Trump the bone spur coward is destroying the western world

[Redneck]

MAGA ....what bullshit he is destroying America and the western world



A geopolitical earthquake has shaken US leadership in the world — Russia and China stand to benefit
Published Sat, Oct 26 20193:48 PM EDT
Frederick Kempe
@FredKempe


You could feel the unmistakable rumble of a geopolitical earthquake this week.

Though the tremors have long been evident, it’s growing clearer with each day that we’re experiencing a seismic shift that is threatening the political and economic world the United States did so much to create.

What’s also clear is that those countries challenging American leadership most – China most profoundly and Russia with increasing intensity – see new opportunities to accelerate their gains in the face of a polarized and distracted Washington through November 2020 elections – and beyond.

From Syria to Ukraine, and from Afghanistan to Africa, the tectonic plates are shifting in a manner that threatens not only the credibility and durability of US global leadership but also the democratic values, the Western institutions and the alliance structures that it has inspired for the past seventy years and since World War II.

You could feel the tremors in President Trump’s decision to advance troop withdrawal from Syria and his abandonment of Kurdish allies in Syria. That was followed by Russian, Turkish, Iranian and Syrian actions to translate US decisions into their gains. Moscow emerged as the fastest rising Mideast power broker.

You could feel the quake in Russian President Vladimir Putin’s six-hour meeting with Turkish President Erdogan at Putin’s own version of Mar-a-Lago, his summer home in Sochi. It was there that he and this NATO ally, who recently bought the S-400 air defense system from Moscow in defiance of the West, talked about how they and other regional players would carve up control of Northeastern Syria to serve their interests.

And one could feel the aftershocks as far away as Paris, where French President Emmanuel Macron spoke with increased frustration about President Trump and NATO.

“I consider what happened in the last few days (in northern Syria) to be a serious mistake by the West and NATO in the region,” Macron said after a European Council summit in Brussels. “It weakens our credibility in finding partners on the ground who will be by our side and who think they will be protected in the long term. So that raises questions about how NATO functions.”

The geopolitical shift also was evident this week in President Putin’s hosting also in Sochi of Russia’s first-ever Africa summit, another maneuver to profit from a distracted America. He welcomed more than 40 African leaders with a focus on building defense relationships, providing fellow authoritarian leaders with the tools to maintain power and seeking trade deals particularly focused on energy and mining.

A week earlier, the earthquake’s location was the Gulf, where President Putin visited Saudi Arabia for the first time in a dozen years. The recent attack on Saudi oil fields, which prompted little response from Washington, and the increased ostracization by Congress and others of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman – following the October 2018 murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi – has left Riyadh even more open to Putin’s entreaties.

From 2014, Moscow and Riyadh have grown closer through a bilateral effort both at the top leadership level and through their ministers to work on what is known as the OPEC+ deal on reducing oil output to stabilize prices. Putin’s most recent trip produced a number of new agreements, importantly including a charter on long-term cooperation between OPEC countries and producers that are not part of the cartel that was signed by Putin and Saudi Arabia’s King Salman.

“Putin must be looking out at the world and savoring the fact that things are going his way,” said Angela Stent of Georgetown University, one of America’s leading experts on Russian affairs.

Three weeks ago, Stent attended the 15th annual gathering of the Valdai Discussion Club in Sochi, where Putin sets the agenda each year before an international audience. “The message we received,” said Stent, “was that the West is on the decline, Pax Americana is over, and at the dawn of this new era, Russia, China and India will lead a new ‘democratic’ multipolar order.”

Putin praised President Trump in his address to the group for his “brave actions” in reaching out to North Korea to avoid war, which he called a product of Trump’s “non-standard thinking.” When Stent asked Putin how Russia would deal with an increasingly unpredictable U.S. during the 2020 election campaign and impeachment proceedings, Putin shrugged: “Life goes on, and we will work with the United States.”

Though it has been Russia that has been at the forefront of events in the past week, it is clearly China that has made the greatest and potentially most lasting global inroads. It has done so most prominently through its Belt and Road Initiative, which among other things is the most ambitious infrastructure development initiative in history.

Less noticed have been unprecedented efforts at diplomatic outreach, the newest of these reaching directly into an ongoing U.S. initiative. This week, for example, Afghan officials said China is organizing talks among Afghanistan’s rival factions after negotiations broke down between the Taliban and the United States.

