Does the world need to regulate whaling

[HIGHERBEAM]

Do the traditional whaling nations of the world need regulating

1/ I think we should allow the traditional whaling nations of this world to use traditional means to trap and kill whales but they must not use mechanised means at all but only the same means of their ancestors used and only for the consumption of the people doing the catching

2/ If we dont allow these whaling nations to carry on their traditions,are we not saying to all nations that they must stop using their traditional language because more people speak english( example only )so they must conform with the rest of the world and their so called values

3/ Do we not become void of any traditions if we impose western ideals on any nation doing something different from the norm,what a sterile place this world would become,do we not end up like a sci-fi movie Soilant Green where we grind down our old folk into edible biscuits because of lack of space and waste not want not

[Super Nova]

The world is under constant change. Keeping traditions for the sake of preservation is a nice to have in today’s world. There are many traditions that should not be continued in today’s world. For example:
- Female circumcision.
- Forced marriages of women
- Homosexual criminalisation
- …etc

Traditions that do not have an adverse effect on other humans or the planet that are more cultural may have an argument for preservation to keep human cultural diversity. This is a good thing.

Using a tradition as a guise to kill endangered species, particularly one of the most intelligent higher life forms on the planet is just out of order. This would opne the door for an industrialised cottage industry to exploit a rare resource. It would drive up the value of whale meat, more people will start hunting them under the pretence it is a traditional act. Not policable.

Let’s look at it this way. It was always my tradition to sprinkle Rino horn powder on my weatbix to make me a real man with the ladies. Your argument when extended would allow we to kill Rinos. No change… don’t buy the argument.

It is a global world today, we need global rules that apply to all. No exceptions.

[TomB]

I think we should allow the traditional whaling nations of this world to use traditional means to trap and kill whales but they must not use mechanised means at all but only the same means of their ancestors used

How barbaric! I'd prefer that if they do it all that at least it be done as quickly and humanely as possible and that means with a high velocity harpoon and explosive tip.

[Super Nova]

How barbaric! I'd prefer that if they do it all that at least it be done as quickly and humanely as possible and that means with a high velocity harpoon and explosive tip.

A human view point. If your dead your dead. If it took 1 second or an hour. You are lost to the world and someone will exploit the resource of your body without the survival need to use it for food. It is a specialty dish for those who can pay. That is a barbaric act.

[boxy]

Are you fucking kidding?

If you've gotta kill, do it as quick and painlessly as possible.

[boxy]

Do we need to regulate whaling?

No... not if we don't care if they go extinct.

However, if we do care... yes we do. Some species should be allowed to be harvested, others should be totally banned.

That's why both pro-whalers and the arseclown "sea-shepard" fluffy bunnies are wrongheaded jerks, only out for their own personal interests.

[Outlaw Yogi]

With oceans becoming increasingly acidic as they absorb CO2 from our pollution pumped atmosphere, it'll be a wonder if there'll be enough plankton to feed them.

And then there's ...
Apocalypse in the Oceans
http://www.alternet.org/environment/86789/

[HIGHERBEAM]

Non-governmental organizations who are against commercial and research whaling basically acknowledged the rights of the ASW, “as long as:
(i) the hunted whale populations are not endangered and (
ii) precautionary monitoring and management measures are in place (Lankester, 1999).” For instance, Greenpeace argues the reason they are against whaling is because of these three points: the stock of each whale has not yet recovered from over-harvesting of whales in the last century, the Antarctic Ocean is preserved as the world’s whale sanctuary, and scientific research should continue not to kill whales.

ASW Aboriginal subststance whaling

After the moratorium, the Japanese local whaling was continued in four local communities who changied their strategy to focus outside the IWC’s jurisdiction on whales. Under the control of the Japanese Ministry of Fisheries, they can hunt about 170 whales a year. The whalers’ communities in these four regions organized the Japanese Small-Type Coastal Whaling Association. They claim that traditionally they had been hunting minke whales, but now they have to follow the international rule which does not allow them to hunt the minke whales even though the IWC Scientific Research Committee recognizes the stock of the minke whales are not endangered. The association changes its name to the ‘Yamato Peoples Subsistence Whaling’ when they go to overseas conferences. One of the main counterarguments of their logic for hunting whales is that minke whales are eating many small fish from the coast of Japan, and thus fishermen hope to thin minkes to keep a healthy balance in its coastal marine ecosystem. This is based on the logic drawn from ‘Competition for food in the ocean: Man and other apical predators.’ They fundamentally demand lifting of the moratorium on whaling, and also demand preservation of cultural diversity.

[Swami Dring]

People beholden to tradition are simpletons.

Here is how tradition becomes ensconced in the brane of the tard:

**did it yesterday............................still alive today....................hmmmmmmmmm.......................maybe I better just do it again tomorrow**

Absolute caveman/religiotard logic.

[freediver]

I think we should allow the traditional whaling nations of this world to use traditional means to trap and kill whales but they must not use mechanised means at all but only the same means of their ancestors used and only for the consumption of the people doing the catching

Would you be happy if the Japanese insisted you only eat food you have raised and dressed yourself?