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Cattle tax

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:49 pm

Pardon the delay, I read this in the Australian weeks ago, but I've been busy or pre-occupied.

Time to put vegetarians on the menu I reckon, or on a live transport ship to some place with cannibals.

EDIT ADDITION - Despite the last 2 generations of my family breeding cattle (and horses) I actually usually eat pork rather than beef. .. Reason/s? .. tastes better, and cheaper.

NB: Beef is just the first target on the veg nazi/vegan fundamentalist hit list. Next will be pork, then the price will increase. After that will be lamb/mutton, and not long aftyer that, chicken.

Make no mistake, veg nazis intend to prevent people consuming meat by destroying the industries which produce it.
And so are a genuine threat to the food chain. Time they got their own planet to phuk up and got off this one.

Nats lobby hard to destroy 'cattle tax' before it starts
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 865807757#
SENIOR Nationals are moving to scuttle an environmental certification scheme for beef producers backed by WWF and McDonalds.

The Nationals warn that the scheme will increase costs in the industry and that graziers who refuse to sign up could be locked out of beef markets.

Veteran Nationals senator Ron Boswell attacked the Global Roundtable for Sustainable Beef, likening it to "green mail" and warning that it needed to explain the process for proving "sustainability" and the costs.

Senator Boswell will move for a Senate inquiry into the sustainability initiative as the Nationals' Senate candidate for Western Australia, Shane Van Styn, moved to make it an election issue.

Dubbing it a "cattle tax", Mr Van Styn said the certification scheme would fund global environmental groups to wage war on farmers in Australia.

The roundtable released its first draft guidelines last week.

They will frame a future definition of what constitutes a sustainable cattle farm.

The guidelines are expected to be adopted by retailers such as Coles and Woolworths as the minimum requirement for farmers wanting to supply them beef. McDonald's has said that globally, by 2016, it will buy and use only meat that can be endorsed and certified as having been produced sustainably.

The first guidelines released by the roundtable -- which included farmers, meat industry representatives, retailers and environmental groups such as WWF -- try to identify key areas from the farm gate to the abattoir that must be addressed to ensure production around the globe is environmentally sound, socially responsible and economically viable.

Senator Boswell said WWF had waged a war against the practices of Queensland farmers.

"Imagine WWF sitting down determining the environmental conditions that our producers are obliged to meet before they can market their cattle." He said WWF was no friend of farmers and would get greater leverage to force cattle producers down the path of more restricted practices and compulsory standards.

"I do not want to see them burdened with more cost and more paperwork and more unnecessary environmental obligations to keep WWF in business and provide a marketing point of difference for the likes of McDonalds," he said.

WWF Australia's chief executive Dermot O'Gorman said the roundtable's draft definition for sustainable beef paved the way for a truly sustainable future for production. "Australia's beef industry is already in the box seat to meet the demand for sustainable beef from around the world," he said.

"By taking further steps towards proving our products as clean and green, Australian producers will be well placed to be global leaders in the beef market.

"Australia already has one of the world's best traceability systems and for many years we have been (researching) . . . regenerative grazing management."
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Re: Cattle tax

Post by freediver » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:16 pm

NB: Beef is just the first target on the veg nazi/vegan fundamentalist hit list.
It's pretty far down the list, after whales, dolphins, chickens, turtles, elephants, weedy sea dragons, fish, koalas etc.

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Re: Cattle tax

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:39 pm

Cattle aren't the problem:


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Re: Cattle tax

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:03 pm

freediver wrote:
NB: Beef is just the first target on the veg nazi/vegan fundamentalist hit list.
It's pretty far down the list, after whales, dolphins, chickens, turtles, elephants, weedy sea dragons, fish, koalas etc.
Oh well pardon me then, I had no idea there were industries breeding whales, dolphins, turtles, elephants, weedy sea dragons and koalas for human consumption.
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Re: Cattle tax

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:41 pm

AiA in Atlanta wrote:Cattle aren't the problem:
Indeed they're not, vegetarians are the problem.

