Trump and the Wall

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Re: Trump and the Wall

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:55 pm

brian ross wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:29 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:32 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:19 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:53 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:34 pm
So, the ALP is attempting to appeal to the majority of voters, right? Funny that. You seem to have real problems with being in the minority of haters, don't you?
Yet they lost the unlosable election! That, in itself, proves that they are NOT appealing to the majority of voters in a normal person's mind.

My God you have a strange way of seeing things.
My god, you have a strange way of reading English...

"Attempt" means what, Black Orchid, in your dictionary? :roll: :roll:
All they are attempting to do is appeal to minority hate groups like yourself and they are clearly on the wrong path. It's you and your ilk who are in the 'minority of haters'.
Really? What a lame come back, Black Orchid. Such a silly response. You got it wrong, didn't you? :roll:
You should be called Last Word Brian because no matter how feeble the attempt you always strive to aim for it.

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Re: Trump and the Wall

Post by brian ross » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:21 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:55 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:29 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:32 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:19 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:53 pm


Yet they lost the unlosable election! That, in itself, proves that they are NOT appealing to the majority of voters in a normal person's mind.

My God you have a strange way of seeing things.
My god, you have a strange way of reading English...

"Attempt" means what, Black Orchid, in your dictionary? :roll: :roll:
All they are attempting to do is appeal to minority hate groups like yourself and they are clearly on the wrong path. It's you and your ilk who are in the 'minority of haters'.
Really? What a lame come back, Black Orchid. Such a silly response. You got it wrong, didn't you? :roll:
You should be called Last Word Brian because no matter how feeble the attempt you always strive to aim for it.
Still unwilling to admit that you read my statement incorrectly? How unsurprising. Tsk, tsk. Such a childish reaction. It costs nothing to admit error, Black Orchid. :roll: :roll:
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Re: Trump and the Wall

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:24 pm

brian ross wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:21 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:55 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:29 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:32 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:19 pm


My god, you have a strange way of reading English...

"Attempt" means what, Black Orchid, in your dictionary? :roll: :roll:
All they are attempting to do is appeal to minority hate groups like yourself and they are clearly on the wrong path. It's you and your ilk who are in the 'minority of haters'.
Really? What a lame come back, Black Orchid. Such a silly response. You got it wrong, didn't you? :roll:
You should be called Last Word Brian because no matter how feeble the attempt you always strive to aim for it.
Still unwilling to admit that you read my statement incorrectly? How unsurprising. Tsk, tsk. Such a childish reaction. It costs nothing to admit error, Black Orchid. :roll: :roll:
If you meant something other than what you typed perhaps you should employ an interpreter!

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Re: Trump and the Wall

Post by Bogan » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:09 pm

Last Word Brian Ross wrote

You mean the people who make up the majority of the population in Australia, Bogan?
Could you clarify that statement please? I think that what you mean is that any person in Australia who does not have any "indigenous" ancestors is a "migrant." If that is what you are saying, then I completely reject that premise. And I find that under section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act that you have offended, insulted, humiliated and intimidated white people by labelling my white settler ancestors with that hateful charge.
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Gee, it is called politics and we are parliamentary democracy, now aren't we?
Importing foreign voters and giving them citizenship in three years so that they can vote in national elections, while political parties propose policies that appeal to their imported voters foreign nationalistic tendencies, could also be considered a corruption of democracy, even treason.
Last Word Brian Ross wrote

So, the ALP is attempting to appeal to the majority of voters, right?
The ALP is attempting to appeal to the majority of foreign born voters and in the process give their own traditional Australian white working class voters, who have always been opposed to very high immigration levels and multiculturalism, a two fingered salute. And then they react in shock when their own traditional voters turn on them.
Last Word Brian Ross wrote

Funny that. You seem to have real problems with being in the minority of haters, don't you?
I have a real problem with a political party which corrupts democracy by importing it's voters from overseas and who could not give a crap about it's own people.
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The Democrats in the US control the Congress. Under the US Constitution, it is Congress that passes money bills. Trump has run until a wall (pun intended) of his own creation. Such a silly man. He, like you seeks to divide not to unite his countrymen.
Trump was elected into office as President of the United States, and his primary election promise to the electors was to build a wall between the USA and Mexico. The Dems in the Congress had previously funded sections of that wall, but their shock of losing the election meant that they would do everything in their power to prevent the President from carrying out his main election promise. My prediction is, that in his next election Trump will win handsomely and those Dems who prevented the will of the majority of US electors from being implemented will pay the price for their obstruction.
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Sorry, you've lost me there. You have no evidence that I hate white people. Stop turning this into your favourite hate session. Tsk, tsk.
I have debated you for at least twenty years and you have never once supported a white European population over any other ethnicity, over anything. You always discriminate against whites. The rule of logic that you always apply in when a conflict of interest occurs between whites and other ethnicities is.

1. White people are always wrong, and other ethnicities are always right.
2. Anything that goes wrong in other ethnicities society is always the fault of white people.
3. Not only are white people always wrong, they are especially wrong if they are Australians, Americans, or Israelis.
4. Whatever injustices occur in white society must be pointed out and savagely attacked. But if other ethnicities societies are riven with the foulest injustices and human rights violations, it is impolite to point these out.
5. The cultures of other ethnicities must be protected, while the cultures of white Europeans, the cultures which everybody is trying to barge into, must be destroyed.
6. White people are always the oppressors, and other ethnicities people are always the victims.

