Julia Gillard, PM

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Jovial Monk

Julia Gillard, PM

Post by Jovial Monk » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:01 am

The glorious Julia has already boosted Labor's stocks with the last Newspoll showing Labor 53:47. As the hurt some people feel about Rudd being deposed fades that should go up by another percent, so 54:46 just by Julia taking over. Not only has the latest Newspoll risen by 1% but the firmness of Labor's support has risen, with Greens/Others votes declining sharply. Rudd's last Newspoll result of 52:48 was based on shaky assumptions re Greens/Others preference flows and may well have been 49:51.

A revised Resources Rent Tax will be announced very shortly with a deal on the coal seem gas about to be announced. That should add another percent.

Then too Julia has taken onboard concerns about population growth and the need to put a price on carbon, so the latest Newspoll is not just a spike in support for a new PM.

The Greens are heading for a decline if Julia keeps going and about time too: Greens were letting concern for their party override their concern for the environment. I hope Julia sidelines them.

Jovial Monk

Re: Julia Gillard, PM

Post by Jovial Monk » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:28 am

Oh dear, and Robb is the only one on coalition front or back benches to have any economics training:
Opposition finance spokesman Andrew Robb said projected combined surpluses of $6.4 billion in 2010-11 Budget years three and four unambiguously depended on $12 billion in mining tax revenue.

He said Treasurer Wayne Swan's "absurd" claim at the G20 Summit that the Federal Budget did not hinge on mining tax confirmed the budget was a "house of cards". Claims the budget would return to surplus in three years could not be believed, he said.

"If the mining tax revenue is not there the budget collapses, major programs will need to be slashed and Wayne Swan's reputation will be in tatters," he said.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/busine ... 5884858285

Of course, idiot Robb thinks you can oppose or rescind the RRT then claim as savings not cutting the company tax etc. If I was a diehard lib I would slit my wrists I think.

In fact, of course, the revenue from the RTT has been allocated to specific measures, chief among them cutting company tax to 28%.

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Re: Julia Gillard, PM

Post by mantra » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:31 am

The Greens are heading for a decline if Julia keeps going and about time too: Greens were letting concern for their party override their concern for the environment. I hope Julia sidelines them.
She'd be stupid if she did. Labor still needs them. If the Greens started playing party politics, that's because they had no other choice. You can't get anywhere in politics playing Mr. Nice Guy.

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Re: Julia Gillard, PM

Post by IQSRLOW » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:34 am

With a honeymoon period you would think the bounce would be far more significant but we all know dead cats don't bounce and the Labor party is a very dead cat. A change of one face and the bailling out of Tanner has seen the party reinvent itself as the same old same old

If they were unable to implement a successful scheme before, nothing has really changed has it?

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Re: Julia Gillard, PM

Post by skippy. » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:08 pm

With a honeymoon period you would think the bounce would be far more significant
LOL, the flogging Abbott will get not significant enough,lol :D

Jovial Monk

Re: Julia Gillard, PM

Post by Jovial Monk » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:28 pm

vedanta wrote:
The Greens are heading for a decline if Julia keeps going and about time too: Greens were letting concern for their party override their concern for the environment. I hope Julia sidelines them.
She'd be stupid if she did. Labor still needs them. If the Greens started playing party politics, that's because they had no other choice. You can't get anywhere in politics playing Mr. Nice Guy.
No. the Greens voted against any action on climate change because if they voted for it that would remove their reason for existing. They made a big mistake forming a party IMHO, they would have been better off staying out of parliament and lobbying for action via conservation groups etc. In Parliament their hard line, non-accommodating stance will sideline them on most issues, like the CPRS. even if the Greens get the balance of power in the next Senate they will be frozen out of negotiations if they keep going as they have.

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Re: Julia Gillard, PM

Post by Jovial Monk » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:32 pm

skippy. wrote:
With a honeymoon period you would think the bounce would be far more significant
LOL, the flogging Abbott will get not significant enough,lol :D
Yup, and the Fibs are leaving it rather late to change leaders, given that an August election is most likely, that or very early October (Sep has football and no one is brave enough to make the bogans vote when the finals are on then Nov has a Vic state election and after that you get school holidays etc and it gets messy. So, late Aug or early October are most likely.)

You would think a lot of Fib/Nuts MPs and candidates would be wearing brown underpants until after the election.

Jovial Monk

Re: Julia Gillard, PM

Post by Jovial Monk » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:36 pm

skippy. wrote:
With a honeymoon period you would think the bounce would be far more significant
LOL, the flogging Abbott will get not significant enough,lol :D
Hmmm looks like IQ made a typically moronic comment? The significance of the last few polls is the firming up of the Labor support, much more important than a nominal 1% increase. Geez, kindergarten kids would understand that! But with resolution of the RRT, in a way I think the big miners won't like, the amount of support will increase. Then mumble something about a price on carbon and action on boat people and left and right will climb aboard HMS Gillard. PolSci 101.

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Re: Julia Gillard, PM

Post by punk pretending to be skippy » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:56 pm

Jovial Monk wrote:
skippy. wrote:
With a honeymoon period you would think the bounce would be far more significant
LOL, the flogging Abbott will get not significant enough,lol :D
Yup, and the Fibs are leaving it rather late to change leaders, given that an August election is most likely, that or very early October (Sep has football and no one is brave enough to make the bogans vote when the finals are on then Nov has a Vic state election and after that you get school holidays etc and it gets messy. So, late Aug or early October are most likely.)

You would think a lot of Fib/Nuts MPs and candidates would be wearing brown underpants until after the election.
Dont you think people can change their minds

The polls to watch are the ones in the six weeks prior to an election

skippy.

Re: Julia Gillard, PM

Post by skippy. » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:02 pm

The polls to watch are the ones in the six weeks prior to an electionskippy,
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LOL it is six weeks before an election, you just dont know it yet.

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