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Integration not Multiculti

Post by Rorschach » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:05 pm

Morrison talks up English tests to qualify for citizenship
July 18, 2013
Rick Feneley
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Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison says Australia needs to revisit its English language proficiency test requirements for immigrants. More needs to be done

The man who plans to be Australia's next immigration minister has re-embraced the 1970s term ''integration'', raised the prospect of a series of English-test ''barriers'' to attaining citizenship, and vowed asylum boats would be turned back without seeking Indonesia's agreement.

There is a great opportunity to have a series of barriers.

On the day after another boat tragedy claimed four lives, Scott Morrison delivered a speech titled ''Reasons to be optimistic about Australia's immigration future'' to a Muslim-founded interfaith group and insisted Australia would make its own decisions about when to turn back boats.

''It can be done and under a Coalition government it will be done,'' the opposition immigration spokesman said on Wednesday. Mr Morrison told the Affinity Intercultural Foundation in Sydney that he was confident Australia would continue as ''arguably the most successful and cohesive multi-ethnic society in the world today'' but ''we cannot take it for granted''. MULti-ethnic/Multiculti... you need to abandon such settlement policies and get back to Assimilation or Integration. Not pander to divisive groups

He said Australia needed more than a one-off snapshot of immigrants' English proficiency and follow-up tests could ensure language skills did not remain static. If they are English proficient to an acceptable degree then there is no need for followup.

With a big shift from permanent immigration to temporary visas, Mr Morrison said: ''There is a great opportunity to have a series of barriers, if you like - a temporary entry [test], a permanent residence and potentially even citizenship, if people want to have that conversation.''

An Afghan worker at the Parramatta migrant resource centre had told Mr Morrison he would make the English language test apply to citizenship. Asked if a Coalition government would proceed with such tests, Mr Morison said: ''I will leave them as observations at this point. I don't think you rush into massive changes in that area lightly and I think you want to take a lot of advice on how you achieve that, but the principle, I'm saying today, is I want to see the English language and economic participation put at the centre of our settlement programs.'' Economic participation? please explain?

Mr Morrison was asked about his celebration of the word integration. Is it no longer a ''dark and negative term'' suggesting the blurring of cultural identities? It never was... Multiculturalism, celebrating diversity, took over in the mid-1970s, but Mr Morrison said: ''It's not about changing who you are … Whatever name you want to give to the various policies of the past 30 years, I agree with the purpose of them and that is to get Australians to live together and not be separated by language or religion or culture but to actually find the middle ground where we live together as Australians.'' Yet multiculi has been a divisive policy... and both major parties have backed it

Mr Morrison denied he had insulted Indonesia by saying the Coalition would not seek its agreement before turning back boats, and then by suggesting the country's Foreign Minister had been stood over by his Australian counterpart, Bob Carr, to harden Jakarta's line against the turnback policy. John Howard, as prime minister, had sought no such agreement from Indonesia and good relations had continued.
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Re: Integration not Multiculti

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:52 pm

Citizenship should not be awarded to people unless they are reasonably proficient in English, period. As such, there should be no need for follow-ups.

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Re: Integration not Multiculti

Post by Neferti » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:34 pm

The original migrants who arrived post WW2 with not much else other than a suitcase, integrated very well. They actually wanted to be Aussies.

Multiculturalism has failed, in my opinion. Migrants should at least speak the local language, being bi-lingual is an advantage too but having signs in a variety of languages instead of just English is silly and encourages migrants to continue with the problem they were running away from, surely.

Australia is still a relatively young country, surely we can see what has happened in Britain and the States where there are areas that the average citizen avoids due to the enclaves of migrants who don't want to fit in, rather they want to bring their "troubles" from the Old Country. Sydney (and possibly Melbourne) are already going down this track.

Whoever brought in the Politically Correct thing has a lot to answer for!

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Re: Integration not Multiculti

Post by Rorschach » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:38 pm

Well we can thanks the idiot Grassby, Comrade Whitlam and the ex=Lib Fraser
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Post by Neferti » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:33 pm

Rorschach wrote:Well we can thanks the idiot Grassby, Comrade Whitlam and the ex=Lib Fraser
Grassby gone. Whitless and Fraser still nose in the trough. Surely nobody (other than their immediate family) listens to these Old Farts any more?

