Australian Liberty Alliance

[Black Orchid]

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The federal government has provided millions over the last five years to ‘deradicalisation’ programs. Only one out of 87 of these programs actually deals with radicalised individuals. The remainder actually promote Islam. Some of these programs over the last 12 months are:

$120,000 has been provided for an Australian Rules Football competition open only to Islamic schools.

$114,820 has been provided to tackle violence between Islamic sects within the Islamic community.

$115,700 has been allocated to a program called People Against Violent Extremism. It tackles extremism by trying to ‘deradicalise’ those who oppose the construction of new mosques in their local community.

$56,500 was allocated to SalamCare. This group is led by a person who wrote Allahu Akbar on their Facebook page when the Islamic State announced that it had formed the caliphate and it campaigns against radicalisation by trying to stop people like the courageous Dutch politician, Geert Wilders, from coming to Australia.

Over $1 million has been allocated by the Attorney-General’s Department to pay for the legal fees of those facing terrorism charges or who are being questioned by ASIO.

Over $15 million was allocated to improve school security last year. Islamic schools made up the vast majority of schools to receive funding for this project.

$66,000 was provided by the Australian Federal Police to the Lebanese Muslim Association. This organisation has hosted a US-based imam who has stated:

“If we put a nationwide infrastructure in place and marshalled our resources, we’d take over this country in a very short time….What a great victory it will be for Islam to have this country in the fold and ranks of the Muslims.”

Over $165 million was given to Islam-sympathetic groups by Centrelink to help resettle migrants in Australia in the last 12 months.

And the Queensland government is now funding mosque open days.

The list goes on. The Prime Minister doesn’t understand the threat. And our government uses our taxes to fund and promote Islam. This helps to explain why, despite the billions that we spend on this problem, it is only getting worse.

The third example is that of our Australian Army.

It is now removing a motto from the hat badges of its Christian chaplains because it has been deemed offensive to Muslims.

This motto is “In this sign conquer".

The appeasement within the military comes just a few months after the appointment of the first imam in the Australian Defence Force, Sheikh Mohammadu Nawas Saleem.

Saleem is one of Australia’s most prominent imams. He is the treasurer of the Australian National Imams Council and works very closely with the Grand Mufti.

And Sheikh Saleem has called for Sharia law to implemented in Australia.

He has supported Hizb ut Tahrir publicly. This is the same Hizb ut Tahrir that says Muslims must not attend Anzac Day because it represents an attack on the caliphate. This is the same Hizb ut Tahrir that defends the concept of honour killings.

Sheikh Saleem has opposed military action against the Islamic State. And he has condemned laws that prohibit the advocation of terrorism on the basis that they limit the free speech of Islamic preachers.

And the Liberal government appointed this imam to the military. His job is to help increase recruitment from the Islamic community.

Just so you know, the Islamic community has more of its sons fighting for the Islamic State than for Australia.

All of these examples highlight how unprepared our political leaders, our government and our military is to deal with the threat of Islamic violence.

And if they won’t defend against Islamic violence, then we are also wide open for subversion in other ways: through the implementation of halal certification, through the acceptance of polygamy via Centrelink, through the indoctrination of our children in the national curriculum.

If our government cannot bring itself to understand the violence of Islam, it will never be able to defend itself against the non-violent but equally subversive political threat that Islam poses in a democracy.

http://bernardgaynor.com.au/gold-coast- ... ce-speech/

Maybe these guys can shake up the Lib/Labs?

[mantra]

Sounds like a radical party. The government benefits to Muslims might seem generous, but how much funding do various Christian organisations get? I can't see the Islamic organisations getting more. We should stop propping up any religious organisation - even the Catholics who pay no tax on their multi billion dollar conglomerate.

[Rorschach]

Well why don't you back up your slur with knowledge and give us the facts mantra?
there are no Christian deradicalization programs BTW.

[Black Orchid]

Sounds like a radical party.

Like the Greens?

We should stop propping up any religious organisation - even the Catholics who pay no tax on their multi billion dollar conglomerate.

Put away your hate of Catholics for the moment and concentrate on addressing what may well become a huge problem for our children and their children.

Do we need or have special Catholic Crime Squads? Do we have to spend millions on de-radicalizing Catholics? Is Centrelink paying out money for multiple wives of Catholics?

[mantra]

Hate is your terminology - so use the word for your thoughts only - not mine. The Catholics aren't much worse than most religious organisations. If they didn't protect their paedophiles - they might actually gain a little respect. What do you think would happen if we stopped all funding to Australian Islamic groups and only gave to all the other religions who held their hands out for a slice of the pie? Radicalisation would become a whole lot worse if we blatantly tried to starve all Australian Muslims of any oxygen by treating them like lepers.