One shouldn’t exaggerate the lasting impact of any the above events – and many more could be included – on U.S. global leadership. It’s also true that the United States continues to enjoy unique advantages that have served it well in the past and would do so again in the future – resilient institutions, a dynamic and job-creating economy and overwhelming military capabilities.

It’s also true that authoritarian systems like those of China and Russia have built in disadvantages that could undermine them over time. China faces aging demographics, slowing growth, Hong Kong protests, and authoritarian structures that may prove brittle in the face of new challenges. Russia’s structural problems are far deeper, and no one can predict the shape of a post-Putin world.

That said, it’s time to recognize the fact that a geopolitical earthquake is under way. Its consequences will grow only greater the longer we are distracted by our own domestic political ferment and fail to respond with a seriousness and strategy that is equal to the challenge.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/26/russia- ... trump.html

[Slick Rhodes]

There is no "geopolitical earthquake" and there will not be one well into the foreseeable future. The author is just overwhelmed by his neurotic feelings and has applied the personal to the geopolitical..

[Bogan]

I prefer to respond to other posters with complete articles, but in Rednecks ( a misnomer if ever there was one) case I need to respond paragraph by paragraph, as his post is just too diverse in it's points.

Redneck wrote (or cut and pasted)

MAGA ....what bullshit he is destroying America and the western world.

I disagree. President Trump is doing exactly what he should be doing. Looking after his own people instead of keeping the US as the world's policeman to a thankless world population. He is a businessman and that just happens to be what the USA needs at this point in time, as the US economy (and every other economy in the world) is in big trouble.

Redneck wrote

A geopolitical earthquake has shaken US leadership in the world — Russia and China stand to benefit.

Gee, why do I get the idea that you are actually gloating about this? I find it incredible that people like yourself hate the western world and the USA so much, that you actually gloat over the thought of totalitarians beating the leader of the free world. What is wrong with you?

Redneck wrote

you could feel the unmistakable rumble of a geopolitical earthquake this week.

Though the tremors have long been evident, it’s growing clearer with each day that we’re experiencing a seismic shift that is threatening the political and economic world the United States did so much to create.

The world order is changing. With the US in economic decline, the totalitarian Nazi state of China is getting stronger, more aggressive, and expansionist. And you seem to revel in that fact? What is wrong with you?

Redneck wrote

What’s also clear is that those countries challenging American leadership most – China most profoundly and Russia with increasing intensity – see new opportunities to accelerate their gains in the face of a polarized and distracted Washington through November 2020 elections – and beyond.

Yep. The totalitarian regimes see the western world as weakening, and you seem to like the idea. What is wrong with you? Where do you prefer to live? Russia or China?

Redneck wrote

From Syria to Ukraine, and from Afghanistan to Africa, the tectonic plates are shifting in a manner that threatens not only the credibility and durability of US global leadership but also the democratic values, the Western institutions and the alliance structures that it has inspired for the past seventy years and since World War II.

The west is weakening for many different reasons. One is because of people like yourself, who never stop criticising the societies you prefer to live in. And always looking for causes that will weaken your own society, like Human Induced Global Warming crap, deficit spending, trans gender pronouns, open borders, Muslim immigration, multiculturalism, fake news, ever more bankrupting social policies. virtue signalling, identity politics, and always cheering on the totalitarians.

Redneck wrote

You could feel the tremors in President Trump’s decision to advance troop withdrawal from Syria and his abandonment of Kurdish allies in Syria. That was followed by Russian, Turkish, Iranian and Syrian actions to translate US decisions into their gains. Moscow emerged as the fastest rising Mideast power broker.

The USA has can not longer afford to be the world's policeman. That is not a good thing for you to crow about. It is a bad thing because it will leave power vacuums that the totalitarians of the left and right will capitalise on. But being the world's policemen is a thankless job, and attitudes like yours proves that point. By pulling back US troops, Trump
is doing exactly what he should do. There are 700 US bases around the world and the sooner he cuts back that number, the better. If the Romans had done the same thing before things got right out of hand, the Roman Empire might have lasted a lot longer than it did.

Redneck wrote

You could feel the quake in Russian President Vladimir Putin’s six-hour meeting with Turkish President Erdogan at Putin’s own version of Mar-a-Lago, his summer home in Sochi. It was there that he and this NATO ally, who recently bought the S-400 air defense system from Moscow in defiance of the West, talked about how they and other regional players would carve up control of Northeastern Syria to serve their interests.