I saw Keating dragged out the other day. He and Anita are still married but haven't lived together for eons? Apparently. Something to do with them being Catholics!

Here we have a perfectly decent, intelligent, man in Tony Abbott. A Family Man who has a wife and 3 grown daughters and a lesbian sister. He is Catholic but, apparently, does not show up at the local RC Church each Sunday like Rudd does. Tony's daughters and wife are NOT practising Catholics. Therefore, RUDD is the "religious" nut, not Abbott. ;)

Maybe Tony should grow his hair and effect a bit of "grey" in there so he is presumed to be "mature" but not "elderly" as Howard became.

In the long run, Kevvi from Brizzie is trying to make it a Hollywood event. Kissing kids, patting disabled people on the head, smooching dogs and blah blah. Bogans love it.

God Help Australia!

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Re: Integration not Multiculti

Post by Rorschach » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:21 pm

Both Rudd and Abbott and their parties support Multiculti...
How does a racially homogeneous country like Japan manage to have high-quality education without the essential ingredient of diversity, for which there is supposedly a “compelling” need? Conversely, why does India, one of the most diverse nations on Earth, have a record of intergroup intolerance and lethal violence today that is worse than that in the days of our Jim Crow South?
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Re: Integration not Multiculti

Post by Neferti » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:23 pm

Rorschach wrote:Both Rudd and Abbott and their parties support Multiculti...
How does a racially homogeneous country like Japan manage to have high-quality education without the essential ingredient of diversity, for which there is supposedly a “compelling” need? Conversely, why does India, one of the most diverse nations on Earth, have a record of intergroup intolerance and lethal violence today that is worse than that in the days of our Jim Crow South?
Yes, I noticed Tony saying something along those lines the other day. No idea what Rudd thinks, I tune out when I see his head anywhere online.

We have a multicultural "festival" here each year and about all that means is a variety of foods, perhaps some dancing in "national" costume. I have been a couple of times but only because a friend is Finnish and she loves that sort of thing.

There is a huge range of various nationalities in Canberra but they don't seem to congregate in little "pockets" in the 'burbs. As an example, in my street alone there are people from China, England, Chili, Austria, Russia and Sri Lanka, plus lots of Aussies. All nice people.

I have worked with people from American, Irish, Scottish, English, New Zealand, Bangladesh, China, Japan, Lebanon and several other countries ... all in the same work area. They mix in very well, actually ... they have to. Perhaps in large cities like Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, etc. they tend to congregate in their own little area more often? Not sure what happens in country towns.

They need to integrate and they seem to do that very well in Canberra at least.

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Re: Integration not Multiculti

Post by Rorschach » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:47 am

Strewth! Aussie workers told to cut the slang
* by: Natasha Bita National social editor
* From: News Limited Network
* August 11, 2013 12:00AM

AUSSIE workers have been urged to soften their strine and avoid traditional slang, in a Federal Government push to make workplaces more migrant friendly.

Bosses should stop calling migrants "ethnic" because it might be discriminatory - and instead use the politically correct term "CALD", or Culturally and Linguistically Diverse. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :huh

Casual swearing should also be avoided, as it may appear provocative or aggressive. :roll: :WTF

Despite Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's penchant for obscure Aussie colloquialisms, the Immigration Department is frowning upon strine and slang in the workplace, in a new guide for employers.

Business groups have criticised the advice, one policy analyst dismissing it as political correctness "writ large" that would achieve nothing.

The official document warns the Australian accent can baffle even English-speaking migrants, and tells bosses and workmates to speak slowly, clearly and simply. What about all the other bloody accents we Australians have to put up with...? Surely in our own country we can speak our own bloody language. :huh

"Remember some people, including native English speakers ... may have trouble understanding the Australian accent,'' the guide says.

"Keep in mind common Australian expressions may be misunderstood, for example, 'bring a plate', 'this machine is cactus' and 'he really spat the dummy that time'.

"For some people, casual swearing may also be seen as aggressive or provocative and new employees may not be sure how to respond.
Well they better acclimatise then

"If it appears your new employee is baffled by the sense of humour and the jokes of your other employees, have someone help them out.''
:roll:

The guide is accompanied by taxpayer-funded fact sheets on "Harmony in the Workplace'', prepared by the Federation of Ethnic Communities' Councils of Australia. Honestly how crazy is multiculti going to get?

