Access Economics approves the commercial building fund

[Jovial Monk]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... ion=justin

Have a read.

Access Economics were the firm that showed that all Tip's 'surplus' budgets were actually structurally in deficit.

[Rainbow Moonlight]

Thanks JM. I had missed this response. Good to see it.

[White Indigene]

It means nothing other then obfuscation.

Labor asked for 4% underlying, and thats what we got. They wanted you Lefties to think it was all the Libs fault, thus you will continie to love Labor. Even as the country sinks in to a Depression, you will look for ways to extoll your political captors. The IMF today tells us we are RS, and will be for some time (even untill dopey Labor gets the bullet), after which the previous cycle which you appear to despise, will be repeated, because that is what is being engineered.

Lets face it, the Government -thus the country- is now doomed to twenty years of poverty. Printing more money will help a little, as will tax cuts (if we get em), but overall, we are now caught in surfdom, and Labor is quite willing to allow this to occur. Mind you, it will doing nothing for GHG, which is where the problem lies, and explains why Labor wanted 4%, and the loss of heaps of jobs, manufacture, production an so-on.

If either of yous are Labor experts, perhaps you could explain the bit where Labor councilled us all in the lead up to the election about trade defecit/surplus. Where is its relevance now?, for example; or, what is the benefit of having enourmous amounts of stock sitting on the docks (other than giving Unions Inc/Mafia something to flogg); how will Aulsund now produce salvationist surplus now?

Anyone?

[Jovial Monk]

Trade surpluses started happening under Rudd.

For the rest, I really don't know what wonderful, drug induced, conspiracy theories you maundered on about.

[White Indigene]

Your response is inconsequential and says nothing JM.

This on the other hand says it all>
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... -7s8o.html

"The coalition's call for immediate tax cuts to stimulate the economy has been "directly contradicted" by an International Monetary Fund (IMF) report released overnight, federal Treasurer Wayne Swan says."

If we look at the state of the economy now, under Labor, I would argue that the Liberals were right to ignore the IMF as often as they did. The ALP is just playing politics, even as we are singking big time, and that you cannot deny JM. As I stated above JM, Australia is being locked in to twenty years of debt. That means that as I said days ago were on the cusp of something great, but it is now denied us. Labor, on the other hand couldnt give a shite about that. Their priority is Unions Inc, the dictatorship of the BBGen, a fifteen million population, a thiefs republic, and their secret wealth building facilities.

Evryone who doesnt fly the ALP flagg will trotted in to the economic wastelands, and dealt horrible blows.

The ALP is the one that needs a solution, not the Australian citizenry.

[Jovial Monk]

Unions have no say in todays ALP.

Change has come and left you behind WI, well behind, a marine creature stranded wwwaaayyyyyyy beyond the high tide mark.

A recession is raging overseas. So far Australia has had it fairly easy but unemployment is rising. The Labor government, in total contrast to the last mob, listens to Treasury, the RBA and so on.

Interest rates can fall further, putting more money in peoples pockets, pockets already bulging with saving on petrol and previous rate cuts. We have had not a single bank fail, unlike US/UK/Europe etc.

Now, tax cuts give a very low bang for the buck spending-wise, unless it is giving to those on the lowest incomes who have no choice but to spend it. The bonus is still keeping retails sales--and so jobs--up. The commercial property fund will, if needed, safeguard 50K jobs, with the multiplier effect that means it is saving a lot more than 50K jobs. The RBA gave its approval for that.

The previous government did nothing for infrastructure, let education and universities decay, same with public health etc etc. They only looked good because of the mining boom, and they pissed up the proceeds of that mining boom up against the wall buying elections.

[White Indigene]

Fantasy.

The only bit youve got correct is no banks falling over. Yet.

And what about the lean towards tarrifs?

This would have been a good thing to do before the horse bolts, but it is being considered. I dont know yet whethre the ALP will want to go down that raod, but you can bet the cranks in the politburo will be advising it now. So we can be returned to a 'string basket economy'; something which was proffered here and denied in the same breath by fellow ALP traveller.

Now, yous all seek to deny your roots, root the economy whilst your all there, and get stuffed apirational Australia. There will be no net effect on GW/CC. The very proponents of ALP lifestyle, are the ones who have all lived, and will continue to live the high political life, as we, the ants, will be made work for their WelOffness, and to dig dirt for China.

Only an imbesile would apoligise for a Government who bring this in the lounges of Australia.

And you carp about what, how did you mean to say> "safeguad 50k jobs". Are you for real JM. Today is a flow on from yesterday, not a brand new day with no previous history.

You seek to imbue you listener/viewer (your mirror indeed) with the concept of applied dialectic deficit disorder. You attempt to support Labors new language of > 'oh, we have saved all the workers some 50k jobs'.

Wombat.

The real argument is> unemployenmt in the Howard years was xx%, wheras, under Labors demolition regime, it is now yyyy% .

Thats what you really should have suggested JM; apoligising for the crooks, while they are robbing you of your n'hood and future, realy is a sign of a sick society capitavated by Stockholm Syndrome.

[Jovial Monk]

You made a joke! Wow! Usually you are a boring as well as baffling conspiracy theorist.

dialectic deficit disorder

If you followed the news instead of pixie dust you would have seen/heard that China has fallen in a heap and is no longer importing our dirt, our iron/aluminium/nickel and what have you. Doubt India that active either.

But fanatasy land is more soooooothing I suppose.

Tariffs, there is no move to increase tariffs! When a country cuts its tariffs that country is the biggest beneficiary!

[White Indigene]

If I was PM I would have introduced Tarrifs months ago, to stop the leaching.

Centrigual forces prevail now, the spinoffs spread wide to a captive audience, and harboured by the best in WellTodooness folk.

Expect the unexpected next. Stir fried economies, furnaced, furnished by the cult of the CC freaks.

WOT

[White Indigene]

If you search tarrifs in Google News, it goes to energy tarrifs.

Compare this debate with the actions of the GAZPROM in Europe, and you will see the change from free supply, to demographic balckmail & ransom.

It has preliminary roots in the Health sector in NSW, the genesis for the crisis of Sydney winter, 09.

History will reveal.