Russia is not the USSR. Russia is nowhere near as dangerous as it once was. It's former "allies" in Eastern Europe are now firmly in the western camp, and they regard Russia (and Islam) as their enemies. They also regard the USA as their friend. But in another couple of generations, maybe the East European youth will forget the lessons of the past, and be anti US like you. Because that is what young people in the west, who wish to portray themselves as intelligent and virtuous, reflexively do as a fashion statement.

But it is much more likely that they will not. Because by 2050, the Muslim population of western Europe will be so large that all of western Europe will be in a civil war of extermination. There may be a new "Berlin Wall" going north to south, to separate western Europe from eastern Europe, to stop the flow of White people trying to escape the European caliphate into an eastern Europe, that was not stupid enough to accept Muslim immigrants in the first place.

Redneck wrote

And one could feel the aftershocks as far away as Paris, where French President Emmanuel Macron spoke with increased frustration about President Trump and NATO.

Macron is so out of touch that his own French working class put on yellow vests and placed a guillotine in front of his palace. It was the perfect example of how out of touch the present leaders of leftism have become from their own working class that they once pretended to champion. The left went university, got degrees and good jobs, and then became the new aristocracy. Then they started talking down to the working class. Now they are wondering why the biggest demographic in western society is turning against them?

Redneck wrote

I consider what happened in the last few days (in northern Syria) to be a serious mistake by the West and NATO in the region,” Macron said after a European Council summit in Brussels. “It weakens our credibility in finding partners on the ground who will be by our side and who think they will be protected in the long term. So that raises questions about how NATO functions.”

Well, I don't. The politics of the middle east are Byzantine, and the situation with the Kurds and the Turks is just one example of that. You can not side with anyone without seriously offending somebody else. And Turkey's recent actions make you wonder how reliable any middle eastern allies (except Israel) are?

Redneck wrote

The geopolitical shift also was evident this week in President Putin’s hosting also in Sochi of Russia’s first-ever Africa summit, another manoeuvre to profit from a distracted America. He welcomed more than 40 African leaders with a focus on building defence relationships, providing fellow authoritarian leaders with the tools to maintain power and seeking trade deals particularly focused on energy and mining.

It is hardly sinister for Russia to seek trade deals in Africa or anywhere else. As for building "defence relationships", what a laugh. If the Russians want the Africans for defence partners, they can have them. 40 "African" countries holding out the begging bowl to Russia would just amount to 40 Cuba's, which the USSR was once smart enough to let go of.

Redneck wrote

A week earlier, the earthquake’s location was the Gulf, where President Putin visited Saudi Arabia for the first time in a dozen years. The recent attack on Saudi oil fields, which prompted little response from Washington, and the increased ostracization by Congress and others of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman – following the October 2018 murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi – has left Riyadh even more open to Putin’s entreaties.

"......which prompted little response from Washington?" Oh Jesus! What did you want the yanks to do? Declare war on Iran? You lefties are just incredible. No matter what they USA does, it must always be criticised. If the US declares war, you criticise it. If it does nothing, you criticise it. This "always attack the USA and the West no matter what they do," is one of the reasons why I stopped being a lefty and became a righty.

Redneck wrote

From 2014, Moscow and Riyadh have grown closer through a bilateral effort both at the top leadership level and through their ministers to work on what is known as the OPEC+ deal on reducing oil output to stabilize prices. Putin’s most recent trip produced a number of new agreements, importantly including a charter on long-term cooperation between OPEC countries and producers that are not part of the cartel that was signed by Putin and Saudi Arabia’s King Salman.

The Saudis are one of the most despicable regimes in the world, and if the Russians want them, they can have them. The reason why the USA defends the Saudis is because of the crucial dependence of the world on oil. In addition, there are other organisations and regimes who would just love to take over Saudi Arabia, and they would actually be worse, and would become a cashed up mortal enemy. Think about that.

Redneck wrote

Putin must be looking out at the world and savoring the fact that things are going his way,” said Angela Stent of Georgetown University, one of America’s leading experts on Russian affairs.

What a weird perspective that is. The collapse of the USSR was a Russian catastrophe the Ivans will probably never recover from. They lost more than half of their populations to entirely new nations, most of whom hate their guts. They lost immense amounts of natural resources, especially oil, to these now largely hostile nations. They lost their east European client states who were their "allies" at bayonet point, and who now also hate their guts. So now that Russia has hit the bottom, and is beginning it's painful way back up again, you characterise this as somehow Russia beating the USA? Like, your kidding, right?