Despite using "ethnic'' in its own title, FECCA says the word is "an illogical term with negative and potentially discriminatory connotations'' when used to describe individuals. here we go gee i wonder what political party over uses the word negative

It says migrants should not be referred to as "ethnic'', but as Culturally and Linguistically Diverse or CALD. You've got to be fcuking joking... :WTF

"Referring to someone as an 'ethnic' is not acceptable, given its assumptions and stereotypes, and connotations between the term and other racial slurs such as 'wog', 'chink' and other discriminatory labels,'' its fact sheet states.
:WTF

Centre for Independent Studies policy analyst Alexander Philipatos, who has a Greek background, said the guide appeared to be a well-intentioned waste of money.

"My initial reaction is it is political correctness writ large,'' he said. Whoever came up with this needs to be booted... immediately.

"I think it's well intentioned, but personally I don't think it's going to do anything and is probably a bit of a waste of money."

FECCA president Pino Migliorino questioned the Prime Minister's use of obscure slang, such as "fair shake of the sauce bottle''.

"I think the Prime Minister is very interesting in his use of slang,'' he said. "It doesn't make it right.'' The PM wouldn't know how to use slang properly if his life depended on it.

Mr Migliorino said the guide was "not trying to be politically correct, but to give a sense of what's meaningful''.

The Harmony in the Workplace guide says Australian culture can seem "alien'' to migrants - including "Edna Everidge, pavlova, fish and chips, Australian Rules football, the summer barbecue and drinks after work''. Well of course it would be "alien" to migrants just as they are "alien" to us :roll:

It tells bosses that migrants are "entitled to wear religious dress at work unless it creates a safety hazard''. :roll:

"If items of clothing cover the face you can ask an employee to show their face for reasonable identification purposes,'' it states. please don't tell me this is all about Muslims...

ACCI director of employment Jenny Lambert said bosses were entitled to set dress standards and make staff wear uniforms.

"There is no doubt employees can have uniform codes, although many workers may also wear a turban if the employer says it's OK,'' she said.

The Harmony in the Workplace guide also explains that some migrant workers will need time off work for prayer. MUSLIMS!!!

"Some cultures prioritise family commitments that may, at times, conflict with work commitments,'' it says.

Australian Industry Group spokesman Mark Goodsell said employers had to juggle giving special treatment to some workers while being fair to everyone.

"All cultures will say they prioritise family commitments, people with young families prioritise kids,'' he said.

"At what point does recognising an individual's needs create problems with the workers you're not recognising?''

Australian Retailers Association executive director Russell Zimmerman said employees who asked for time off for non-Christian religious festivals should not be paid penalty rates for working through Easter or Christmas. Multiculturalism is a farce...

"There's got to be give and take,'' he said.


Mr Zimmerman said retailers had the right to insist on a certain "look'' or dress code from shop assistants, so long as the clothing was provided free.

Brisbane businessman David Goodwin, who chairs the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry productivity board, said workers would "struggle to get jobs'' if they did not try to fit into a workplace.

"You can't run your business accommodating every single staff member's specific needs,'' he said.

Multicultural Affairs Minister Kate Lundy launched the "harmony'' guide and fact sheets last week. Lundy is proving to be a complete idiot like the rest of her playmates...

One in four Australian workers was born overseas, and 17 per cent hail from non-English speaking countries.

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AUSSIE WORKPLACE TRANSLATION

Sickie - day off sick

Bludger - lazy person

Flat out - busy

Offsider - assistant

Stoked - pleased

Stuffed - tired

Compo - compensation

Smoko - coffee break

Hard yakka - hard work

Arvo - afternoon

Cuppa - a cup of tea or coffee

She'll be right - it will be OK

You bewdy - excellent

Cactus - broken

Fair dinkum - true

Spit the dummy - get upset

Give it a burl - try it

Knock - criticise

Bring a plate - of food to share new to me could have been rhyming slang for bring a mate (china plate)

Mate's rate - discount for friends

No worries - everything's OK

Tee up - set up an appointment
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Re: Integration not Multiculti

Post by Neferti » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:10 am

:rofl :rofl Nobody will take any notice of that "direction". Migrants should learn how to swear, just like the rest of us. :rofl :rofl

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Re: Integration not Multiculti

Post by Rorschach » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:27 am

Bad enough this comes up when labor is in imagine what would happen if ever The Greens were in power.
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