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Trans-Pacific Partnership

Post by Rorschach » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:39 pm

Let's hope, Andrew Robb's urge to seal another trade deal, is not greater than his common sense and the need not to sell us down the river.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership, or TPP, is a controversial deal mired in bitter argument that has, since its initial proposal, been less about free and fair trade and more about the needs of America and its attempts to cement its place in the region against the growing influence of China. "By hook or by crook" as they say, America wants to entrench and protect the might of its multinational corporations in the region.

The negotiations of this deal, have caused huge debate within the US and abroad, and have been roundly criticised by everyone from academia to the workplace.
The TPP has the potential for real harm
OPINION
By Ian Verrender
Updated about 4 hours ago

Most free trade agreements deliver little in the way of benefits, apart from photo opportunities for politicians, but the highly secretive Trans-Pacific Partnership has the potential for real harm in Australia, writes Ian Verrender.

You can almost picture it.

Palms swaying gently in a breeze laden with the heady scent of plumeria, a troupe of women in grass skirts, hips gyrating to the intoxicating rhythm of ukuleles and the soulful sounds of a Polynesian choir as the sun sinks beneath the Pacific in a riot of ever darkening orange.

"Where do I sign?" the trade ministers cry in unison before toasting themselves with yet another pina colada.

Trade ministers, their chief negotiators and raft of bureaucrats and assorted hangers on from 12 Pacific rim countries have been gathered in Waikoloa, on the Kona coast of Hawaii - known as the Big Island and not to be confused with tourist dominated Oahu - for the past week.

It's here that our very own trade minister, Andrew Robb, hopes to ink yet another trade deal, his fourth since being elected to government just 18 months ago.

But this will be no ordinary trade deal. This is the Trans-Pacific Partnership, or TPP for those in the know.

It is a deal mired in controversy and bitter argument that, over the decade or so since its proposal, has become less about trade and increasingly about politics.

Specifically, it is about American politics, and its attempts to cement its place as a regional superpower against the growing influence of China and entrench the might of its multinational corporations.

It has also caused a huge debate within the US with the trade deal roundly criticised by everyone from academics such as Nobel prize winning economist Paul Krugman to workers who watched US jobs evaporate in the wake of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

Now the Democrats have split with Senator Elizabeth Warren hoping to steal votes from Hillary Clinton in the upcoming race for presidential candidate.

But this is a deal that could - and that's the operative word because no one knows any of the details - cost Australians dearly, particularly if our negotiators fail to protect our rights as they did in the Australia-US Free Trade Agreement in 2005.

While the negotiations have been hammered out in secret for all these years, enough detail has been leaked to give rise to serious concerns about some of the provisions and the impact it could have on Australian sovereignty.

The biggest concern is over intellectual property rights, particularly over pharmaceuticals.

As part of the deal, large American pharmaceutical corporations want to extend the life of their patents, arguing that having spent billions to bring their research to fruition they should be entitled to a just reward so they can invest the profits into developing new medicines.

On the surface, it sounds like a reasonable argument.

The irony is that a patent essentially limits free trade. And America is using the auspices of a free trade agreement to push through changes that would inhibit competition by shutting out generic manufacturers. That means consumers will pay more for medicines for much longer.

The other major issue revolves around what is known as investor state dispute settlements. These clauses open the door to foreign companies to launch legal action against a democratically elected government, thereby undermining sovereign rights.

This has become a common inclusion in free trade agreements in recent years. The most celebrated case is being fought between tobacco giant Philip Morris and the Australian government over plain packaging of cigarettes.

Should it win here, it will strengthen its case to continue selling tobacco - an addictive drug that kills vast numbers of people - around the globe.

In a recent interview with Fairfax, Robb assured the nation that he would not sign away our rights or do anything that may harm the national interest.

Let's hope so. But given the secrecy around the entire deal, we'll never know until after the ink is dry. And by then it will be too late.

What is it with politicians and free trade agreements? And how useful are they?

The answer to the first question is that they provide wonderful photo opportunities in exotic locales while giving the impression of triumph, all great fodder for the next election campaign. The answer to the second question is: generally, not very much.

That may come as a shock to anyone who's studied economics and, in particular, the work of the father of modern economics, Adam Smith.

Smith - in his seminal work the Wealth of Nations - astutely observed that consumers should be allowed to buy goods from the cheapest source. All protection did was to create monopolies that he described as "a great enemy to good management".