Redneck wrote

Three weeks ago, Stent attended the 15th annual gathering of the Valdai Discussion Club in Sochi, where Putin sets the agenda each year before an international audience. “The message we received,” said Stent, “was that the West is on the decline, Pax Americana is over, and at the dawn of this new era, Russia, China and India will lead a new ‘democratic’ multipolar order.”

Yes, the west is in decline. The reason why the west is in decline, is because there are too many Brian Ross's and (misnamed) Rednecks who hate the superior society they live in, never fail to criticise it for whatever reason, real or imagined, and who gloat over the successes of our totalitarian enemies. And they do this simply because they are educated and they think that anybody with a degree is intellectually superior to the lower classes, and morally superior to the upper classes. They are suffering from Hubris. The idea that they can never be wrong because of who they are. They are the new aristocracy, and it looks like us working stiffs are going to have to get the guillotines out again.

Redneck wrote

Putin praised President Trump in his address to the group for his “brave actions” in reaching out to North Korea to avoid war, which he called a product of Trump’s “non-standard thinking.” When Stent asked Putin how Russia would deal with an increasingly unpredictable U.S. during the 2020 election campaign and impeachment proceedings, Putin shrugged: “Life goes on, and we will work with the United States.”

Though it has been Russia that has been at the forefront of events in the past week, it is clearly China that has made the greatest and potentially most lasting global inroads. It has done so most prominently through its Belt and Road Initiative, which among other things is the most ambitious infrastructure development initiative in history.

I would say that the British empire was the "most ambitious infrastructure development initiative in history." The Chinese learned a lot from the British, just look at Hong Kong. The Chinese have along way to go before they can reach the stellar heights of the British Empire. But they will probably never get there because their propensity to consuming greed, which is not in any way balanced by ideals from a Judeo-Christian standpoint, will eventually see their collapse from overwhelming corruption. Chaing kia Shek (or as FDR used to call him," Cash my Cheque") on steroids.

Redneck wrote

Less noticed have been unprecedented efforts at diplomatic outreach. This week, for example, Afghan officials said China is organizing talks among Afghanistan’s rival factions after negotiations broke down between the Taliban and the United States.

If China wants Afghanistan, they can have it. Sticking the entire Afghan population into concentration camps like Uigars would be poetic justice for Afghans. But this time, the USA is not going to help them. The USA has had a gutfull of Muslim "gratitude."

If the Chinese exterminate them all, who cares? After all, genocide is impossible because according to Brian Ross, "there is only one race, the human race."

Redneck wrote

One shouldn’t exaggerate the lasting impact of any the above events – and many more could be included – on U.S. global leadership. It’s also true that the United States continues to enjoy unique advantages that have served it well in the past and would do so again in the future – resilient institutions, a dynamic and job-creating economy and overwhelming military capabilities.

The US also enjoys one other major advantage. Despite the fact that slagging off about the USA, which has become a fashionable pastime for the Rednecks and Brian Ross clones of this world, the USA has a lot of friends. All around the world. And those friends are some of the most important and influential of the stable societies on the planet. Even former enemies like Japan, Germany, and Italy see the USA as their friend. Russia and China have friends too. But only the bought kind. Or regimes who are so despicable their own captured people would rise up and sweep them away if they could.

China and Russia are friends to North Korea. The USA is a friend to South Korea. Says it all. doesn't it?

Redneck wrote

It’s also true that authoritarian systems like those of China and Russia have built in disadvantages that could undermine them over time. China faces aging demographics, slowing growth, Hong Kong protests, and authoritarian structures that may prove brittle in the face of new challenges. Russia’s structural problems are far deeper, and no one can predict the shape of a post-Putin world.

How about China as the world's only superpower? The first homosexual superpower since Sparta? If you lefties hate pax Americana, I don't think you are going to like what is coming down the road.

Redneck wrote


That said, it’s time to recognize the fact that a geopolitical earthquake is under way. Its consequences will grow only greater the longer we are distracted by our own domestic political ferment and fail to respond with a seriousness and strategy that is equal to the challenge.

Wrong. wrong. wrong.

