Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou Mr Rudd

[Rainbow Moonlight]

I have been struggling ever since Howard brought in the stupid laws which meant I no longer got sufficient child support from my husband. Recently has been a lot worse as he also stops paying once my daughter is 18 and even more recently we have had her new husband from overseas living with us too, and he is nto allowed to work here yet. Lot of cost in a wedding and a visa application- although the visa application was paid for on my husband's credit card.

I am just so grateful for this money. My son's car insurance payment has been rejected twice for which there is an enormous bank fee. The car needs fixing and tyres.

[Hebe]

So have you got your dough RM? Looks like you'll be kickstarting the economy all on your own.

[Rainbow Moonlight]

Yes got some of it today. Might be getting a bit more in another fortnight because my son's youth allowance usually comes on a Tuesday. My daughter will get her own later still but it will be used to help repay the amount off my husband's credit card for her husband's visa applciation. The application fee seems enormous- 2100 dollars and something.

[Jovial Monk]

Seems a lot of first home buyers are also thanking Mr Rudd. While not rescuing the whole real estate scene it is keeping builders busy and allowing house prices to come down slowly rather than in a panic-making rush.

[mantra.]

Didn't all kids under 18 get a $1,000 at Xmas - and then they get another $950 this month. I know a woman who's husband is on a hefty income, but at Xmas even though she only has 3 children under 18 - got 4 lots of $1,000. She thought it was a great lark. If she was overpaid - how many others are?

Why are people getting it twice - even 3 times?

How are we going to pay all this money back as the budget plunges $30 billion into deficit and in a few months - another $20 billion. How deeply will this government be in debt by the time the next election rolls around?

[Jovial Monk]

The debt will be repaid as the economy recovers and the middle-upper class welfare is removed etc. It won't be our kids or grandkids--don't believe anything Sheepy tells you on the WWWPA for god's sake.

[Jubial Priest]

The debt will be repaid as the economy recovers and the middle-upper class welfare is removed etc. It won't be our kids or grandkids--don't believe anything Sheepy tells you on the WWWPA for god's sake.

Are you kidding? Of course it will be our kids and grandkids. This debt will take decades to pay off.

We have an aging population and one that our 'kids and grandkids' will struggle to support even in the best of times let alone with an idiot and Labor sanctioned interest repayment.

You truly are retarded Monk

[mantra.]

The debt will be repaid as the economy recovers and the middle-upper class welfare is removed etc. It won't be our kids or grandkids--don't believe anything Sheepy tells you on the WWWPA for god's sake.

Are you serious Monk? I don't need DT to tell me that Rudd is stuffing up. I knew he was an idiot within a few months after he came to power. He indicated to all of us that he was a conservative and many of us assumed he would introduce means testing, cap middle class welfare and invest in alternative energy and create jobs.

He's done none of that - just managed to waste $20-$30 billion on porkbarrelling and continued with the exorbitant unaudited funding to private schools etc and if you believe that he's going to get the cash back from the rich - you're mistaken. Those who have children will pay for this and the rest of us will pay for it in reduced health care as we get older. By the time some of us are of pension age - we will be selling our homes to survive - there will be nothing left for the aged.

Can't you see what's happening?

[Jovial Monk]

No, there is so much waste in "tax expenditure" that there is enormous scope for improving tax receipts. "Tax expenditures" are generally below the surface issues, unlike general or capital expenditures, but there is a HUGE amount of savings to be made. $11,000 super subsidy for millionaires, other millionaires receiving the old age pension, a huge churn of tax money paid then returned as child care subsidies and soooooo muuuuuuuch moooooore after nearly 12 years of the worst Treasurer and PM.

Rudd is not porkbarreling--next election still 2 years or so away, just Keynseyan pump priming and doing so rather well. Within 10 years of recovery the debt will be gone, gone even if we don't get the same sort of mining boom we had 2001-2007.

[mantra.]

No, there is so much waste in "tax expenditure" that there is enormous scope for improving tax receipts. "Tax expenditures" are generally below the surface issues, unlike general or capital expenditures, but there is a HUGE amount of savings to be made. $11,000 super subsidy for millionaires, other millionaires receiving the old age pension, a huge churn of tax money paid then returned as child care subsidies and soooooo muuuuuuuch moooooore after nearly 12 years of the worst Treasurer and PM.

Rudd is not porkbarreling--next election still 2 years or so away, just Keynseyan pump priming and doing so rather well. Within 10 years of recovery the debt will be gone, gone even if we don't get the same sort of mining boom we had 2001-2007.

I doubt the next election is 2 years away. I heard that Rudd could call one at the end of this year or early next year - although this could be wrong. Weren't you complaining the other day about millionaires receiving an $11,000 tax subsidy - how is that taxing the wealthy?

Many of us were unhappy with some of Howard's schemes for the rich and it did create division - but Rudd is going about this the wrong way. He should have been strong at the beginning and introduced means testing - but he didn't have the guts. He still hasn't had private schools audited and many of them are ripping us off - same as the job network which is another rort, not to mention all these scam agencies set up to bring foreign "students" here. Howard allowed them to flourish in this "free" market - but Rudd is exacerbating the problem by doing nothing.

What government has ever thrown so much cash at people for nothing. Howard did it with the baby bonus, and all these family payments and did you know that now you can still get this "immunisation" payment of $200 plus for not immunising your child as long as you lodge a conscientious objection with medicare.

Something is seriously wrong. It's as though Australia now is just going to be downgraded to a third world country and there's nothing we can do about it. I thought Howard was bad - but Rudd is worse - because he's gutless.