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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:40 am
LABOR leader Luke Foley has said he will dump the second harbour rail tunnel to connect the North West Rail line to the Bankstown line if he wins the March state election.
“I am not convinced another connection from the north is a priority for the city,” Mr Foley said yesterday, as he promised to release his infrastructure plan next month.
“I am looking at all the proposals on the drawing board at the moment and I’ll have a policy before the public of NSW early in the campaign.”
Premier Mike Baird is promising to use the $20 billion he says he will reap from a 49 per cent long-term lease of electricity networks to build the second harbour rail tunnel, as well as new connections to the north and south for the WestConnex Motorway.
Without the second harbour crossing rapid transit line, the $8.3 billion North West Rail Link would begin at Rouse Hill and end at Chatswood, creating a possible logjam.
Labor has committed to the WestConnex project and to maintaining the North West Rail, but it has to find ways of funding other projects given it is going to the March 28 poll opposing the sale of the electricity “poles and wires”.
The second harbour crossing has been costed at $10.4 b.
Mr Foley said he did not want to comment further until he released his policy. Mr Baird has promised $10.4 billion for a Sydney Rapid Transit line including a second Sydney Harbour crossing, new CBD stations and conversion of the Bankstown Line to rapid transit. The government has also promised $1 billion for a Western Sydney Rail Upgrade Program to improve the network, $1 billion for Parramatta Light Rail, a $4.5 billion Western Harbour road tunnel and $1.5 billion WestConnex connections to the south and west. It is likely Labor will also commit to Parramatta Light Rail, with ex-leader John Robertson having pledged money for a feasibility study into the project. But Mr Foley would not say whether he would keep WestConnex extensions.
He told 2GB he was sceptical that as much as $20 billion could be raised from the poles and wires sale, and claimed he could use the existing capital infrastructure program to build projects. “The state has a $15 billion annual infrastructure spend, or $150 billion over 10 years,” Mr Foley said.
Mr Baird hit back last night, saying without the Sydney Rapid Transit “all heavy rail lines are forecast to reach capacity between 2017 and 2024”.
“Anybody who opposes SRT also opposes a 60 per cent increase in the capacity of the rail system during peak periods, along with end-to-end journeys from the outer-northwest to the southwest, without the need for interchange at Chatswood,” he said.
“Labor’s legacy to NSW was a $30 billion infrastructure backlog … they have learned nothing and lack vision.”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n ... 7198873159
I certainly won't support another harbour crossing and I will definitely NOT support a direct link between the North Shore and Bankstown.
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by Rorschach » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:17 am
Well if you see the traffic chaos (growing) you will realise another crossing is necessary.
I don't understand the Bankstown choice though.
I also think ending the new rail project at Chatswood is stupid.
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by Black Orchid » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:39 pm
Rorschach wrote:Well if you see the traffic chaos (growing) you will realise another crossing is necessary.
Where is this traffic chaos and where is it going? I won't use the tunnel it gives me the creeps but I use the Harbour Bridge regularly (at all times of the day .. peak and off peak) and never have a drastic problem.
Perhaps this traffic chaos you see isn't necessarily heading over the harbour?
What IS needed are more viable options of travel from the northern beaches to the city.
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by Black Orchid » Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:24 pm
Rorschach wrote:I also think ending the new rail project at Chatswood is stupid.
Where would you have it go? As it is the Epping to Chatswood rail link just continues on into the city.
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by Rorschach » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:00 pm
I would have it go into the city.
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by Black Orchid » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:08 pm
Rorschach wrote:I would have it go into the city.
But it will go into the city from Chatswood.
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by Neferti » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:10 pm
Which region in Sydney do you live Rorschach? Black Orchid is, North Shore, I gather.
When I lived in Sydney, I was in St Ives. I actually worked in Chatswood, as did my husband.
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by Rorschach » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:31 pm
Black Orchid wrote:Rorschach wrote:I would have it go into the city.
But it will go into the city from Chatswood.
They are 2 different rail systems.
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by Black Orchid » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:39 pm
Rorschach wrote:Black Orchid wrote:Rorschach wrote:I would have it go into the city.
But it will go into the city from Chatswood.
They are 2 different rail systems.
Exactly. The North West Link will be a fully automated line and, as it is, the Epping to Chatswood line will be closed for 3-6 months to accommodate it.
All one will have to do is get off one train, walk 5 paces and get on another to the City. There is absolutely no way they could extend it to the City.
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by Rorschach » Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:06 pm
Black Orchid wrote:Rorschach wrote:Black Orchid wrote:Rorschach wrote:I would have it go into the city.
But it will go into the city from Chatswood.
They are 2 different rail systems.
Exactly. The North West Link will be a fully automated line and, as it is, the Epping to Chatswood line will be closed for 3-6 months to accommodate it.
All one will have to do is get off one train, walk 5 paces and get on another to the City. There is absolutely no way they could extend it to the City.
Yes it could.
I wouldn't like to be at Chatswood station when a trainload of passengers join the trainload of passengers already on the train to go over the bridge.
Nonsensical.
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