Y'see veg nazis/vegan fundamentalists seek to impose their irrational dictates on others in the name of nature and animal welfare.
But the truth is veg nazis hate nature because nature favours the strong, and vegetarians are weak and slow, so they're hell bent on destroying nature and replacing with their imaginary politically correct perversion of it.
For example veg nazis blame beef industries for forest destruction. Well I can post countless photos of cattle grazing in forests.
In reality forest are cleared to grow vegetables. First it's clearfelled, rock picked, stick picked, and then lazer leveled.
The best furfie of all is the claim that "the Amazon (rainforests) are cleared for beef patties". Well that's about 30 years out of date.
Fact is the Amazon rainforests are being cleared to grow soy beans, so veg nazis can feel good about themselves.
So in essence vegetarians are the major sponsors of forest destruction.

Another claim veg nazis make is cattle (meat industries) use massive amounts of water. Having experience in both industries I can inform that irrigated vege crops use about 10 times the volume of water than a herd of cattle generating an equal volume of produce. But then considering veges are 90% water that's no surprise, unless dim-witted like a vegetarian. Irrigating vege crops also causes aquifer and ground salinity. Cattle don't.

Veg nazis claims their impositions are for animal welfare are absurd. Just watch a vegetarian around large animals, they're intimidated.
The more extreme ones, vegan fundamentalists are opposed to animal ownership .. that's right, they want to prohibit keeping of pets.
Their bizarre dogmas posit that animals that eat vege matter ie grass, like rabbits, deer ect are the good guys, and that predatory animals like cats and dogs are bad.

This animal welfare bull$#!+ is quite cruel. I knew someone who rehailitated injured wild animals. The org (Wires) did a survey to test the survival rate of released rehabilitated animals. The result was 98% wiped out within 2 days. Suggesting the remaining 2% may last a week if lucky.
So they put this creature through all the pain of the injury, rather than euthanize, and then let them go in an unfit and weakened condition in to a place where they have no territory, or their former territory now inhabited by a stronger rival.

The insanity of it never ends with this lot. Now it's illegal to kill cane toads in the manner I do, by chopping their heads of with a machete or sticking them with a sharp instrument through the spine at the base of the skull. We're supposed to collect them and put the filthy things in the freezer, and them kill them in some unexplained manner.
Well I don't have a freezer.
But consider the torture aspect of this practice. Humans like cane toads have nervous systems and both animals originated in tropical places. So I would say to those promoting such a practice to strip naked and stay in the freezer for a bit, and then try telling me it's not painful.
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Re: Cattle tax

Post by DaS Energy » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:42 am

Keep in mind the Nats are Politicians and politicians see themselves free to lie. If the Nats truly don't like it, then they don't to vote for it, its called crossing the floor!

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Re: Cattle tax

Post by freediver » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:11 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:
freediver wrote:
NB: Beef is just the first target on the veg nazi/vegan fundamentalist hit list.
It's pretty far down the list, after whales, dolphins, chickens, turtles, elephants, weedy sea dragons, fish, koalas etc.
Oh well pardon me then, I had no idea there were industries breeding whales, dolphins, turtles, elephants, weedy sea dragons and koalas for human consumption.
Why would you farm whales when there are huge numbers of them in the wild to harvest?

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Re: Cattle tax

Post by Neferti » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:44 pm

Tell me, what use are whales in the environment?

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Re: Cattle tax

Post by Super Nova » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:17 pm

Neferti~ wrote:Tell me, what use are whales in the environment?
They are top of the food chain like we are (well except for us). Someone has to be.

I have to say I cannot find a single site quickly that answers this question.
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Re: Cattle tax

Post by DaS Energy » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:12 pm

Super Nova wrote:
Neferti~ wrote:Tell me, what use are whales in the environment?
They are top of the food chain like we are (well except for us). Someone has to be.

I have to say I cannot find a single site quickly that answers this question.
No, "White Tip Shark". They know it! Not for White Pointers to take on. Whales eat krill.

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