That amounts to self evident racism towards the white race to me, Brian.

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Re: Trump and the Wall

Post by brian ross » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:18 pm

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"Race" is a social construct, Bogan. It has no scientific basis. There are more variations genetically within each so-called "race" than there are between them. Genetically, we all share the same genes. It is what allows humans to interbreed. There is only one "race", the human one and unfortunately, you a member, just as much as I am. I don't single out "races" for special treatment, unlike yourself. I am not a Racist. Racism is based upon superficial physical adaptations to suit a particular environment. It has no bearing on intelligence and no bearing on culture. All it is greater or less degrees of melanin in an individua's skin, or the shape of their eyes, nose, etc. nothing more. :roll:
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Re: Trump and the Wall

Post by Bogan » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:25 am

Brian Ross wrote

"Race" is a social construct, Bogan. It has no scientific basis. There are more variations genetically within each so-called "race" than there are between them. Genetically, we all share the same genes. It is what allows humans to interbreed. There is only one "race", the human one and unfortunately, you a member, just as much as I am. I don't single out "races" for special treatment, unlike yourself. I am not a Racist. Racism is based upon superficial physical adaptations to suit a particular environment. It has no bearing on intelligence and no bearing on culture. All it is greater or less degrees of melanin in an individua's skin, or the shape of their eyes, nose, etc. nothing more.
If race does not exist, Brian, then the white race did not "steal" Australia from the black race. You jut lost one of your favourite grievances.

International Socialists have been trying to prove that everything is equal since International Socialism got off the ground. They said that class does not exist and it is a social construct. But that went a fizzer on account of the fact that those who advocate for the idea that class does not exist are the most class conscious snobs around. Race does not exist, but races always do exist when International Socialists try to blame the white race for the dysfunctions of other races. Cultures are all equal, except that anybody with a half a brain can understand that cultures are not equal. And now the loony left is trying to say that sex does not exist, and it is also supposedly just a social construct. The overwhelming majority of people react to that stupidity with astonishment, and by shaking their heads in pitying wonder.

How is it that you lefties are so blinded by ideology that you can believe in the most stupid ideas? it is exactly like debating with Creationists who might be intelligent in every way, but who have a mind lock when it comes to the Bible saying that the universe was created in six days. The Bible says it is so, so that is that. Never mind what self evident reality reveals.

Leftist ideology says that classes, races, cultures, and sex's are all equal, and that is that. Never mind what self evident reality reveals.

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Re: Trump and the Wall

Post by brian ross » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:51 am

Bogan wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:25 am
Brian Ross wrote

"Race" is a social construct, Bogan. It has no scientific basis. There are more variations genetically within each so-called "race" than there are between them. Genetically, we all share the same genes. It is what allows humans to interbreed. There is only one "race", the human one and unfortunately, you a member, just as much as I am. I don't single out "races" for special treatment, unlike yourself. I am not a Racist. Racism is based upon superficial physical adaptations to suit a particular environment. It has no bearing on intelligence and no bearing on culture. All it is greater or less degrees of melanin in an individua's skin, or the shape of their eyes, nose, etc. nothing more.
If race does not exist, Brian, then the white race did not "steal" Australia from the black race. You jut lost one of your favourite grievances.
You really don't understand the differences between a "social construct" and a "scientific basis" do you, Bogan? Australia was stolen from the people who owned it before the Colonists arrived. The Colonists had constructed a social construct to justify their theft of the land from the Indigenous Australians based on their skin colour. Their skin colour was a superficial matter. It wouldn't have mattered if the Indigenous Australians had been the same colour as the Colonists. The Colonists wanted their land and so took it. :roll:

Scientifically, there was no Genetic difference between the Indigenous and Colonists. Their justification for the theft of Australia was purely based on a Social Construct. :roll:
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Re: Trump and the Wall

Post by Bogan » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:45 pm

Brian Ross wrote

You really don't understand the differences between a "social construct" and a "scientific basis" do you, Bogan?
Well actually, I can. You claim that race is a social construct, therefore "there is only one race, the human race." If there is only one race, then nobody can claim that two races even exist. Therefore, no race can steal anything from another race because they are all the same race.
Brian Ross wrote

Australia was stolen from the people who owned it before the Colonists arrived. The Colonists had constructed a social construct to justify their theft of the land from the Indigenous Australians based on their skin colour. Their skin colour was a superficial matter. It wouldn't have mattered if the Indigenous Australians had been the same colour as the Colonists. The Colonists wanted their land and so took it.
But the fact remains that according to your own absolutist social construct, "there is only one race, the human race", so you can not say that one race stole anything from another race, because they are all the same race.
Brian Ross wrote

Scientifically, there was no Genetic difference between the Indigenous and Colonists. Their justification for the theft of Australia was purely based on a Social Construct.
Scientifically and visually, here is a very obvious genetic difference between indigenous Australians and European Australians because they look completely different. But the fact remains, that according to your own social construct, no race can steal anything from another race, because they are all the same race.

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Re: Trump and the Wall

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Re: Trump and the Wall

Post by Nicole » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:24 pm

Wow! Lots of egg on face in that first video, Bogan :lol:

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