Armidale here we come!!!!

[Juliar]

Is this transplanting of Public Servants to Armidale a result of Tony Windsor's lobbying ?

You all recall Tony Windsor was the type who inflicted the worst Socialist govt on Australia in Australia's history. Even worse than the deplorable FABIAN Socialist Whitlam.

The Socialist public servants in Canberra are squealing like all Hell.




Armidale move all about jobs and growth: Prime Minister
Noel Towell JANUARY 5 2017 - 12:15AM

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has invoked his 'jobs and growth' slogan to justify his government's forced relocation of about 200 Canberra public servants to northern NSW.

Mr Turnbull's deputy and Agriculture Minister Barnaby Joyce has been heavily criticised and accused of "blatant pork barrelling" over his plant to move the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority to Armidale, in the heart of Mr Joyce's New England electorate.


Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says relocating 200 Canberra public servants to northern NSW is about jobs and growth. Photo: Steven Siewert

But in a letter to Canberra MP Gai Brodtmann, Mr Turnbull said the plan was about jobs and growth in regional Australia.

"The government is relocating the APVMA as part of its commitment to boost jobs, increase growth and strengthen communities in regional areas," the Prime Minister wrote.


Not impressed: Member for Canberra Gai Brodtmann. Photo: Jamila Toderas

"We are ensuring the relocation has minimal disruption to the agency and its staff and families.

"Canberra based staff concerned about moving to Armidale will be supported by a transition team and an advisory committees to oversee the relocation."

Ms Brodtmann was not too impressed by the Prime Minister's letter particularly the way she said he ignored the cost-benefit analysis, that cost taxpayers more than $270,000, and which found the move would cost more jobs in Canberra than it would create in Armidale.

"Based on the evidence the Prime Minister paid $272,000 to ignore, the relocation of the APVMA to Barnaby Joyce's electorate will cost more jobs than it creates," the Canberra MP said on Wednesday.

"It shows taking jobs from one place and shifting them to another isn't a recipe for "jobs and growth".

"It shows the relocation will cost the Australian taxpayer $25 million and the Canberra economy $157 million a year.

"It is unequivocal and it is damning.

"To say there were "other considerations" behind the approval other than the analysis itself is to say that there's something more important than what is good for the economy, the industry or the community – what's good for Barnaby."

http://www.smh.com.au/national/public-s ... tlttp.html

[Juliar]

Maybe Tony Windsor might be able to get a job with the relocated to Armidale Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority ?

Geez the affected pub servs are whinging about it.

Barny's relocation is decentralization happening. It's a good move as the cities are bursting at the seams as all the legal immigrants settle there.

The full steam NBN is up there as Tony Windsor bullied Juliar to get the NBN extended to Armidale.





Armidale move could cost APVMA public servants $100,000
Noel Towell JANUARY 5 2017 - 12:15AM

Public servants at the national pesticides authority in Canberra say they could be left up to $100,000 out-of-pocket if they go with their employers's forced relocation to northern NSW.

About 200 workers at the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority have been looking at their options since Agriculture Minister Barnaby Joyce announced he would force the agency to move to the heart of his New England electorate.


Agriculture Minister Barnaby Joyce. Photo: Bradley Kanaris

Fairfax revealed last week that APVMA bosses were considering rewarding workers who agreed to make the move with pay rises worth 15 per cent and up to 12 flights a year.

But public servants at the authority are worried that selling packing up and leaving their lives and homes in Canberra could leave their families up to $100,000 worse-off.

APVMA workers also worry their partners could face unemployment if they give up their jobs in Canberra to move to the regional town.

The agency says the relocation compensation package is still a draft and yet to be finalised and that there will be work for its employees in Canberra right up to 2019 so they have plenty of time to make plans for their families.

The APVMA also says it had done well hiring much-needed new staff despite the looming move to northern NSW, recruiting more than 50 workers, including 15 regulatory scientists, since July.

Despite the relocation packages under consideration, APVMA workers are worried it will not be enough, especially those who have to sell their Canberra homes and start again in Armidale.

"Staff have been advised that the costs associated with the sale of their house in Canberra and purchase in Armidale," one source told Fairfax. 

"Agents' commissions and stamp duty etc will not be reimbursed, leaving most staff around $50,000 out of pocket immediately.

"The package also fails to adequately cover removal costs and does not even consider the loss of jobs for partners or increased schooling costs for children needing to finish courses in Canberra.

"The all up costs staff will be expected to meet will in most cases be around $100,000."

But an authority spokeswoman said it was too early to say what the final shape of the relocation packages might be.

"The APVMA has provided the draft relocation and retention policies to staff for consultation and to ensure staff can begin to get the information they need to make an informed decision about their future with the APVMA," she said.

"As the APVMA is currently in negotiation with staff on these policies it is premature to discuss the details.

"The intention of both policies is to encourage staff to remain with the APVMA and to make the transition to Armidale.

"The APVMA will still be operating out of Canberra until 2019 so there is still quite some time for staff to consider their options."

The spokeswoman said the relocation and retention policy would be paid out of the $25.6m "funding envelop" identified in the cost-benefit-analysis of the plan.

She also said recruitment had continued despite the news of the unpopular move.

"Between 1 July 2016 and 15 December 2016 37 staff have left the APVMA, including 16 regulatory scientists," the spokeswoman said.

