What should we do about China?

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northofnorth
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Re: What should we do about China?

Post by northofnorth » Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:09 am

The Chinese cartel (AKA the CCP), is riven by factions; at the highest level there's the Xi faction and the Jiang faction. Other smaller factions align with one or the other, depending on what's in their best interests.

The two main factions are fighting a covert war between each other, with the Xi faction currently ascendant and more powerful which is, member by member, attempting to destroy the Jiang faction largely by accusations of corruption and removal from power.

It's not likely Xi is personally corrupted by money. With dictatorial power, he has no need for money as anything he orders is law.

However, with a Xi overthrow, little, if anything will change the direction towards the continued accumulation of power and belligerence of the cartel. Another Xi-faction member would take power (internal treachery) or a Jiang-faction member (if that faction managed to overthrow Xi). Then there would be a bloodbath of score-settling.

The People's' Liberation Army chiefs have advised the factions that it would not intervene in political matters to support any faction over another; likely because the result would be a military junta running China followed by a civil war.

Australia must continue the process of decoupling from the Chinese cartel's influence and continue its journey with the world's democracies in isolating China to achieve its complete containment.

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Re: What should we do about China?

Post by Bogan » Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:26 pm

You seem to be implying that democracy can never arise in China, non? That is a fair assessment. But I don't think it is inevitable. as a man who watched in astonishment when the Berlin Wall fell, followed by pro democracy revolutions throughout eastern Europe, followed by the complete collapse of the USSR, stranger things have happened.

For twenty years, mainland Chinese people have been able to roam the rest of the world and see democracy in action. I think that they like what they see. I think that many Chinese people immigrate from China to western countries because they like the idea of living in countries where they need not fear their own governments. There has already been calls for democratic reform in China at Tiananmen Square which was ruthlessly crushed by the totalitarians. So the undercurrent of dissent is definitely there. Totalitarian governments have collapsed quite frequently in the last forty years and the main reason is that sooner or later, the vast majority of people realise that they do have the power to demand reform. All of the eastern bloc nations did it and most people clapped when that Romanian dictator and his wife were up against a wall and shot. Same in South Korea, Taiwan, and the Philippines.

I think that the best way to handle fascist china is to form alliances, rearm, declare unilaterally our intention to go to war if Taiwan is invaded, and begin distancing ourselves from the Chinese economy. Xi Jipeng has claimed that he is going to invade Taiwan and he has staked his reputation on it. But a united front from the strongest and most prosperous nations of the earth would make him think twice. That could see him lose face and be deposed. And however bad his replacement might be, they could not be worse than Fuhrer Xi. And they might be a lot better.

Why would a replacement regime want to repeat the mistakes that got their opponent the boot?

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