The west is in decline because we got too prosperous and forgot the idea that any organism that stops fighting for it's own existence will eventually become extinct. Our problems are geared to our perception that after decades of prosperity, prosperity must be a natural law of nature that we need not fight to maintain. Our money is becoming increasingly worthless as our deficit spending continues unabated. Our left wing educated class, who should know better, continue to prance and preen themselves over stupid causes guaranteed to destroy their own economies, and they seem to think that they themselves are immune from the consequences of that. They continue to support multiculturalism, which will completely undermine the social stability of their own communities. This failed idea has already resulted in serious ethnic crime, an unsustainable welfare bill, shrinking and ever more expensive services to pay for that bill, budget deficits, and terrorism. In the not too distant future it will lead to serious civil unrest, demands for separatism, and civil war.

[Redneck]

Sorry Bogan but I didnt write the article, I merely posted it for the members to ponder on.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/26/russia- ... trump.html
Published Sat, Oct 26 20193:48 PM EDT
Frederick Kempe
@FredKempe

Perhaps you should write to the author at CNBC.

Sounds like it touched a super sensitive nerve with you

Anyway keep the orange haired twit in charge for another 4 years and the world will really be fucked imo.

All the allies will gradually realise there is no such thing as an allie with "I'm all right Jack and "Fuck the rest" Trump in charge of USA.

[Black Orchid]

I prefer to respond to other posters with complete articles, but in Rednecks ( a misnomer if ever there was one) case I need to respond paragraph by paragraph, as his post is just too diverse in it's points.

Redneck wrote (or cut and pasted)

MAGA ....what bullshit he is destroying America and the western world.

I disagree. President Trump is doing exactly what he should be doing. Looking after his own people instead of keeping the US as the world's policeman to a thankless world population. He is a businessman and that just happens to be what the USA needs at this point in time, as the US economy (and every other economy in the world) is in big trouble.

Redneck wrote

A geopolitical earthquake has shaken US leadership in the world — Russia and China stand to benefit.

Gee, why do I get the idea that you are actually gloating about this? I find it incredible that people like yourself hate the western world and the USA so much, that you actually gloat over the thought of totalitarians beating the leader of the free world. What is wrong with you?

Redneck wrote

you could feel the unmistakable rumble of a geopolitical earthquake this week.

Though the tremors have long been evident, it’s growing clearer with each day that we’re experiencing a seismic shift that is threatening the political and economic world the United States did so much to create.

The world order is changing. With the US in economic decline, the totalitarian Nazi state of China is getting stronger, more aggressive, and expansionist. And you seem to revel in that fact? What is wrong with you?

Redneck wrote

What’s also clear is that those countries challenging American leadership most – China most profoundly and Russia with increasing intensity – see new opportunities to accelerate their gains in the face of a polarized and distracted Washington through November 2020 elections – and beyond.

Yep. The totalitarian regimes see the western world as weakening, and you seem to like the idea. What is wrong with you? Where do you prefer to live? Russia or China?

Redneck wrote

From Syria to Ukraine, and from Afghanistan to Africa, the tectonic plates are shifting in a manner that threatens not only the credibility and durability of US global leadership but also the democratic values, the Western institutions and the alliance structures that it has inspired for the past seventy years and since World War II.

The west is weakening for many different reasons. One is because of people like yourself, who never stop criticising the societies you prefer to live in. And always looking for causes that will weaken your own society, like Human Induced Global Warming crap, deficit spending, trans gender pronouns, open borders, Muslim immigration, multiculturalism, fake news, ever more bankrupting social policies. virtue signalling, identity politics, and always cheering on the totalitarians.

Redneck wrote

You could feel the tremors in President Trump’s decision to advance troop withdrawal from Syria and his abandonment of Kurdish allies in Syria. That was followed by Russian, Turkish, Iranian and Syrian actions to translate US decisions into their gains. Moscow emerged as the fastest rising Mideast power broker.

The USA has can not longer afford to be the world's policeman. That is not a good thing for you to crow about. It is a bad thing because it will leave power vacuums that the totalitarians of the left and right will capitalise on. But being the world's policemen is a thankless job, and attitudes like yours proves that point. By pulling back US troops, Trump
is doing exactly what he should do. There are 700 US bases around the world and the sooner he cuts back that number, the better. If the Romans had done the same thing before things got right out of hand, the Roman Empire might have lasted a lot longer than it did.

Redneck wrote

You could feel the quake in Russian President Vladimir Putin’s six-hour meeting with Turkish President Erdogan at Putin’s own version of Mar-a-Lago, his summer home in Sochi. It was there that he and this NATO ally, who recently bought the S-400 air defense system from Moscow in defiance of the West, talked about how they and other regional players would carve up control of Northeastern Syria to serve their interests.

