We refuse the UN migration pact

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Valkie
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Re: We refuse the UN migration pact

Post by Valkie » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:29 pm

brian ross wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:50 pm
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Why should I argue further with fantasists like you Valkie (and to a lesser extend Black Orchid)? Run along, I can hear your nurse calling you back. :roll :roll
Defeated yet again.

When bwyannnnnnn has no argument , he starts the old "run along" or "task tsk".

And he starts the personal insults.

But just to rub a little salt into the wounds.

Slavery was practiced and still is practiced by blacks in far more places and with far worse conditions.

Slavery still exists in many African and middle East cultures.

But I know of no white run countries tgat still have slavery.
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Re: We refuse the UN migration pact

Post by sprintcyclist » Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:04 pm

Valkie wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:29 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:50 pm
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Why should I argue further with fantasists like you Valkie (and to a lesser extend Black Orchid)? Run along, I can hear your nurse calling you back. :roll :roll
Defeated yet again.

When bwyannnnnnn has no argument , he starts the old "run along" or "task tsk".

And he starts the personal insults.

But just to rub a little salt into the wounds.

Slavery was practiced and still is practiced by blacks in far more places and with far worse conditions.

Slavery still exists in many African and middle East cultures.

But I know of no white run countries that still have slavery.
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Re: We refuse the UN migration pact

Post by LearJet » Sun May 10, 2020 9:34 am

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-slav ... 4920070322

CHRONOLOGY-Who banned slavery when?

3 Min Read
(Reuters) - Britain marks 200 years on March 25 since it enacted a law banning the trans-Atlantic slave trade, although full abolition of slavery did not follow for another generation.

Following are some key dates in the trans-atlantic trade in slaves from Africa and its abolition.

1444 - First public sale of African slaves in Lagos, Portugal

1482 - Portuguese start building first permanent slave trading post at Elmina, Gold Coast, now Ghana

1510 - First slaves arrive in the Spanish colonies of South America, having travelled via Spain

1518 - First direct shipment of slaves from Africa to the Americas

1777 - State of Vermont, an independent Republic after the American Revolution, becomes first sovereign state to abolish slavery

1780s - Trans-Atlantic slave trade reaches peak

1787 - The Society for the Abolition of the Slave Trade founded in Britain by Granville Sharp and Thomas Clarkson

1792 - Denmark bans import of slaves to its West Indies colonies, although the law only took effect from 1803.

1807 - Britain passes Abolition of the Slave Trade Act, outlawing British Atlantic slave trade.

- United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808.

1811 - Spain abolishes slavery, including in its colonies, though Cuba rejects ban and continues to deal in slaves.

1813 - Sweden bans slave trading

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading

1817 - France bans slave trading, but ban not effective until 1826

1833 - Britain passes Abolition of Slavery Act, ordering gradual abolition of slavery in all British colonies. Plantation owners in the West Indies receive 20 million pounds in compensation

- Great Britain and Spain sign a treaty prohibiting the slave trade

1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator

- Britain places a naval squadron off the West African coast to enforce the ban on slave trading

1823 - Britain’s Anti-Slavery Society formed. Members include William Wilberforce

1846 - Danish governor proclaims emancipation of slaves in Danish West Indies, abolishing slavery

1848 - France abolishes slavery

1851 - Brazil abolishes slave trading

1858 - Portugal abolishes slavery in its colonies, although all slaves are subject to a 20-year apprenticeship

1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies

1862 - U.S. President Abraham Lincoln proclaims emancipation of slaves with effect from January 1, 1863; 13th Amendment of U.S. Constitution follows in 1865 banning slavery

1886 - Slavery is abolished in Cuba

1888 - Brazil abolishes slavery

1926 - League of Nations adopts Slavery Convention abolishing slavery

1948 - United Nations General Assembly adopts Universal Declaration of Human Rights, including article stating “No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.”

Slavery was proclaimed "prohibited" by the UN in 1948, but the UN has no power to make it illegal. Only sovereign Nations have that capability.

The UN is not a Sovereign Nation, nor a governmental agency. It is, in simple terms, a "Club" of Nations. The UN therefore can not make law. The only enforcement capability the UN has is derived from the "Club's" Nations who sign on to the joint UN proclamations, and if a Nation signs on there is no legal binding that it must perform in any legal manner.

