Abbott government!! A mistake we'll regret

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While the stuttering donkey Abbott is running around with his mates tearing this government to shreds - some of you need to look at his promises with clear eyes.

Yesterday I heard him skiting to Ray Hadley that he would immediately get rid of 12,000 useless public servants. How will those 12,000 workers feel after hearing that? The interview was immediately cut.

He also told the wealthy re superannuation "I'll let you keep your money". Very tempting - pity they only comprise 30% of voters, but Abbott's trying to appeal to those with influence. The remaining 70% without influence won't know what's hit them if he gets voted in.

The proposed tax on superannuation for those earning more than $250,000 hasn't been explained properly. To put it simply....

Currently the bottom 30 per cent of income earners receive 1.2 per cent of the total value of super concessions in 2009-10, whereas the top 1 per cent received a 9 per cent share.

Instead of trying to prop up those on low incomes - the aim is to bring taxes back into line again in a proportionate way. The Coalition will abolish means testing and let the top 10% stay on the top rung - regardless of whether they got there fairly or not.

This government wants more people enabled to become self funded retirees and this is a good thing because it's forward thinking. Our children will benefit in the long term if they're given half a chance. They certainly weren't under Workchoices.

Now there is growing worry from both sides of the political spectrum about a burnt out Abbott government and for good reason.

What was so good about Howard's team towards the end of his reign? Can the Coalition yahoos answer that? Howard might have been a hard taskmaster and whipped his team to burnout, but is Abbott capable of reviving them to the point where they can function adequately?

Which brings us to the one pledge he has made that he must break - to keep the same frontbench team he has now if he wins.

His first obligation is to abolish the carbon tax or the mining tax, although if he fails to do that, he will poison his prime ministership as surely as Julia Gillard has poisoned hers. His first obligation is to provide the best possible administration.

He has pledged to restore cabinet rule, which is laudable, but if he keeps the same line-up, fails to fortify his economics team and fails to promote talented people, people more capable of making the right calls as well as giving him the best advice, he and his new government will get into trouble. Count on it.

Abbott will make mistakes, everybody does. He will also lapse and say silly things, but the potential for errors will be minimised if he accepts his first loyalty is to the people, not his old mates from the Howard years.

Instead of describing the new Gillard line-up as C-class, Abbott keeps saying it is L-plated. This is to draw a distinction between them and his team, which he boasts is studded with experienced Howard government ministers. Here's a news flash. Some of them were not that good.

Kevin Andrews, one of Abbott's best buddies, rides bikes better than he runs portfolios.

Admittedly industrial relations minister in charge of Work Choices was a hard gig, but he transcended none of its difficulties, and as immigration minister he presided over the disastrous Mohamed Haneef case. Then, displaying a lethal combination of arrogance and ignorance, he and his office bridled when experienced staff in the prime minister's office tried to help out.

Gillard has the faceless men, Abbott has the nameless.-


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion ... 6611975893

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I'll try to ignore all your inane name calling and bias mantra. It's the oppositions job to hold government to account... even if your usual exaggeration of the facts expresses that in ridiculous terms.

Government is too big. Getting rid of the Climate Commissioner and the Commission itself will save us heaps of money just being wasted on a useless bureacracy.

The latest Super tax whist I don't mind it because it doesn't affect me and will in most cases hardly affect most of those taxed, will not raise much at all so the question is why bother with it in the first place. I note Labor has hit single mothers much harder. How does taxing Super (and Labor have made 9 changes I think), enable people to be self-funded in retirement.

There is no Workchoices and in fact Kevin Andrews was with Abbott the only 2 people in Cabinet to go against Workchoices mantra.

How can an Abbott government be burnt out when they are chomping at the bit to get into government. There is more talent and experience in the Libs and Nats than in Labor currently and that should be obvious to even the most rusted-on.

I'm gonna ignore your Howard obsession... Howard isn't in politics anymore mantra... wake up!

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I'm gonna ignore your Howard obsession... Howard isn't in politics anymore mantra... wake up!

John Howard is Abbott's mentor and puppeteer. You can't deny that and you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Abbott's proposed cabinet will be exactly the same as they were under Howard, but this time without any energy or enthusiasm. Get realistic and stop believing everything Porky Akerman says.

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I'm gonna ignore your Howard obsession... Howard isn't in politics anymore mantra... wake up!

John Howard is Abbott's mentor and puppeteer. You can't deny that and you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Abbott's proposed cabinet will be exactly the same as they were under Howard, but this time without any energy or enthusiasm. Get realistic and stop believing everything Porky Akerman says.

bullshit....