Russia is not the USSR. Russia is nowhere near as dangerous as it once was. It's former "allies" in Eastern Europe are now firmly in the western camp, and they regard Russia (and Islam) as their enemies. They also regard the USA as their friend. But in another couple of generations, maybe the East European youth will forget the lessons of the past, and be anti US like you. Because that is what young people in the west, who wish to portray themselves as intelligent and virtuous, reflexively do as a fashion statement.

But it is much more likely that they will not. Because by 2050, the Muslim population of western Europe will be so large that all of western Europe will be in a civil war of extermination. There may be a new "Berlin Wall" going north to south, to separate western Europe from eastern Europe, to stop the flow of White people trying to escape the European caliphate into an eastern Europe, that was not stupid enough to accept Muslim immigrants in the first place.

Redneck wrote

And one could feel the aftershocks as far away as Paris, where French President Emmanuel Macron spoke with increased frustration about President Trump and NATO.

Macron is so out of touch that his own French working class put on yellow vests and placed a guillotine in front of his palace. It was the perfect example of how out of touch the present leaders of leftism have become from their own working class that they once pretended to champion. The left went university, got degrees and good jobs, and then became the new aristocracy. Then they started talking down to the working class. Now they are wondering why the biggest demographic in western society is turning against them?

Redneck wrote

I consider what happened in the last few days (in northern Syria) to be a serious mistake by the West and NATO in the region,” Macron said after a European Council summit in Brussels. “It weakens our credibility in finding partners on the ground who will be by our side and who think they will be protected in the long term. So that raises questions about how NATO functions.”

Well, I don't. The politics of the middle east are Byzantine, and the situation with the Kurds and the Turks is just one example of that. You can not side with anyone without seriously offending somebody else. And Turkey's recent actions make you wonder how reliable any middle eastern allies (except Israel) are?

Redneck wrote

The geopolitical shift also was evident this week in President Putin’s hosting also in Sochi of Russia’s first-ever Africa summit, another manoeuvre to profit from a distracted America. He welcomed more than 40 African leaders with a focus on building defence relationships, providing fellow authoritarian leaders with the tools to maintain power and seeking trade deals particularly focused on energy and mining.

It is hardly sinister for Russia to seek trade deals in Africa or anywhere else. As for building "defence relationships", what a laugh. If the Russians want the Africans for defence partners, they can have them. 40 "African" countries holding out the begging bowl to Russia would just amount to 40 Cuba's, which the USSR was once smart enough to let go of.

Redneck wrote

A week earlier, the earthquake’s location was the Gulf, where President Putin visited Saudi Arabia for the first time in a dozen years. The recent attack on Saudi oil fields, which prompted little response from Washington, and the increased ostracization by Congress and others of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman – following the October 2018 murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi – has left Riyadh even more open to Putin’s entreaties.

"......which prompted little response from Washington?" Oh Jesus! What did you want the yanks to do? Declare war on Iran? You lefties are just incredible. No matter what they USA does, it must always be criticised. If the US declares war, you criticise it. If it does nothing, you criticise it. This "always attack the USA and the West no matter what they do," is one of the reasons why I stopped being a lefty and became a righty.

Redneck wrote

From 2014, Moscow and Riyadh have grown closer through a bilateral effort both at the top leadership level and through their ministers to work on what is known as the OPEC+ deal on reducing oil output to stabilize prices. Putin’s most recent trip produced a number of new agreements, importantly including a charter on long-term cooperation between OPEC countries and producers that are not part of the cartel that was signed by Putin and Saudi Arabia’s King Salman.

The Saudis are one of the most despicable regimes in the world, and if the Russians want them, they can have them. The reason why the USA defends the Saudis is because of the crucial dependence of the world on oil. In addition, there are other organisations and regimes who would just love to take over Saudi Arabia, and they would actually be worse, and would become a cashed up mortal enemy. Think about that.

Redneck wrote

Putin must be looking out at the world and savoring the fact that things are going his way,” said Angela Stent of Georgetown University, one of America’s leading experts on Russian affairs.