Great strides have been made in reducing global trade barriers in the decades since the end of World War II. And that's one of the problems. There now are far fewer trade barriers to break down.

Those that remain - particularly around agriculture - have proven so difficult to remove that they have thwarted the ultimate goal of free global trade, which has forced governments to do individual deals with one another.

A 2010 Productivity Commission study into Australia's bilateral and regional trade deals concluded that while some businesses had benefitted from the furious signing of new agreements, "it appears that businesses generally have made limited use of the opportunities available from Australia's existing BRTA".

The Productivity Commission concluded that the best way to benefit from free trade was for a country to remove its own trade barriers, just as Australia already has done.

Even a survey conducted by the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, while supporting free trade agreements, found that accessing the benefits was a "hit and miss" exercise.

In another damning report last year, the business lobby group said most agreements were so poorly drafted and so complex that they were next to useless in a commercial sense.

One of the most worrying aspects of the current round of negotiations, given the potential to entrench the interests of big American corporations, is the extent to which Australian negotiators failed in similar dealings a decade ago when the Australia US Free Trade Agreement was signed.

Again, it was intellectual property rights that formed a major part of proceedings. That section alone, an 11,500 word agreement in baffling legalese, is open to broad interpretation for anyone with an army of lawyers on hand.

According to Murdoch University Professor Anna George, the Australia US deal of a decade ago allows firms to "cherry pick" legal obligations. That means a company could take action to block labelling or bypass standards associated with policies to tackle obesity or diabetes, or information on use of antibiotics in cattle or fish.

A recent case where firms producing sunscreens with nano-particles were not required to label them as such appears to be a case in point.

And yet that deeply flawed deal appears to be the starting point for negotiations with Trans-Pacific Partnership.

Still, as they say, ignorance is bliss. Andrew Robb hopes to have this new agreement in the bag by the end of the week or maybe early next month at the latest.

Pass me a mai tai.

Ian Verrender is the ABC's business editor.
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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership

Post by mantra » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:22 pm

The rumours circulating the TPP are seriously worrying. Medication will rise as generic patents will more than likely cease. On top of that if a large corporation believes that Australia isn't being fair in the distribution of their products - they can sue the government. This indicates that we are going to have all sorts of rubbish shoved down our throats and we won't be able to do a thing about it.

The government keeps telling us what a marvellous job their doing by signing off on all these trade agreements. Signing off to the Chinese was bad enough - but the TPP might prove to be the most destructive.

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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership

Post by Rorschach » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:40 am

Liberal Senator Bill Heffernan blasts Trade Minister over secret TPP talks
Date April 10, 2015 - 10:09AM
Esther Han
Consumer Affairs Reporter

Liberal Senator Bill Heffernan has blasted Trade Minister Andrew Robb for conducting Trans-Pacific Partnership talks in secret, preventing a "contest of ideas" that could uncover unintended consequences.

Despite knowing he will get "in trouble" for speaking out, the veteran senator criticised Mr Robb for hiding the "guts" of the soon-to-be-sealed trade pact, which involves 12 Pacific Rim countries covering 40 per cent of the world's economy.

"Politicians and governments need to have enough self-confidence to be able to have a contest of ideas, rather than doing something in secret and dropping it on the table," he told Fairfax Media.

"I'm concerned about unintended consequences. I'm worried about how much will be fait accompli."

The Public Health Association, Electronic Frontiers Australia, and consumer advocacy group Choice are among many interest groups who have long protested against the secrecy.

They claim leaked draft chapters from Wikileaks show the TPP could push up the price of medicines, make it harder to restrict tobacco and alcohol sales, and force internet service providers to aggressively enforce copyright rules.

Mr Heffernan said most concerning was the Investor State Dispute Settlement clause, which empowers multinationals to sue governments if new laws such as food safety standards harm their profits.

"I want to be asking these detailed questions, about the capacity for corporations to sue governments," he said.

"The average person here in Parliament hasn't got their head around a range of things. If you don't know what's on the table, how do you know what questions to ask?"

Mr Robb labelled the complaints as "bizarre", saying Mr Heffernan had been offered briefings and an opportunity to view documents, providing confidentiality was respected.

"To the best of my knowledge he has not taken up this offer which is something I am happy to facilitate for any member of parliament," he said.

Mr Heffernan said he had not taken up the offer because the TPP was a "directionless, bureaucratic brief", "just a motherhood statement".

Instead, he wants to see the TPP released to the public so that it can be tested by people with "dirt under their fingernails". He said: "It ought to pass the paddock test."