In fact, if a member Nation agrees today, and signs on to an agreement, any such Nation is free to withdraw their signature from any such agreement, at any time in the future without legal consequence.

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Re: We refuse the UN migration pact

Post by brian ross » Sun May 10, 2020 4:51 pm

LearJet wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 9:34 am
In fact, if a member Nation agrees today, and signs on to an agreement, any such Nation is free to withdraw their signature from any such agreement, at any time in the future without legal consequence.
Perhaps without legal consequence but there is a moral consequence of doing so. If you're not a signatory, you come for a hell of a lot of criticism. Criticism which has it's own consequences. It is why Australia has not, despite a of calls to, withdrawn from the UN Convention on Refugees, despite also work openly against it. Tsk, tsk. :roll :roll :roll
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Re: We refuse the UN migration pact

Post by Black Orchid » Sun May 10, 2020 5:00 pm

LearJet wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 9:34 am
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-slav ... 4920070322

CHRONOLOGY-Who banned slavery when?

3 Min Read
(Reuters) - Britain marks 200 years on March 25 since it enacted a law banning the trans-Atlantic slave trade, although full abolition of slavery did not follow for another generation.

Following are some key dates in the trans-atlantic trade in slaves from Africa and its abolition.

1444 - First public sale of African slaves in Lagos, Portugal

1482 - Portuguese start building first permanent slave trading post at Elmina, Gold Coast, now Ghana

1510 - First slaves arrive in the Spanish colonies of South America, having travelled via Spain

1518 - First direct shipment of slaves from Africa to the Americas

1777 - State of Vermont, an independent Republic after the American Revolution, becomes first sovereign state to abolish slavery

1780s - Trans-Atlantic slave trade reaches peak

1787 - The Society for the Abolition of the Slave Trade founded in Britain by Granville Sharp and Thomas Clarkson

1792 - Denmark bans import of slaves to its West Indies colonies, although the law only took effect from 1803.

1807 - Britain passes Abolition of the Slave Trade Act, outlawing British Atlantic slave trade.

- United States passes legislation banning the slave trade, effective from start of 1808.

1811 - Spain abolishes slavery, including in its colonies, though Cuba rejects ban and continues to deal in slaves.

1813 - Sweden bans slave trading

1814 - Netherlands bans slave trading

1817 - France bans slave trading, but ban not effective until 1826

1833 - Britain passes Abolition of Slavery Act, ordering gradual abolition of slavery in all British colonies. Plantation owners in the West Indies receive 20 million pounds in compensation

- Great Britain and Spain sign a treaty prohibiting the slave trade

1819 - Portugal abolishes slave trade north of the equator

- Britain places a naval squadron off the West African coast to enforce the ban on slave trading

1823 - Britain’s Anti-Slavery Society formed. Members include William Wilberforce

1846 - Danish governor proclaims emancipation of slaves in Danish West Indies, abolishing slavery

1848 - France abolishes slavery

1851 - Brazil abolishes slave trading

1858 - Portugal abolishes slavery in its colonies, although all slaves are subject to a 20-year apprenticeship

1861 - Netherlands abolishes slavery in Dutch Caribbean colonies

1862 - U.S. President Abraham Lincoln proclaims emancipation of slaves with effect from January 1, 1863; 13th Amendment of U.S. Constitution follows in 1865 banning slavery

1886 - Slavery is abolished in Cuba

1888 - Brazil abolishes slavery

1926 - League of Nations adopts Slavery Convention abolishing slavery

1948 - United Nations General Assembly adopts Universal Declaration of Human Rights, including article stating “No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.”

Slavery was proclaimed "prohibited" by the UN in 1948, but the UN has no power to make it illegal. Only sovereign Nations have that capability.

The UN is not a Sovereign Nation, nor a governmental agency. It is, in simple terms, a "Club" of Nations. The UN therefore can not make law. The only enforcement capability the UN has is derived from the "Club's" Nations who sign on to the joint UN proclamations, and if a Nation signs on there is no legal binding that it must perform in any legal manner.

In fact, if a member Nation agrees today, and signs on to an agreement, any such Nation is free to withdraw their signature from any such agreement, at any time in the future without legal consequence.
Yes, which makes the UN a useless money sucking body and a farce.

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