Adler A110 12g

[Rorschach]

[mantra]

Sounds like he's going to join forces with the Shooter's Party. Why would he be bothered justifying a gun? I bet this same gun manufactured today is a lot more effective than the one made 100 years ago.

[Outlaw Yogi]

The problem with anti-gunners banning guns is they know nothing about the guns they want banned.
For example I had a Mossberg 590 (8 shot+1 if cocked) pump action 12 guage shotgun confiscated as a prohibited weapon.
[tried putting image in but got rejected on size twice] - Do your own search on Mossberg 590.

Why? .. Because anti-gunners had seen pump action shot guns used in action movies so figured boogeymen all have pump action shotties.
So pump action and semi auto shot guns and semi auto rifles were banned, but not semi auto handguns.
Nor pump action or lever action rifles rifles, or lever action shotguns with can be used almost as quick as a semi auto.
Arnie Schnitzelgrabber used one in Terminator 2 and so the anti-gunners figure boogeymen all have lever action shotties now.

I hold Barry Unsworth, John Howard and Campbell Newman personally responsible for the current epidemic in fire arms thefts. In the early 90s I could buy a Chinese SKS for $350. Now they're going on the black market in Sydney for $36,000. Or a Browning 9mm pistol that I could buy for $800 is now going for $15,000 on the black market.

These gun bans have caused ever increasing amounts of illicitly imported weapons because they're now so valuable.

My own recent experience is an illegal gun dealer I've known for 20 years, in 2012 brought house breaking junkies into my valley to rob his neighbours of their guns, so he can sell them.
Fortunately his junkie B&E specialist is currently on remand for home invasion.

My personal opinion is that everyone from about the age of 12 should be taught how to fire and maintain a rifle. Then more of the general population would have more respect for fire arms rather than being scared of what they don't understand. And in the event we faced invasion from our North we could form almost instant citizens' militias to keep our country.

The anti-gun brigade has made most of the population victims and put the nation in peril.

[Rorschach]

Sounds like he's going to join forces with the Shooter's Party. Why would he be bothered justifying a gun? I bet this same gun manufactured today is a lot more effective than the one made 100 years ago.

I think Ricky was still a senator when he made the video.

[AnaTom]

And in the event we faced invasion from our North we could form almost instant citizens' militias to keep our country.

The anti-gun brigade has made most of the population victims and put the nation in peril.

Im fighting in the hear and now

On that day, they wont see me defending any of them. The sniveling dobbers of the day will have to suffer.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Someone really doesn't want me posting in this thread, I've had to resort to a few tricks to get posts through ..
Matra -

I bet this same gun manufactured today is a lot more effective than the one made 100 years ago.

This is precisely what I mean about the problem with anti-gunners banning things they know nothing about.
The lever action rifle was invented in the 1830s.
The lever actions currently used are based on the Marlin design (by Henri-Martini) first released in 1881.
Today all the best bolt action rifles are based on the Mauser 98 (Carl Gustaf) invented in 1898.

Sorry Mantra but when it comes to fire arms, you wouldn't know shit from clay if you smeared it on your face.

[mantra]

This is precisely what I mean about the problem with anti-gunners banning things they know nothing about.
The lever action rifle was invented in the 1830s.
The lever actions currently used are based on the Marlin design (by Henri-Martini) first released in 1881.
Today all the best bolt action rifles are based on the Mauser 98 (Carl Gustaf) invented in 1898.

Sorry Mantra but when it comes to fire arms, you wouldn't know shit from clay if you smeared it on your face.

I wasn't saying that I was an expert on fire arms. I heard a little on the news about this gun so thought I'd contribute to the thread.

I watched some show the other day on how certain types of handguns can be used as semi automatic weapons which was interesting, but that's where it ended. I know banning guns ultimately doesn't work - it just expands the black market.

I'm sorry you're having problems posting here. There's a glitch when you edit sometimes - you have to go back and submit your edited post a second time and that usually works.

[Rorschach]

The Adler is a lever action gun, it requires the shooter to cycle rounds manually. It is not Austomatic nor is it semi-automatic.

For those who don't know the difference between semi-automatic and automatic firearms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_firearm

So basically.... Semi Auto or Semi Automatic means that the action is semi-automatic. What that means is that once you have a round in the firing chamber, when you pull the trigger, that round will fire. As the bullet exits the firearm, the gases expelled from the cartridge eject the spent bullet casing and springs load the next round into the chamber from either an internal or external magazine. That’s it. One trigger pull = one bullet fired. It’s referred to as “semi-automatic” because the round is automatically cycled with a single trigger pull.

With Full Auto or Fully Automatic both the action and the trigger pull creates a fully automatic cycle. This means that once a round is loaded into the chamber, if you pull and hold the trigger, the firearm will continue to fire until you let go of the trigger or run out of ammunition. Fully automatic firearms are sometimes called “machine guns”.

[Outlaw Yogi]

I wasn't saying that I was an expert on fire arms.

Never claimed you were expressing knowledge or professing expertise, just that you are ignorant on this topic.

I heard a little on the news about this gun so thought I'd contribute to the thread.

Repeating what's reported is fine by me, I do it myself (on other topics) but recognise journalists often know nothing about anything other than journalism, and usually qualify the comment by stating where I heard/saw the relevant info. But you were offering an opinion based on ignorance without giving reason for such opinion.

I watched some show the other day ...

And in here lies the problem I've cited. Too many people take the word of lobbyists with vindictive agendas using distorted pseudo-facts to present their argument.
It's not unlike Sarah Hanson Young at a Senate committee hearing questioning a General on border security basing her opinion of border security on what she saw in a TV drama called Sea Patrol.

... on how certain types of handguns can be used as semi automatic weapons which was interesting, but that's where it ended.

With the exception of bolt action pistols (very rare) used for precision target shooting (eg Olympics) and antique single shot pistols, nearly all hand guns including revolvers can be used as, or are semi-automatic.

I know banning guns ultimately doesn't work - it just expands the black market.

Then why sing the anti-gun lyrics?

I'm sorry you're having problems posting here. There's a glitch when you edit sometimes - you have to go back and submit your edited post a second time and that usually works.

I know about the re-editing glitch, and generally only have to do it once. Then re-open the site link to view the correction. The blockage to this thread, and others previously (almost always regarding Muslims) has nothing to do with the editing glitch, and everything to do with this site being monitored by a spook agency tasked with censoring undesirable opinions and/or info.
Those at DSD may even agree with the opinion/s expressed but their political masters give orders counter to their own beliefs, so just doing what they're paid to do.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Just to illustrate that fire arms prohibitions/gun bans have nothing to do with protecting public safety or preventing crime and everything to do with protecting politicians from the public, here's some material regarding the 1994 Rwandan genocide. In which pangas (similar to a cane knife or machete) rather than fire arms were used to devastating effect.

Rwandan genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide
https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q ... n+genocide

A similar situation occurred in Solomon Islands in the early 90s.
Except guns were typically used.
A peace offering and supposed truce was sponsored by Oz on the condition combatants handed in their weapons in an amnesty. One side did, and the government side didn't, then allowed their mates to rob the police armoury of Belgian FN assault rifles and slaughter those who handed in their guns.