The APVMA has conducted a proactive recruitment campaign to fill jobs that became available prior to and after 1 July.

"From 1 July, 52 staff commenced with the APVMA.

"Of these, 15 were regulatory scientists."

http://www.smh.com.au/national/public-s ... tko9q.html

[cods]

it would make sense to me.. if they were NEW jobs for people who are not currently employed by the govt...

thats my idea of GROWTH..

this mish mash of placing govt dept here there and everywhere never last for long does it?

[Rorschach]

Decentralisation is a good idea.
Moving authorities etc closer to places they affect or are related to, is also a good idea.

An Air Freight Hub at Parkes would be a good idea. More cities away from the coast would be a good idea as would Watering Australia infrastructure.

[Neferti]

Decentralisation is a good idea.
Moving authorities etc closer to places they affect or are related to, is also a good idea.

An Air Freight Hub at Parkes would be a good idea. More cities away from the coast would be a good idea as would Watering Australia infrastructure.

It could turn out to be a Great Idea ... might even get some of those people who cannot find a job some employment. Not necessarily with the Public Service but otherwise .... I haven't been to Armidale but it is a smallish country town (25,000 population?) So ... what about housing and so forth? Sounds like it could inject a LOT of interest in the area .... although the "locals" might get a little upset.

I'm not sure how far Armidale is from Sydney .... but it may have some impact ... surely ....

Australia really needs to develop larger communities outside the main Cities .... which are being swollen up by "migrants".

WE CAN DO IT.

That Aussie spirit and camaraderie .... I would suggest that moving from Canberra to Armidale would, undoubtedly, involve a LOT of "compensation" ..... and it may become a little "closeted" for a while ..... eventually the "locals" will engage and realise that the "newcomers" are just Aussies ... not monsters.

Fingers crossed.

[cods]

nef it is taking people and money AWAY from Canberra....

the people of Armidale will have no problems all that extra money coming in..

it giving jobs to people who already have the job.just putting them somewhere else isnt jobs and growth..

[Neferti]

nef it is taking people and money AWAY from Canberra....

the people of Armidale will have no problems all that extra money coming in..

it giving jobs to people who already have the job.just putting them somewhere else isnt jobs and growth..

We already have an overload of "people" coming and going from Canberra, Cods. Mostly Government jobs. How many shops close because .........?

Canberra is still GROWING and, although currently, we have the lowest (?) unemployment rate in Australia (due to the Public Service) ... this is NOT all about CANBERRA ... it is about AUSTRALIA as a whole ....

Moving a SECTION (or Department?) up to Armidale (how many people?) will mean that they will need to buy houses/rent, food, and so forth. It will enliven the town and give OPPORTUNITIES to those who live there that they otherwise wouldn't have and might even ENCOURAGE unemployed "specialists" from Sydney to apply for a job there to "start again. I see it as a real POSITIVE.

[Super Nova]

The UK decentralized government back office activity into the towns that had little economic activity. It helped some but not all of these towns. Another advantage is a cost reduction to the government, less welfare and lower wages due to lower cost of living. Cheaper rents.

Not a bad thing economically but the draw back was if they weren't before they became leftie towns and provided secure votes for labour in perpetuity. That was also the governments main game plan.

[Neferti]

The UK decentralized government back office activity into the towns that had little economic activity. It helped some but not all of these towns. Another advantage is a cost reduction to the government, less welfare and lower wages due to lower cost of living. Cheaper rents.

Not a bad thing economically but the draw back was if they weren't before they became leftie towns and provided secure votes for labour in perpetuity. That was also the governments main game plan.

In case you have forgotten how HUGE and isolated country towns in Australia are, SN, in comparison to "little UK" ....

We are not talking about "decentralizing" Government and wiping Canberra out (as it would), we are talking about an area in NSW where Barnaby Joyce presides .... he has a IDEA ... I tend to approve and would expect an INFLUX of Sydneysiders applying for jobs up there.

Isn't that a bonus?

Not everybody has your talents, SN, or income .... but reinvigorating a place like Armidale might give pissed off Sydneysiders an incentive to move (housing and rents would be way cheaper) and create a business of their own and make some money, rather than be on welfare.

[cods]

nef it is taking people and money AWAY from Canberra....

the people of Armidale will have no problems all that extra money coming in..

it giving jobs to people who already have the job.just putting them somewhere else isnt jobs and growth..

We already have an overload of "people" coming and going from Canberra, Cods. Mostly Government jobs. How many shops close because .........?

Canberra is still GROWING and, although currently, we have the lowest (?) unemployment rate in Australia (due to the Public Service) ... this is NOT all about CANBERRA ... it is about AUSTRALIA as a whole ....

Moving a SECTION (or Department?) up to Armidale (how many people?) will mean that they will need to buy houses/rent, food, and so forth. It will enliven the town and give OPPORTUNITIES to those who live there that they otherwise wouldn't have and might even ENCOURAGE unemployed "specialists" from Sydney to apply for a job there to "start again. I see it as a real POSITIVE.

the point is nef..

they are claiming its jobs and growth....when it isnt....c anberra will feel the pinch it doesnt only affect shops it affects schools and income for this govt...

if you are going to create jobs DO JUST THAT and employ people who are currently looking for work...

look at what it is costing to trf this dept....at a time when we have huge dept... doesnt work for me....that money could well build a hospital in the sticks somewhere... something useful ...