Petition for PA members to show loyalty.

[Bobby]

All PA members whether they be active posting members or
suspended members should show loyalty to this PA forum.

That would mean:
(1) not using other forums such as Ozpolitic or Monk's place to bag this forum
forcing me to leave this forum and try to explain activities here to posters
who are hostile to this forum and who don't consider my replies -
in other words trolling from other forums.

(2) Posters who are involved in subterfuge such as obtaining screenshots from the secret Sparta forum -
from traitorous members here and posting them at other forums such as Ozpolitic or Monk's place.

(3) All members here are expected to keep PA matters here and not have them as dirty laundry
put out for everyone to view on other forums.
Their ultimate goal should be to do what is right for this PA forum and
not put this place in disrepute from the safety of other forums.
Posters should first discuss any problem with me via PM instead
of starting endless bagging threads on other forums which I notice
are happening every day and every hour.



Penalties.
The penalty for breaking these rules could be a suspension or
an increased term of a current suspension including in severe cases
a permanent banning and even the entire deletion of their profile name and profile
so that their account is closed and could never be reopened.

[Redneck]

I vote Aye !!

[lisa jones]

All PA members whether they be active posting members or
suspended members should show loyalty to this PA forum.

That would mean:
(1) not using other forums such as Ozpolitic or Monk's place to bag this forum
forcing me to leave this forum and try to explain activities here to posters
who are hostile to this forum and who don't consider my replies -
in other words trolling from other forums.

(2) Posters who are involved in subterfuge such as obtaining screenshots from the secret Sparta forum -
from traitorous members here and posting them at other forums such as Ozpolitic or Monk's place.

(3) All members here are expected to keep PA matters here and not have them as dirty laundry
put out for everyone to view on other forums.
Their ultimate goal should be to do what is right for this PA forum and
not put this place in disrepute from the safety of other forums.
Posters should first discuss any problem with me via PM instead
of starting endless bagging threads on other forums which I notice
are happening every day and every hour.



Penalties.
The penalty for breaking these rules could be a suspension or
an increased term of a current suspension including in severe cases
a permanent banning and even the entire deletion of their profile name and profile
so that their account is closed and could never be reopened.

Bobby.

Who the fark gave you that ridiculous petition with over 27 sub sections to post up? Who was it?

What is the colour associated with that id?

Once you've revealed that colour I will then reveal a few things to you about how ridiculous and unworkable that silly petition is. No ... don't worry. I get that you're frightened to death to speak up about that.

At some stage though Bobby ... I will quietly explain why this PA site isn't going to survive much longer.

You have no idea how upset (and disgusted) I am with all this BS.

I've turned up during a global pandemic hoping to find these Ozpol and PA forums aligned and getting on. Instead both forums are struggling and those left in said forums are as hostile as ever.

Hostile against each other.
Hostile against whatever rules are in place.

And then there's this....the bloody use of multi ids to manipulate conversations, petitions and votes.

You heard me. There is no such thing as 1 vote per person here. It's 1 vote per id but some ids are shared or multiple ids. That stuffs up any democratic process which is in place.

The magic no of this forum is now only 4 and that is the very symptom that I immediately noticed which told me that all is not well here. Too much power is concentrated in some 4 ids. Said 4 ids actually represent 3 people.

The system here isn't working and it's been like this for some time.

As if that's not enough now you've been directed by certain coloured ids to introduce a petition with some 27 sub sections to effectively silence a member (active or suspended). Take a closer look at what you've been directed to put up as a petition! You're basically saying members can no longer exercise their right to freedom of speech regarding serious forum abuse issues.

This is Australia Bobby. Last time I heard...freedom of speech was still ok.

I get you're from Victoria and it's like Stalingrad there ... and freedom of speech doesn't exist there now but that's not how the rest of Australia operates.

[Bobby]

dear Lisa,
stop being hysterical.
I take it that your vote is no?

[lisa jones]

dear Lisa,
stop being hysterical.
I take it that your vote is no?

There's no need to resort to gaslighting Bobby.

[Bobby]

dear Lisa,
stop being hysterical.
I take it that your vote is no?

There's no need to resort to gaslighting Bobby.

Hi Lisa,
There was little interest in the last election -
in fact Redneck and I were about equal in votes and he withdrew his nomination
to let me claim EL leadership.
Of course you would have read all that in The Dungeon?

It's good that you're making your claims here instead of Ozpolitic.

[lisa jones]

I'm having a strong coffee and thinking here.

Bobby

Are you trying to tell me this?

Lisa you've no doubt been reading back to see what you missed out on over the past few years by spending hours in the PA basement/dungeon library.

Despite your efforts to catch up...you will never truly grasp what happened because the topics which are filed away do not reflect the full time line of events. Only some parts of certain events. So in effect you're not getting the full picture. It is for this reason that we've all been sitting back watching you struggle for weeks now.

We get that no ban could ever silence you. But please understand...for the love of God...the battles you've missed out on are gone and the battles you're watching right now are not yours to fight. You have no place in them. You've said your (epic sized) piece. We all know how you feel and why. Just enjoy posting. Things here will settle down eventually.

Is this what you've been trying to tell me Bobby??

[Bobby]

I'm having a strong coffee and thinking here.

Bobby

Are you trying to tell me this?

Lisa you've no doubt been reading back to see what you missed out on over the past few years by spending hours in the PA basement/dungeon library.

Despite your efforts to catch up...you will never truly grasp what happened because the topics which are filed away do not reflect the full time line of events. Only some parts of certain events. So in effect you're not getting the full picture. It is for this reason that we've all been sitting back watching you struggle for weeks now.

We get that no ban could ever silence you. But please understand...for the love of God...the battles you've missed out on are gone and the battles you're watching right now are not yours to fight. You have no place in them. You've said your (epic sized) piece. We all know how you feel and why. Just enjoy posting. Things here will settle down eventually.

Is this what you've been trying to tell me Bobby??

Hi Lisa,
I don't think you've read my posts with full comprehension.
I tried to support Aussie when he came back here but he
made it impossible for me.
He found only 4 posts out of 27,000 in Sparta that he didn't like and
I either changed them or deleted them for him immediately.
He had full access to the search feature for a long time and yet
that's all he found.
He became so obnoxious that he received not one vote in his favor
when a poll was created about his tenure here.
I tried very hard to keep everyone happy.
I listened to them and whenever evidence was presented
I acted straight away to fix any problem or
explained why I couldn't as clearly as possible.
I am still the same today.
What we need here are more members not posts on other forums
discouraging members from other forums from joining.
If Aussie became a probationary member here
would he stop his hourly attacks from other forums?

So far I have found his excuses for the following charges unacceptable:

Charge 1:
Being knowingly concerned with the publication
of a screenshot that falsely impugned the reputation of Lisa using forgery.

Charge 2:
breaking the rules of Sparta while being a suspended member.

[Bobby]

Aussie replied,
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1636494899

Aussie,

Yer a total cock head! You don't want the sewer discussed other than at the sewer and yet,
there YOU are, bringing it here to be discussed.

How many doxxing posts did I miss Bubby? You doxxed me, Black Orchid did.
Undeniable. On one matter, I had to suggest maybe I ought refer it to FD. Only then did you get off your lazy stupid arse.

Where is your evidence of forgery?


You do it. So, anyone can. Further, I am not a suspended Member. I am banned permanently.


No-one is going back there as a probationary Member, Bubby. Get that through your thick head.

He can't spell my name. LOL

[lisa jones]

Well I'm glad I've been too busy to be online today.

• OzPol looks like a brothel.
• PA looks like a cemetery.

Awesome work Freediver and all relevant GMods. Well bloody done!