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Re: Buhurt medieval violence

Post by tllwd » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:54 am

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:30 pm
I saw this elsewhere but haven't watched it yet.

The True Origins of the Medieval Knight.
Good video, BO, accurate and to the point.
It may be added that Roman equite (horseman) was a social bridge between aristocratic patricians and plebeians who managed to accommodate enough wealth, sort of middle class in modern terms.
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Re: Buhurt medieval violence

Post by tllwd » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:57 am

Jasin wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:07 pm
What was once a Sword
Is now a Scalpel.

...the projectile weapon is of another.
Depends on an operator. Some have skill to use axe as a precision tool while others use scalpel as a crowbar.

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Re: Buhurt medieval violence

Post by Jasin » Tue Jan 14, 2025 4:39 pm

It's an often quoted saying that's been around for a long time.
The Sword representing the hand to hand (physical) warfare of Medi Eval.
Morphing or evolving into the Scalpel of the Medi Good. Or even the Chef's Knife for culinary.

Considering the Projectile weapon as being a non physical and detached for of warfare. From an Arrow to a Nuke? Fired from a safer position of anonymity far away.

It's obvious that modern projectile weaponry is the superior form of combat, over the very rare now hand to hand exchanges. Even bayonet charges and fighting seems obsolete.

So the blade can kill, but it can also save lives.
Can the projectile weapon have a good side of being used to save a life? At the most, I only see the sedative darts Conservationists use on animals from a safe distance as a positive life giving rather than life taking instrument.

Maybe that's the go? Just dart the nasty people to sleep, rather than kill them outright? The Snoozer Wars of the future 🥱🤪

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Re: Buhurt medieval violence

Post by Jasin » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:15 pm

In regards to the Ukrainian soldier v the Mongol Russian soldier in that hand to hand fight.

I would say that intimidation is the first step towards overpowering the enemy.
Fear is the mind killer.
Secondly, that Ukrainian moved forward with no contingency plan at all.
Theongol Russian was most likely a stronger man of the wild, compared to the city boy Ukrainian.

I wouldn't have moved towards the Russian.
I would have moved to a position that allowed optimal view of the area and waited for the Russian to manoeuvre into my line of sight and fire, when he felt desperate to move to another position.

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Re: Buhurt medieval violence

Post by tllwd » Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:45 pm

Jasin wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:15 pm
In regards to the Ukrainian soldier v the Mongol Russian soldier in that hand to hand fight.

I would say that intimidation is the first step towards overpowering the enemy.
Fear is the mind killer.
Secondly, that Ukrainian moved forward with no contingency plan at all.
Theongol Russian was most likely a stronger man of the wild, compared to the city boy Ukrainian.

I wouldn't have moved towards the Russian.
I would have moved to a position that allowed optimal view of the area and waited for the Russian to manoeuvre into my line of sight and fire, when he felt desperate to move to another position.
36-year-old Andrey Grigoryev is ethnic Yakut not Mongol and he is not professional hunter but an auto mechanic in civil life.
Interesting detail: both Ukrainian and Yakut scream and swear in Russian during the fight.
Andrey is 75kg Ukrainian is over 100kg and much larger, his arm is about 10cm longer, you can see it on video when they are trying to strangle each other.

It starts when Ukrainian soldier controls the entrance to the courtyard of a house, then retreats before an FPV drone strikes a suspected Russian. After the UAV strike, the Ukrainian returns, enters the courtyard and a close-range shooting fight ensues, which turns into hand-to-hand combat. Andrey was not intimidated by aerial and ground attacks and his wounds but instead reverted to basic instincts of a man fighting for his life.

BTW, banderites pride themselves on knives skill and like to boast how they slash Russian throats without video evidence except when they killed prisoners.

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Re: Buhurt medieval violence

Post by Jasin » Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:02 pm

Well I'm glad you worked all that out.
It mostly looked like blurred warm fuzzies between the two
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Re: Buhurt medieval violence

Post by tllwd » Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:32 pm

As I said before there are unblurred video versions of Ukrainian body camera and also video from a drone plus few interviews with the survivor.

Anyhow, I brought this case to compare Reality and Entertainment no matter how real it looks.

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medieval girls violence

Post by tllwd » Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:40 pm



More technique then force.

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food for medieval violence

Post by tllwd » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:02 pm

Recipes from practical food historian Max Miller.


Recipe from Battle of the Nations tournament.
For the beginning, I took about 5kg of fresh onions, cooked them on slow fire with garlic, olive oil and butter for an hour, and for that time, prepared the veggies. For the most part, it’s carrots, paprika, potatoes, pees, and everything seasonal at that moment, and add mushrooms if you have some of these ingredients, they are not historically accurate, thou.

For the meat, chop it up in little cubes, add salt and a lot of pepper and little honez(?) for the seasoning, and roast it for a couple of minutes inside the pan, just to form a little crust and flavor in general. When onion is glass like, add meat, and enough water. After a while add veggies. After 3+ hours it should be done. For the last 10 minutes, add seasoning like basil and thyme.
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Re: Buhurt medieval violence

Post by Jasin » Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:24 am

Reckon it would taste pretty bland.

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