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Re: Democrats bid for 2020

Post by Bogan » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:37 am

Briney wrote

Isolation does not solve anybody's problems, Tex. It has failed your nation and it will continue to fail the US.
Hahaha. If the USA involves itself in International affairs, Brian and the loser left complain. If the USA does not involve itself in international affairs, Brian and the loser left complain about that too, probably because they want the USA to intervene so that they have something to whine about.

Conclusion? What ever the USA does, Brian and the loser left whine about it.

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Re: Democrats bid for 2020

Post by Texan » Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:43 am

Bogan wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:37 am
Briney wrote

Isolation does not solve anybody's problems, Tex. It has failed your nation and it will continue to fail the US.
Hahaha. If the USA involves itself in International affairs, Brian and the loser left complain. If the USA does not involve itself in international affairs, Brian and the loser left complain about that too, probably because they want the USA to intervene so that they have something to whine about.

Conclusion? What ever the USA does, Brian and the loser left whine about it.
This is true. Doing nothing is cheaper, so that would be my choice until we are asked to help and we determine that it's in our best interests.

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Re: Democrats bid for 2020

Post by brian ross » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:11 pm

The4thEstate wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:19 pm

But ... but ... but they're YOUR extremes! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
They are the extremes that you have chosen. Not me, 4E. :roll
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Re: Democrats bid for 2020

Post by The4thEstate » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:53 pm

brian ross wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:11 pm
The4thEstate wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:19 pm

But ... but ... but they're YOUR extremes! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
They are the extremes that you have chosen. Not me, 4E. :roll
Right, I've chosen your extremes. I quoted you verbatim.

Here, I'll make it simple for you. Are you denying that you said the following?

1. "Isolation does not solve anybody's problems, Tex. It has failed your nation and it will continue to fail the US." [Complaint about the U.S. being isolationist.]

2. "Afterall, they are the ones who claim that the US is a democracy and that it is the largest democracy in the world (ignoring of course, India, just for a minute). They make that claim whenever the US is invading one country or another." [Complaint about the U.S. being interventionist.]


You're really making this too easy for me ...

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Re: Democrats bid for 2020

Post by The4thEstate » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:06 pm

Texan wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:43 am
Bogan wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:37 am
Briney wrote

Isolation does not solve anybody's problems, Tex. It has failed your nation and it will continue to fail the US.
Hahaha. If the USA involves itself in International affairs, Brian and the loser left complain. If the USA does not involve itself in international affairs, Brian and the loser left complain about that too, probably because they want the USA to intervene so that they have something to whine about.

Conclusion? What ever the USA does, Brian and the loser left whine about it.
This is true. Doing nothing is cheaper, so that would be my choice until we are asked to help and we determine that it's in our best interests.
And that goes double for refugee resettlement. If Angela Merkel wants to import a million Syrians and invite terrorism into her nation's living room, she's welcome to mop up the blood that has and will continue to spill as a result of her stupidity.

Meanwhile, on our side of the pond, I drink a toast to stories like this one:

"U.S. refugee agencies wither as Trump administration cuts numbers to historic lows"
https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-09-27/ ... toric-lows
As the US admits fewer refugees, the organizations that serve them are withering. Local offices rely, in part, on federal funds that are only disbursed when refugees arrive. Fewer arrivals, and thus fewer federal dollars, have financially strained many offices — and threatened a national resettlement infrastructure that has been steadily built up over four decades.

The damage will far outlast this administration, experts say.

More downsizings and closures are likely on the way: The Trump administration announced Thursday that the refugee admissions cap for the next 12 months will be set at 18,000, the lowest point since the Refugee Act of 1980 was established. The cap for fiscal year 2019 was 30,000.

Trump also signed an executive order Thursday allowing state and local governments to veto refugees from coming to their areas.
Gee, imagine that: State and local governments -- not to mention the people who live there -- actually getting a voice in whether or not the federal government dumps refugees in their communities and neighborhoods.

Given the dozens of Somali refugees who have run off to join Al-Shabaab, does anybody seriously think the residents of Minneapolis would voluntarily choose to allow more Somalis into their city ... especially if they could vote retroactively?

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Re: Democrats bid for 2020

Post by brian ross » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:23 pm

The4thEstate wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:53 pm
brian ross wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:11 pm
The4thEstate wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:19 pm

But ... but ... but they're YOUR extremes! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
They are the extremes that you have chosen. Not me, 4E. :roll
Right, I've chosen your extremes. I quoted you verbatim.

Here, I'll make it simple for you. Are you denying that you said the following?

1. "Isolation does not solve anybody's problems, Tex. It has failed your nation and it will continue to fail the US." [Complaint about the U.S. being isolationist.]

2. "Afterall, they are the ones who claim that the US is a democracy and that it is the largest democracy in the world (ignoring of course, India, just for a minute). They make that claim whenever the US is invading one country or another." [Complaint about the U.S. being interventionist.]


You're really making this too easy for me ...
What a shame you missed my points about a middle of the road alternative, 4E.

Get back to us when you read up about that, OK? Otherwise, bugger off and stop wasting our time on pointless arguments which you have erected as strawmen. Tsk, tsk. :roll :roll
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Re: Democrats bid for 2020

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:27 pm

Sorry Brian but you have absolutely no way out of this :rofl

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Re: Democrats bid for 2020

Post by brian ross » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:53 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:27 pm
Sorry Brian but you have absolutely no way out of this :rofl
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Re: Democrats bid for 2020

Post by Bogan » Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:41 pm

4E wrote

Given the dozens of Somali refugees who have run off to join Al-Shabaab, does anybody seriously think the residents of Minneapolis would voluntarily choose to allow more Somalis into their city ... especially if they could vote retroactively?
Not only that. The US Admiral who was in charge of the US "intervention" in Somalia (when the UN begged the US to intervene to stop millions of Somalis from starving to death) had to be put on the US Federal Witness Protection Program (along with his entire family) to stop Somali "Americans" from killing him and his entire family. Personally, I think it is better for millions of Somalis to starve to death than endanger any western servicemen from being killed by these ingrates. Nobody would miss them. As one US Colonel said at the time, "We are feeding them so they can fight us."

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Re: Democrats bid for 2020

Post by Valkie » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:11 am

brian ross wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:53 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:27 pm
Sorry Brian but you have absolutely no way out of this :rofl
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Ahhhhh

Bwyannnnnnnn's admission of defeat.

His silly little emoji

Next comes his personal attacks and insults.

Truely, a 16 year old pretending to be an adult.
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