Population Growth
- boxy
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Re: Population Growth
An economy based on perpetual growth depends on a constant population growth. Fix the underlying problem instead of hating on the inevitable solution.
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- Outlaw Yogi
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Re: Population Growth
The corporate mantra "perpetual growth" ... which of course is impossible in a finite world.
But never fear the commies having destroyed education and perverted history have now infiltrated the corporate sector with activist investors and appointments of dingbats as board members and CEOs. Those in the know are putting their money in private equity and watching the corporate sector collapse/implode on the aspirational suckers. It'll be a slow painful death which can only be hastened by civil war.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?
- Black Orchid
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Re: Population Growth
Incredible aerial photos have revealed the dramatic transformation of land, infrastructure and homes across western Sydney over the past 10 years.
Last week, Australia’s population hit 25 million despite experts previously predicting it was not expected to reach the milestone for a few more decades.
Nearmap executive Shane Preston said with the Australian government planning to invest $2.9 billion over the next 10 years to accommodate the booming population, more and more change can be expected.
The aerial shots, snapped of Sydney’s western suburbs including Box Hill, Parramatta and Penrith, already show the dramatic reduction in land to make room for houses, stadiums and train stations.
A photo of Penrith taken in December 2009 show a barren landscape virtually unrecognisable from today’s scene apart from a sports oval.
The 2014 picture reveals the addition of a few residential properties, a huge car park and some construction.
The most recent image, from April 2018 shows the completed construction and rows of almost identical houses.
Penrith 2009
Penrith 2014
Penrith 2018
The aerial shots of Kellyville and Box Hill over the decade show how creeks were dried up and green fields stripped to make way for construction.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/farmland-thri ... 13505.html
- boxy
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Re: Population Growth
Wanting a constantly growing economy, and then bitching because the new consumers are brown.
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- boxy
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Re: Population Growth
No shit. That's what progress in a perpetual growth economy looks like. It's happening everywhere.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:23 pmIncredible aerial photos have revealed the dramatic transformation of land, infrastructure and homes across western Sydney over the past 10 years.
Last week, Australia’s population hit 25 million despite experts previously predicting it was not expected to reach the milestone for a few more decades.
Nearmap executive Shane Preston said with the Australian government planning to invest $2.9 billion over the next 10 years to accommodate the booming population, more and more change can be expected.
The aerial shots, snapped of Sydney’s western suburbs including Box Hill, Parramatta and Penrith, already show the dramatic reduction in land to make room for houses, stadiums and train stations.
A photo of Penrith taken in December 2009 show a barren landscape virtually unrecognisable from today’s scene apart from a sports oval.
The 2014 picture reveals the addition of a few residential properties, a huge car park and some construction.
The most recent image, from April 2018 shows the completed construction and rows of almost identical houses.
Penrith 2009
Penrith 2014
Penrith 2018
The aerial shots of Kellyville and Box Hill over the decade show how creeks were dried up and green fields stripped to make way for construction.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/farmland-thri ... 13505.html
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- Black Orchid
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Re: Population Growth
Progress implies positive advancement. Much of what is happening in some of our cities is far from positive.
- Rorschach
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Re: Population Growth
The Brahmin class of the Prog Left... and their idiocy re immigration and population numbers must be sent to the abattoir...
Let's stop whispering about migration
By Katharine Betts
25 September 2018 — 12:00am
According to a Herald ReachTel poll, 63 per cent of voters want to restrict Sydney's migrant intake. A poll by The Australian Population Research Institute last year found 54 per cent of voters wanted a reduction in immigration. These are big numbers questioning Australia's migration levels. Politicians, however, are sticking with high growth.
Both the Coalition and Labor parties are bolstered by Treasury’s insistence in boosting aggregate GDP. This is no matter what it costs in the real terms of overdevelopment, congestion and unaffordable housing. And business lobbyists, too, are keen to profit from an ever-growing domestic market.
The major parties ignore voters’ preferences because they can, believing voters have nowhere else to go. They may also be reassured by a dearth of effective public criticism.
Why this dearth? Taking voters’ concerns seriously risks breaching norms of polite discourse established and enforced by the group French economist Thomas Piketty calls the Brahmin class. These are left-leaning intellectuals with clear ideas on what may not be said on questions concerning race which, for many, includes questions about immigration. This acts as a muffler on serious public debate.
The TAPRI survey, which I oversaw, asked voters: "Do you think that people who raise questions about immigration being too high are sometimes thought of as racist?" Sixty-five per cent said "yes", 26 per cent said "no" and 10 per cent said "don’t know".
Those who said "yes" were then asked if this was because such people really were racist. Respondents who agreed made up 20 per cent of the whole sample and were termed "guardians against racism". In contrast, many said that the accusation was "unfair because very few of them are racist". They were 45 per cent of the sample and were termed "the threatened".
Voters who said "no" were "the fearless" while those who said "don’t know" were "the confused".
University graduates were more likely to be guardians, and non-graduates more likely to be threatened.
We then asked: "Have you yourself ever felt uncomfortable about raising questions about immigration, for example with friends or workmates?"
There were five response categories including: "Yes, people can get the wrong idea about you if you do". The threatened were much more likely to chose this response, especially if they were graduates.
This may seem counter-intuitive. But as graduates they are more likely to meet guardians in their daily lives and so more likely to feel at risk. The irony is that even though 26 per cent of graduates were guardians, 37 per cent of graduates were threatened.
Some unsympathetic commentators disparage Brahmins by calling them the "chattering class". Mark Lopez says we should also talk of a "whispering class", well-educated professionals who don’t share all of the Brahmin agenda. But they know that they must keep their voices down or risk opprobrium and exclusion.