Mr Robb insisted many stakeholders were actively participating in ongoing consultations and accused critics, such as the Australian Council of Trade Unions, of pretending to be locked out.

"It is naive in the extreme to suggest the government can negotiate such a complex agreement without seeking guidance and advice from various interest groups," he said.

"This is precisely how we guard against the unintended consequences that [Heffernan] refers to."

There have been a thousand consultations since 2011, including 150 focusing on health-related intellectual property issues.

Associate Professor Kimberlee Weatherall, intellectual property expert at Sydney University, has attended consultations and believes they are too general to be meaningful.

She said intellectual property experts like herself were demanding access to the TPP so they can assess the impacts on the public.

She said the leaked IP chapter showed the TPP locked in a "20th-Century version of copyright", where copyright owners could control every last copy, including every digital copy and computer memory.

"When Bill Heffernan talks about 'unintended consequences' it's because there can be implications that even negotiators aren't aware of. They're not operating at the cutting edge of specific areas, such as quarantine," she said.

"They can talk to experts. But it's another thing to have the 'contest of ideas' from different, competing groups so you can thrash out the implications.

"We are locking in detailed obligations about how our intellectual property has to look potentially for the next 20 to 30 years. And you can't do that behind closed doors."


Trade officials from Australia, the United States, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam are engaged in closed-door negotiations to finish the TPP in the next few months.
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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:17 am

Here in the States only giant corporations and select politicans are privy to the details of the TPP. Now that a Obama-hating conservative Congress is behind President Obama on this issue (and this issue only) I am even more suspicious than before. Since Ronald Reagan the Republicans have been about enriching the rich, the elite, the military and corporations at the expense of everyone else. There is no reason to suspect they have changed. Obama is a corporate president like the rest of them. Senator Elizabeth Warren is one of the few asking why the public can't see the TPP deal.

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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Tue May 05, 2015 10:55 pm

Hillary Clinton has put herself in opposition to the TPP - probably not because she doesn't support it (she probably does b/c she is a corporate candidate) but because it will win her some votes.

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Re: Trans-Pacific Partnership

Post by Rorschach » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:03 pm

I back Penny Wong 100% on this issue...
Penny Wong backs fight against free-trade clauses that let companies sue Australia
Gabrielle Chan Political correspondent
Friday 24 July 2015 12.42 AEST Last modified on Friday 24 July 2015 13.33 AEST

Labor has committed to remove investor state dispute settlement (ISDS) clauses from existing trade agreements, including the Chinese and Korean free trade agreements (FTA) recently signed by the Abbott government.

The motion was supported by the opposition trade spokeswoman, Penny Wong.

The motion, moved by New South Wales MP Pat Conroy, would also mean a Labor government would work to reform ISDS tribunals to remove “perceived conflicts of interest” of judges determining disputes.

Conroy said: “When the Productivity Commission, the chief justice of the high court and a range of academics say ISDS must be reformed, it is time to fix this system that undermines our sovereignty.”

“Updating and renegotiating existing FTAs occurs regularly and this amendment is consistent with that.

Bill to ban investor-state dispute settlements garners support.

“Many nations have expressed concern about the ISDS tribunal system and a future Labor government will have numerous international partners interested in reforming the ISDS system.”

Conroy’s motion states: “Labor in government will review ISDS provisions in existing trade and investment agreements and seek to work with Australia’s trading partners to remove these provisions.

“While this process is underway, Labor in government will work with the international community to reform ISDS tribunals so they remove perceived conflicts of interest by temporary appointed judges, adhere to precedents and include appeal mechanisms.”

Queensland MP Terri Butler said parliamentarians should not have to take into account the interests of multinational companies when determining legislation.

“We don’t want parliament having to take into account whether big tobacco might take them to court,” Butler said.

“Imagine if in introducing Medicare, Bob Hawke had to take into account a big medical company might find its profits were affected and take us to an international arbitration court.

“If that is not a sufficient example, I don’t know what is.”

ISDS clauses give foreign investors the right to sue governments if the company’s business interests are adversely affected by national policy. The Asian arm of the tobacco multinational Philip Morris is challenging the Australian government over plain packaging laws, despite the company already losing a case in the Australian courts.

John Howard refused to include an ISDS in the US–Australia free trade agreement.

The Coalition has agreed to an ISDS in the newly signed Korean free trade agreement, with carve-outs for public health and the environment, but refused one in the Japanese agreement.
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