What a weird perspective that is. The collapse of the USSR was a Russian catastrophe the Ivans will probably never recover from. They lost more than half of their populations to entirely new nations, most of whom hate their guts. They lost immense amounts of natural resources, especially oil, to these now largely hostile nations. They lost their east European client states who were their "allies" at bayonet point, and who now also hate their guts. So now that Russia has hit the bottom, and is beginning it's painful way back up again, you characterise this as somehow Russia beating the USA? Like, your kidding, right?

Redneck wrote

Three weeks ago, Stent attended the 15th annual gathering of the Valdai Discussion Club in Sochi, where Putin sets the agenda each year before an international audience. “The message we received,” said Stent, “was that the West is on the decline, Pax Americana is over, and at the dawn of this new era, Russia, China and India will lead a new ‘democratic’ multipolar order.”

Yes, the west is in decline. The reason why the west is in decline, is because there are too many Brian Ross's and (misnamed) Rednecks who hate the superior society they live in, never fail to criticise it for whatever reason, real or imagined, and who gloat over the successes of our totalitarian enemies. And they do this simply because they are educated and they think that anybody with a degree is intellectually superior to the lower classes, and morally superior to the upper classes. They are suffering from Hubris. The idea that they can never be wrong because of who they are. They are the new aristocracy, and it looks like us working stiffs are going to have to get the guillotines out again.

Redneck wrote

Putin praised President Trump in his address to the group for his “brave actions” in reaching out to North Korea to avoid war, which he called a product of Trump’s “non-standard thinking.” When Stent asked Putin how Russia would deal with an increasingly unpredictable U.S. during the 2020 election campaign and impeachment proceedings, Putin shrugged: “Life goes on, and we will work with the United States.”

Though it has been Russia that has been at the forefront of events in the past week, it is clearly China that has made the greatest and potentially most lasting global inroads. It has done so most prominently through its Belt and Road Initiative, which among other things is the most ambitious infrastructure development initiative in history.

I would say that the British empire was the "most ambitious infrastructure development initiative in history." The Chinese learned a lot from the British, just look at Hong Kong. The Chinese have along way to go before they can reach the stellar heights of the British Empire. But they will probably never get there because their propensity to consuming greed, which is not in any way balanced by ideals from a Judeo-Christian standpoint, will eventually see their collapse from overwhelming corruption. Chaing kia Shek (or as FDR used to call him," Cash my Cheque") on steroids.

Redneck wrote

Less noticed have been unprecedented efforts at diplomatic outreach. This week, for example, Afghan officials said China is organizing talks among Afghanistan’s rival factions after negotiations broke down between the Taliban and the United States.

If China wants Afghanistan, they can have it. Sticking the entire Afghan population into concentration camps like Uigars would be poetic justice for Afghans. But this time, the USA is not going to help them. The USA has had a gutfull of Muslim "gratitude."

If the Chinese exterminate them all, who cares? After all, genocide is impossible because according to Brian Ross, "there is only one race, the human race."

Redneck wrote

One shouldn’t exaggerate the lasting impact of any the above events – and many more could be included – on U.S. global leadership. It’s also true that the United States continues to enjoy unique advantages that have served it well in the past and would do so again in the future – resilient institutions, a dynamic and job-creating economy and overwhelming military capabilities.

The US also enjoys one other major advantage. Despite the fact that slagging off about the USA, which has become a fashionable pastime for the Rednecks and Brian Ross clones of this world, the USA has a lot of friends. All around the world. And those friends are some of the most important and influential of the stable societies on the planet. Even former enemies like Japan, Germany, and Italy see the USA as their friend. Russia and China have friends too. But only the bought kind. Or regimes who are so despicable their own captured people would rise up and sweep them away if they could.

China and Russia are friends to North Korea. The USA is a friend to South Korea. Says it all. doesn't it?

Redneck wrote

It’s also true that authoritarian systems like those of China and Russia have built in disadvantages that could undermine them over time. China faces aging demographics, slowing growth, Hong Kong protests, and authoritarian structures that may prove brittle in the face of new challenges. Russia’s structural problems are far deeper, and no one can predict the shape of a post-Putin world.

How about China as the world's only superpower? The first homosexual superpower since Sparta? If you lefties hate pax Americana, I don't think you are going to like what is coming down the road.

Redneck wrote


That said, it’s time to recognize the fact that a geopolitical earthquake is under way. Its consequences will grow only greater the longer we are distracted by our own domestic political ferment and fail to respond with a seriousness and strategy that is equal to the challenge.

Wrong. wrong. wrong.