The institute study found that 65 per cent of voters are aware of the taboo on criticising immigration and that many are inhibited by it. While non-graduates are more likely to feel the threat, a substantial proportion of graduates are also conscious of it.
Bipartisan support for high migration, backed by a vocal and cashed-up growth lobby, offers few openings for effective dissent. And for a long time this arrangement has been fortified by the Brahmins’ ability to smother criticism within the broader electorate.
But as the polls show, dissent is there and is not confined to less-educated people. Many graduates are unhappy, but so far only a handful are openly opposed.
Taking a strong stand against racism is a core moral principle, and rightly so. The problem lies in automatically equating any criticism of high migration with racism. All this does is feed the growth lobby and stoke growing discontent among the silenced.
We must be able to debate the future of Australia clearly and publicly. Whispering is not enough.
Katharine Betts is adjunct associate professor of sociology at Swinburne University. The results of the TAPRI survey are at tapri.org.au.
Let's stop whispering about migration
By Katharine Betts
25 September 2018 — 12:00am
According to a Herald ReachTel poll, 63 per cent of voters want to restrict Sydney's migrant intake. A poll by The Australian Population Research Institute last year found 54 per cent of voters wanted a reduction in immigration. These are big numbers questioning Australia's migration levels. Politicians, however, are sticking with high growth.
Both the Coalition and Labor parties are bolstered by Treasury’s insistence in boosting aggregate GDP. This is no matter what it costs in the real terms of overdevelopment, congestion and unaffordable housing. And business lobbyists, too, are keen to profit from an ever-growing domestic market.
The major parties ignore voters’ preferences because they can, believing voters have nowhere else to go. They may also be reassured by a dearth of effective public criticism.
Why this dearth? Taking voters’ concerns seriously risks breaching norms of polite discourse established and enforced by the group French economist Thomas Piketty calls the Brahmin class. These are left-leaning intellectuals with clear ideas on what may not be said on questions concerning race which, for many, includes questions about immigration. This acts as a muffler on serious public debate.
The TAPRI survey, which I oversaw, asked voters: "Do you think that people who raise questions about immigration being too high are sometimes thought of as racist?" Sixty-five per cent said "yes", 26 per cent said "no" and 10 per cent said "don’t know".
Those who said "yes" were then asked if this was because such people really were racist. Respondents who agreed made up 20 per cent of the whole sample and were termed "guardians against racism". In contrast, many said that the accusation was "unfair because very few of them are racist". They were 45 per cent of the sample and were termed "the threatened".
Voters who said "no" were "the fearless" while those who said "don’t know" were "the confused".
University graduates were more likely to be guardians, and non-graduates more likely to be threatened.
We then asked: "Have you yourself ever felt uncomfortable about raising questions about immigration, for example with friends or workmates?"
There were five response categories including: "Yes, people can get the wrong idea about you if you do". The threatened were much more likely to chose this response, especially if they were graduates.
This may seem counter-intuitive. But as graduates they are more likely to meet guardians in their daily lives and so more likely to feel at risk. The irony is that even though 26 per cent of graduates were guardians, 37 per cent of graduates were threatened.
Some unsympathetic commentators disparage Brahmins by calling them the "chattering class". Mark Lopez says we should also talk of a "whispering class", well-educated professionals who don’t share all of the Brahmin agenda. But they know that they must keep their voices down or risk opprobrium and exclusion.
The institute study found that 65 per cent of voters are aware of the taboo on criticising immigration and that many are inhibited by it. While non-graduates are more likely to feel the threat, a substantial proportion of graduates are also conscious of it.
Bipartisan support for high migration, backed by a vocal and cashed-up growth lobby, offers few openings for effective dissent. And for a long time this arrangement has been fortified by the Brahmins’ ability to smother criticism within the broader electorate.
But as the polls show, dissent is there and is not confined to less-educated people. Many graduates are unhappy, but so far only a handful are openly opposed.
Taking a strong stand against racism is a core moral principle, and rightly so. The problem lies in automatically equating any criticism of high migration with racism. All this does is feed the growth lobby and stoke growing discontent among the silenced.
We must be able to debate the future of Australia clearly and publicly. Whispering is not enough.
Katharine Betts is adjunct associate professor of sociology at Swinburne University. The results of the TAPRI survey are at tapri.org.au.
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- Rorschach
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Re: Population Growth
You want sensible population debate you listen to TAPRI not that high immigration multiculti mob the Scanlon Foundation that both major parties listen too without having their brains turned on.
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- Neferti
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Re: Population Growth
Immigration is a necessity. However, we should be SELECTIVE.
Oh, and I liked the idea that International Uni Students (whose parents pay large sums) should be sent to country Universities ... not the major cities.
New migrants should be diverted to country areas too.
I remember the Victoria Government had Campbell Soups set up their factory in the country (Shepparton?) so that there was an industry in a regional centre to supply EMPLOYMENT for the locals.
New South Wales and other States could do the same. Then migrants (and the unemployed) have some jobs to apply for. Sydney is FULL but country centres are not, but they need incentive for migrants to move there.
Oh, and I liked the idea that International Uni Students (whose parents pay large sums) should be sent to country Universities ... not the major cities.
New migrants should be diverted to country areas too.
I remember the Victoria Government had Campbell Soups set up their factory in the country (Shepparton?) so that there was an industry in a regional centre to supply EMPLOYMENT for the locals.
New South Wales and other States could do the same. Then migrants (and the unemployed) have some jobs to apply for. Sydney is FULL but country centres are not, but they need incentive for migrants to move there.
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