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Who doesn't give a Gonski?

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:53 am

Gonski himself
... the author of the landmark report driving the changes, David Gonski, made a rare public statement criticising the cuts to the higher education sector that will help fund the schools plan.
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Re: Who doesn't give a Gonski?

Post by Rorschach » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:00 am

University Education Funding... GONeSKI
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Re: Who doesn't give a Gonski?

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Re: Who doesn't give a Gonski?

Post by Rorschach » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:47 am

David Gonski criticises Labor's school funding reform and questions major cuts to tertiary funding
* by: Sarah Blake
* From: News Limited Network
* April 15, 2013 12:00AM

THE Federal Government is warning of further budget cuts to fund school reforms, while the man behind the plan has criticised how it is being paid for.

In a rare public statement, businessman David Gonski, who chaired the review on which Labor is basing its reforms and is also chancellor of the University of NSW, questioned major cuts to tertiary funding.


The Gillard Government on the weekend announced it would funnel $2.8 billion from universities toward a $14.5 billion boost to school funding.

Last night Mr Gonski said he wasn't asked to consider how the review panel's recommendations could be paid for, declaring: "I fervently believe in and will continue to advocate that increases be made in funding the university sector."

STATES OPPOSE FUNDING MODEL

The Federal Government yesterday offered to double every dollar the states spent to fund its National Plan for School Improvement, which the Prime Minister says is needed to place Australian students in the top five internationally by 2025.

Every primary student in Australia would receive base funding of $9271, with $12,193 for high school pupils under the new School Resourcing Standard, which the Government wants fully implemented by 2019.

This figure was calculated on what it would cost to raise 80 per cent of students above the national minimum standards for literacy and numeracy.

State schools would remain publicly funded and Government support for students at independent and Catholic schools be calculated against their parents' capacity to contribute.

The Government would also pay a loading above this figure for children meeting six categories of disadvantage - those from low socio-economic status, indigenous heritage, small and remote schools, limited English and disabled students.

The new funding would see an average of $1.5 million to each school, or an extra $4000 per student, with $12 billion going to state schools and the remainder to independent and Catholic schools.

"It's a lot of money,
but I believe it is a wise investment in our children's future and our nation's future," Prime Minister Gillard said. And where is it coming from Julia. Another you promise and the states have to pay?

The Federal Government would pay 65 per cent of the increase, or $9.4 billion, in return for the states paying the remaining $5.1 billion, committing to no more education funding cuts and agreeing to 3 per cent indexation.

However conservative states have been unwilling to agree to the reforms, and Western Australia Premier Colin Barnett yesterday said they would mean a 25 per cent cut in funding to school students in his state.

"I would have to be nuts to sign up to something like that," he said.

The Prime Minister warned the states needed to agree to her plan by June 30 or they would have their current federal funding maintained, at levels that were decreasing each year due to indexation. Blackmail PM?

"The alternative is to have the old Howard Government model so you would actually go backwards in money, backwards by $5.4 billion," she said. ooh not the Howard scare again... you are in government PM it is your model whether you change it or not.

Federal opposition education spokesman Christopher Pyne said the announced increase actually amounted to just $600 million a year, because the Government had already cut its education spend and was diverting funding from defunct programs.

"Labor has announced cuts to universities and other programme changes, with funding delays and broken promises, which are worth at least $11 billion over the same period," Mr Pyne said.

"This means that Labor has effectively announced a $1.6 billion cut to education funding over the next six years - they will save $11 billion and spend $9.4 billion."

Mr Pyne indicated the Opposition would not block legislation to make the proposed cuts to university funding.

"We will not be saving the sector from Opposition," Mr Pyne said.

"We can't just block every cut the Government announces to save the various sectors that are being burnt."

It is understood the Coalition is unwilling to state its intention regarding that legislation on the record before Friday's COAG meeting. Sensible and understandable...

And despite the Gillard Government still reeling from the fallout over its botched changes to superannuation tax and the outcry over tertiary education cuts, Labor frontbencher Anthony Albanese yesterday confirmed there was more pain to come. :pope

When asked on Ten's Meet the Press whether the university cuts were enough to fund the Government's school reform, Mr Albanese said: "There will be further cuts announced in the Budget in May.

"The ERC (expenditure review committee) is working very hard to make sure that we can create the space for this reform.'
The coalition responds to the new schools funding plan.

'Independent schools yesterday welcomed the release of the funding model yesterday but said further negotiation was needed.

"We are worried about the volatility of the loadings, because the base is now much lower than it was before, under the current model, and so schools are very reliant on these loadings," said Dr Geoffrey Newcombe, executive director of the Association of Independent Schools of NSW.

"They depend upon the student profile of the school and we have to be careful this volatility doesn't cause uncertainty with funding over a period of time."