None of the religious schools have to justify the government funding they receive - nor do any of these religion organisations pay tax. Why should us atheists have to prop them up - Islamic or otherwise?

These often wealthy religious schools don’t even have to account for the funding they have been given. They can use the money to build a squash court for teachers, a darts room for students or, dare I say it, a course on lesbian surfboard making, and none of us would be any the wiser. It’s a no-questions-asked use of taxpayers’ money.

When these laws were passed in the Victorian upper house, only the Greens and the Sex Party’s Fiona Patten voted against them. In the wake of this legislation, it would be illuminating to see where Victorian MPs’ children go to school. We may well find that most of them attend private schools. If this is the case, then isn’t their vote for this funding almost a conflict of interest?

Let’s say hypothetically that 70 per cent of Victorian MPs sent their children to a Scientology school or an Exclusive Brethren school and then gave all Scientology and Exclusive Brethren schools 25 per cent of the funding that the local state school down the road had received, with no accountability for how it was spent. Wouldn’t there be a public outcry? But what if it turned out that 70 per cent of Victorian MPs’ children went to a Catholic or Anglican school and all Catholic and Anglican schools got the windfall?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion ... 6c2db6c31c

[Rorschach]

I'm sorry so the religions themselves don't get funding even though you inferred that... its private schools you are talking about and you seem to think Islamic Schools unlike other private religious schools, get no government funding... I do hope you are going to prove that.

Government threatens six Islamic schools with funding cuts over management concerns
By political reporter Francis Keany
Updated 13 Nov 2015, 6:49pm

The Federal Government is threatening to withdraw funding for six private Islamic schools, following concerns about their financial management. Gee I guess they are funded after all.

The schools are run by the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils and located in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide and Canberra.

Formal notices have been sent to the schools, following an audit earlier this year.

Federal Education Minister Simon Birmingham said there had been "ongoing concerns" about their financial management and governance arrangements.

"I am committed to ensuring that all school authorities meet the requirements of the Education Act to ensure that our taxpayer dollar and any private investment by parents is being spent as intended to benefit Australian students," Senator Birmingham said in a statement.

"This action does not come lightly.
Schools affected:
•Islamic College of Brisbane
•Islamic College of Melbourne
•Islamic College of South Australia
•Islamic School of Canberra
•Langford Islamic College, WA
•Malek Fahd Islamic School, NSW

"All schools must have effective management and accountability arrangements in place to support the best possible education outcomes for their students."

It follows ongoing concerns about the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, with accusations of mismanagement of taxpayer funds.

Each school authority has 28 days to respond to the notices, with the penalties for non-compliance including the removal of Commonwealth funding for the six schools.

In a statement, the acting principal of the Islamic College of South Australia, Dr Lynda MacLeod, said it commits to "fully complying with all requirements" of the Australian Education Act.

She said initiatives undertaken by the college in recent weeks included removing the previous college board.

"This is a very good school with highly committed and professional staff and a highly motivated school community," Dr MacLeod said.

"The Islamic College has a strong record and history of achievement. This will stand it in good stead as we restructure and restore it."

[mantra]

I'm sorry so the religions themselves don't get funding even though you inferred that... its private schools you are talking about and you seem to think Islamic Schools unlike other private religious schools, get no government funding... I do hope you are going to prove that.

Where did I say or infer that Islamic schools got no government funding? Stop being deliberately misleading. If we stop funding to one religious organisation because some people hate Muslims - then we have to stop funding to all of them. The ALA is the party whinging about it.

[Rorschach]

idiot... the funding is stopped because they break the funding rules...

and yes you more than inferred it in you rush to hate and slander

[mantra]

idiot... the funding is stopped because they break the funding rules...

Provide some evidence of funding being stopped when a religious or private school breaks the rules - if there are any rules associated with their funding?

and yes you more than inferred it in you rush to hate and slander

No I did not infer that Islamic schools didn't get funding. Read my responses for a change instead of making false allegations. There is nothing slanderous about any of my posts either. You're just looking for excuses to be abusive.

[Rorschach]

idiot... the funding is stopped because they break the funding rules...

Provide some evidence of funding being stopped when a religious or private school breaks the rules - if there are any rules associated with their funding? READ THE BLOODY ARTICLE

and yes you more than inferred it in you rush to hate and slander

No I did not infer that Islamic schools didn't get funding. Read my responses for a change instead of making false allegations. There is nothing slanderous about any of my posts either. You're just looking for excuses to be abusive.

No just pointing out your stupidity and the fact you keep changing arguments when asked to back your inferences up. You've posted a few rants lately that are either factually wrong or you refuse to back up... just slander. Pointing that out because I'm sick of it is not abuse.