his own religion, under the faux reverence of Jesus Christ.

I could say just about all religions are "sheeple organizations" save for the ones that teach you to work on your own individual spirituality rather than focusing on what everybody else, or who everybody else, was doing.
Texan wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:43 pm
Just because it is legal for single people and gays to have sex doesn't mean that all religions have to accept that. We established our 1st Amendment so that government cannot dictate our religious practices. Our religious practices are only limited by our respect for the rights of others independent of our religion. I don't know how things are in other countries, but that's how I live.
As people without faith, homosexuals, and people engaging in a natural part of human existence regardless of which sex they are or which sex they are copulating with, don't have to accept religion's views.
Texan wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:43 pm
My Bible says that sex outside of marriage is wrong and all homosexuality is an abomination. My religion is not the law of any country, but it is my right to believe so and to pass these values on to my children. Anybody else can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't violate the rights of others. Then it's between them and God and none of my business.
Well, my "Bible" is my brain, I live according to what I believe and I make my own decisions. With so many religious denominations in the world, all fighting with one another yet claiming to be the "authority" on God and moral supremacy, it's hard to take it seriously or believe in anything other than another means of brainwashing the masses. I won't willingly take for gospel what is written in ancient, musty pages by people I never even knew. I live by experience and knowledge alone, and in my experience, being in love with the same sex isn't hurting anybody or infringing on anybody's rights. The only "proof" that it is in any way immoral is because the Bible said so.

These days, people are moving away from "God" and forming religions without "God". The virtue signallers on the left side of politics have a new "faith" where victimhood and crying about the past is the new Jesus. Religion has never stepped away from its initial views (though there are some more "progressive" individuals within religion, who don't necessarily agree with the "laws" set forth by the bible), at least in an official capacity.

In an equal society, it has always condemned sex outside of marriage. My problem is, they only start apologizing now, when an equally intolerant, loud, preachy new "religion" comes along and complains.

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