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Ban the UN petition

Post by sprintcyclist » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:40 am

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Re: Ban the UN petition

Post by brian ross » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:23 pm

sprintcyclist wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:40 am
https://www.gopetition.com/petitions/di ... tions.html

Please sign
No way. The UN does too much good to be renounced/banned/destroyed by ignorant fools like that.
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Re: Ban the UN petition

Post by Texan » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:42 pm

They don't do any good for me.

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Re: Ban the UN petition

Post by brian ross » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:29 pm

Texan wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:42 pm
They don't do any good for me.
So, why do you assume they don't do any good for the rest of the world, Tex?
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Re: Ban the UN petition

Post by Texan » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:39 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:29 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:42 pm
They don't do any good for me.
So, why do you assume they don't do any good for the rest of the world, Tex?
I never said that. Why do you twist my words?

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Re: Ban the UN petition

Post by brian ross » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:20 pm

Texan wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:39 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:29 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:42 pm
They don't do any good for me.
So, why do you assume they don't do any good for the rest of the world, Tex?
I never said that. Why do you twist my words?
Why do you assume I have twisted anything, Tex? So, here's a separate question: why should the US lead by example by being a member of the UN?
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Re: Ban the UN petition

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:23 pm

Looks twisted to me, Brian. 8-)

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Re: Ban the UN petition

Post by Texan » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:45 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:20 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:39 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:29 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:42 pm
They don't do any good for me.
So, why do you assume they don't do any good for the rest of the world, Tex?
I never said that. Why do you twist my words?
Why do you assume I have twisted anything, Tex? So, here's a separate question: why should the US lead by example by being a member of the UN?
I didn't say that the US should be a member of the UN. Just look at the member nations of the Human Rights Council in the UN. Do you see many human rights champions there?

Burundi
Egypt
Rwanda
Cuba
Venezuela
China
India
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates.

Numerous times, the UN has tried to overrule our Constitution through international treaty. I like my Constitution and refuse to allow foreigners access to my rights and control of my government. Most of these countries can't run themselves. I think the UN was a noble idea and at one time was good for world stability, but lately they seem to be only interested in power that they don't deserve with no respect for the individual rights of humans.

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Re: Ban the UN petition

Post by brian ross » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:04 pm

Texan wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:45 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:20 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:39 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:29 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:42 pm
They don't do any good for me.
So, why do you assume they don't do any good for the rest of the world, Tex?
I never said that. Why do you twist my words?
Why do you assume I have twisted anything, Tex? So, here's a separate question: why should the US lead by example by being a member of the UN?
I didn't say that the US should be a member of the UN. Just look at the member nations of the Human Rights Council in the UN. Do you see many human rights champions there?

Burundi
Egypt
Rwanda
Cuba
Venezuela
China
India
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates.

Numerous times, the UN has tried to overrule our Constitution through international treaty. I like my Constitution and refuse to allow foreigners access to my rights and control of my government. Most of these countries can't run themselves. I think the UN was a noble idea and at one time was good for world stability, but lately they seem to be only interested in power that they don't deserve with no respect for the individual rights of humans.
It appears your gripe would be more with your Government of what ever administration for signing those treaties, Tex. Afterall, without a signature and of course, ratification from your congress, those treaties cannot hold any sway in your country's affairs. I agree that the Human Rights Council members have quite a way to go but before you heap too much scorn on them, consider that only nations with exemplary records can do so. My own country has problems with human rights, as does your own.

Do you think that leading by example is solely about foreign policy? The US has come a long way from the days of Jim Crow and hatred being expressed towards Native Americans or Jews or even Catholics. It has some way to go as far as Gays and so on are concerned. Downunder we have a long ways to go as far as our treatment of Indigenous Australians are concerned. And Muslims and to some extent, Jews. Today we have Xenophobic laws in force against Asylum Seekers.

Yes, those countries have a long way to go. However it should be that yours and my countries show them the path to follow.
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Re: Ban the UN petition

Post by sprintcyclist » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:58 pm

Texan wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:42 pm
They don't do any good for me.
yes, they are not interested in helping anyone.
Only achieving their own goals

they have launched dozens of 'resolutions' against Israel.
Not one against yeman, turkey syria, saudia arabia
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