The west is in decline because we got too prosperous and forgot the idea that any organism that stops fighting for it's own existence will eventually become extinct. Our problems are geared to our perception that after decades of prosperity, prosperity must be a natural law of nature that we need not fight to maintain. Our money is becoming increasingly worthless as our deficit spending continues unabated. Our left wing educated class, who should know better, continue to prance and preen themselves over stupid causes guaranteed to destroy their own economies, and they seem to think that they themselves are immune from the consequences of that. They continue to support multiculturalism, which will completely undermine the social stability of their own communities. This failed idea has already resulted in serious ethnic crime, an unsustainable welfare bill, shrinking and ever more expensive services to pay for that bill, budget deficits, and terrorism. In the not too distant future it will lead to serious civil unrest, demands for separatism, and civil war.

[Bogan]

Redneck wrote

Sorry Bogan but I didnt write the article, I merely posted it for the members to ponder on.

Please don't post articles under your own name and then tell us that it is not your article. This is why I have refused to comment upon "cut and paste's" in the past.

[Redneck]

Redneck wrote

Sorry Bogan but I didnt write the article, I merely posted it for the members to ponder on.

Please don't post articles under your own name and then tell us that it is not your article. This is why I have refused to comment upon "cut and paste's" in the past.

Well if you had a brain you would have seen it had a link to and the name of the author in the first post.

It is common practice to post articles on the forums as long as a link is shown to acknowledge the original source/author

You had better tell BO and all the other members that post articles in part or full with links to stop as well.

Dont blame the messenger.

[Black Orchid]

Sorry Bogan but I didnt write the article, I merely posted it for the members to ponder on.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/26/russia- ... trump.html
Published Sat, Oct 26 20193:48 PM EDT
Frederick Kempe
@FredKempe

Perhaps you should write to the author at CNBC.

Sounds like it touched a super sensitive nerve with you

Anyway keep the orange haired twit in charge for another 4 years and the world will really be fucked imo.

All the allies will gradually realise there is no such thing as an allie with "I'm all right Jack and "Fuck the rest" Trump in charge of USA.

Can you succinctly explain how and why you think the world will be fucked?

Do you want the US in the ME forever? If so, why?

Do you like the open border immigration 'policies' of Merkel and Macron and the subsequent violence and unrest that has stemmed from it? If so, why?

Europe's NATO members (allies) are not pulling their weight. The US accounts for nearly 70% of the total spending on defence by all Nato members. You think that is fair? If so, why?

If ScoMo were propping up the NATO 'allies' and paying most of their share just to let them stuff up Europe to the extent that they will be screaming for our help in the future would you be content with that? Somehow I doubt it.

[Redneck]

Sorry Bogan but I didnt write the article, I merely posted it for the members to ponder on.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/26/russia- ... trump.html
Published Sat, Oct 26 20193:48 PM EDT
Frederick Kempe
@FredKempe

Perhaps you should write to the author at CNBC.

Sounds like it touched a super sensitive nerve with you

Anyway keep the orange haired twit in charge for another 4 years and the world will really be fucked imo.

All the allies will gradually realise there is no such thing as an allie with "I'm all right Jack and "Fuck the rest" Trump in charge of USA.

Can you succinctly explain how and why you think the world will be fucked?

Because the Western World will collapse, the strong always helps the weak to some degree

Do you want the US in the ME forever? If so, why?

Never said that but deserting your allies the kurds without a planned and methodical controlled withdrawal has left a power vacuum the Russian, Iranian and particularly the Turks will fill. Nice ally Mr Trump but just watch your backs

Do you like the open border immigration 'policies' of Merkel and Macron and the subsequent violence and unrest that has stemmed from it? If so, why?

No

Europe's NATO members (allies) are not pulling their weight. The US accounts for nearly 70% of the total spending on defence by all Nato members. You think that is fair? If so, why?

The powerful always help the less powerful to some degree, I dont mind him insisting on 2% spending on militarys (as we do), should we help the Pacific Islands or let China move in with military bases or loans that these nations will end up defaulting on.

If ScoMo were propping up the NATO 'allies' and paying most of their share just to let them stuff up Europe to the extent that they will be screaming for our help in the future would you be content with that? Somehow I doubt it.

Dont you think our foreign aid is the same

[Redneck]

If you dont think all the western allies arent concerned about this fruitcake being in charge of the white house and his US foreign policy BO you are living in a rightard pro Trump bubble