The Greens were critical of the tertiary cuts but urged the state's to agree to the funding changes in order to legislation was in place before the September election. Well there's the motivation eh... the election.

"Labor needs to urgently re-think the drastic cuts to higher education. It is robbing Peter to pay Paul and it is a direct result of the Government's failure to fix the mining tax," Senator Penny Wright said.

"We can fix our schools without robbing our universities if Labor only has the political courage to stand up to the big miners." :roll: So according to the Greens it's the miner's fault. :roll:
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Re: Who doesn't give a Gonski?

Post by Mattus » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:20 am

The $2 billion dollar looting of university education to pay for Gonski is an utter disgrace. It is in stark contrast to the government's own target of 40% of Australians to hold a bachelor degree by Rudd's 2020, and the reccomendations of the government's own Bradley Review which require a 10% increase in funding to meet. Not surprisingly this government has implemented all of the governance, oversight and reporting requirements of Bradley, with none of the resources to meet them.

University graduates are already some $26 billion in debt to he HELP scheme, so increases to their contributions for education does not seem to be a viable strategy.

Each tv ad where the government crows about the extra money they are giving to the unemployed and the single mothers is a kick in the teeth for those of us with jobs. each tv ad full of brat kids bragging about their nbn network speeds for playing call of duty is a nut shot for those of us in in areas where they haven't even scheduled the roll out. As if these weren't enough of an indicator of this government's disconnect from the real world we now have this most bizzare act of felony.

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Re: Who doesn't give a Gonski?

Post by mantra » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:12 am

At one time we had free university education, but the conservatives, after they'd had a free ride to obtain their chosen professions, turned around and condemned Whitlam forever ensuring their kids would be indebted for their education.
University graduates are already some $26 billion in debt to he HELP scheme
They were some $20 billion dollars in debt 25 years ago and it increased under the Howard government where universities were stripped to the bone and only the wealthy national and international students were assured of a tertiary education.

A modest adjustment was made on projected funding. What is the point of making university accessible to our youth - if they haven't had the early education to pursue it?
"Labor has invested more than $43.2 billion in core university funding from 2008 to 2011.

"From 2012 to 2015 we will invest a further $58.9 billion-more than double the level of funding under the last four years of the Howard Government.

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Re: Who doesn't give a Gonski?

Post by mellie » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:46 am

For only one brief shining moment, from 1974 to 1988, was university education free. Otherwise access has always been governed by fees, tempered until 1974 by Commonwealth and state scholarships, and since 1989 by an income-contingent loan scheme.

So Australian students and their families have usually paid for university education. Since the introduction of HECS under Minister John Dawkins, the cost of attending a public university in Australia has increased sharply. OECD comparisons place Australia among the most expensive nations in which to attend university.1
OECD coverage is heavily weighted toward Europe, where free higher education, or access with only modest contributions, remains common. With the exception of Ireland, the English-speaking world tends to higher fees for a university education. Consider average tuition fees in Australia, Canada, England, New Zealand and the United States. What students actually pay can vary between courses and institutions, but across the English-speaking world, Australia imposes mid-range fees, with our average just slightly above the average of these five countries.


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Alas, let us not forget the 'left's' outrageous and compulsory student union fees gouging the already empty pockets of our starving uni students living out of op-shops and on instant noodles.


I don't believe tertiary education should be free, though think it could be more affordable.

Compulsory student union fees are the big killer, (well were when I was at uni) as they couldn't be HECS deferred unlike our course fees. The 'Guild' wanted their union fees straight up and if we didn't pay, we didn't get our timetables, lecture and course notes, lab manuals, work books etc.

In other words, the 'left' were the big gougers when I was studying at USYD, back in the early 2000's.



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Re: Who doesn't give a Gonski?

Post by mellie » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:52 am

IQS.RLOW wrote:Gonski himself
... the author of the landmark report driving the changes, David Gonski, made a rare public statement criticising the cuts to the higher education sector that will help fund the schools plan.

What did you expect from a Nazi Jew?
It's so typical of Keatonion elitism, whereby only the the wealthy may afford a tertiary education, the rest, 'the proles' may sweep gutters for a living instead.

Our prince of darkness would be so proud.

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Re: Who doesn't give a Gonski?

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:02 am

Our children and their education from primary through to university are all suffering because of Gillards border protection. So far $5bn and that not counting the extra resources that add up along the way.

The Greens and ALP: Making your kids suffer while we drown theirs.
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Re: Who doesn't give a Gonski?

Post by mellie » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:17 am

IQS.RLOW wrote:Our children and their education from primary through to university are all suffering because of Gillards border protection. So far $5bn and that not counting the extra resources that add up along the way.

The Greens and ALP: Making your kids suffer while we drown theirs.

It's a leading export of ours, and as such .... our Australian students are forced to compete within an increasingly competitive sector for spots.


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