I have just read in THE AGE a piece on Abbott by a lefty that refutes such a claim. One of the rare points he makes that is correct BTW.

Sigh.... me and piers aint buddies mantra you idiot

Do fcuk off... please... like black orchid I've had enough of your hypocrisy and lies.

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Tony Abbott has tried to tap into the nostalgia for the "golden age" of his political mentor John Howard, but it is cynical tactics they share, not leadership ability, writes Jim Chalmers.

...

Most objective observers would agree that in terms of temperament, judgement and leadership ability, the younger man falls well short of the older. But it nonetheless suits Abbott's tactics to attach himself to the last Liberal prime minister, rhetorically if not substantively.

Abbott himself would proudly perform this dog-whistling, interference-running function for Howard. And in the first three years of his own leadership of the Liberal Party, Abbott did the job for himself; witness the disgraceful apogee of this strategy when he replicated Alan Jones' "died of shame" language in the Parliament after the passing of Julia Gillard's adored father John.

But now as Abbott seeks to attract as little controversy as possible, we're seeing the revival of the Howard strategy of contracting out the controversy. Cory Bernardi has become a favourite of Abbott and the extreme right for his enthusiastic performance of this task, whether for equating gay marriage with bestiality or for his comments about the PM's personal life choices, or the burka.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4555922.html

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Thank goodness one Shadow Minister from the Coalition has the guts to speak his mind. Perhaps others will follow. Abbott's aggressive stance on resurrecting all the policies which lost the Coalition the election in 2007 will not help him win this time around.

Abbott's climate change policy is bullshit says Malcolm Turnbull.

It is not possible to criticise the new Coalition policy on climate change because it does not exist. Mr Abbott apparently knows what he is against, but not what he is for.

Second, as we are being blunt, the fact is that Tony and the people who put him in his job do not want to do anything about climate change. They do not believe in human caused global warming. As Tony observed on one occasion "climate change is crap" or if you consider his mentor, Senator Minchin, the world is not warming, its cooling and the climate change issue is part of a vast left wing conspiracy to deindustrialise the world.

Now politics is about conviction and a commitment to carry out those convictions. The Liberal Party is currently led by people whose conviction on climate change is that it is "crap" and you don't need to do anything about it. Any policy that is announced will simply be a con, an environmental figleaf to cover a determination to do nothing. After all, as Nick Minchin observed, in his view the majority of the Party Room do not believe in human caused global warming at all. I disagree with that assessment, but many people in the community will be excused for thinking the leadership ballot proved him right.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/ ... z2PSTiYyMs

Do fcuk off... please... like black orchid I've had enough of your hypocrisy and lies.

No-one gives a stuff what you and Madge think. When you both learn to construct a sentence without expletives - perhaps I might take some notice. Until then - STFU unless you've got something constructive to say.

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Geez Howard was a great PM.

What an absolute statesman and someone Aussie could be proud of to lead our country instead of the piss and wind moaners from the left bending over backwards to appeal to the minority Greens while they steal a proportion of the ALP's base vote.

Just look at the two alternatives the left have given us
Julia Gillard= piss and wind moaner who screeches man-hate, lies and smear while covering up embezzlement and her union ratbag thug underlings.

Christine Milne= Fingernails down a blackboard complete fucking nutcase who would destroy Australia and her batshit crazy communist loving Marxist revisionists with a propensity for anarchy to try and fufil fucked up moobat idealogy

Abbott will be a PM the likes of Howard, Menzies and other great and proud statesman leaders

The sooner the better. Canberra is a joke with the lunatics in charge of the asylum.


PS- No one gives a shit about Climate Change anymore. It's a dead issue raised only by the moonbats

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Gee mantra next you'll need a time machine to find those cherries you need to pick. Turnbull.... still wanting to be PM, still bitter about how he lost the spill. He'll get over it... I doubt you'll ever get over your bias and ignorance though.

No-one gives a stuff what you and Madge think. When you both learn to construct a sentence without expletives - perhaps I might take some notice. Until then - STFU unless you've got something constructive to say.

Gee why would anyone call you a hypocrite or a liar?

You need to reign in your behaviour and stop stalking and lying about others and all those fcking insults you don't remember posting apparently. You get what you deserve mantra...

ABc Unleashed....

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Speakin' of mistakes mantra....
no need to read it, you've already been told... back to hypocrisy, lies and denial with you.

Mistake to move single parents onto dole, says former minister
April 4, 2013 - 1:37PM
Jonathan Swan
National political reporter


Kim Carr's claims that the government botched welfare changes has stirred support from a Senate colleague and surprise from the Shadow Minister.

The decision to move thousands of single mothers onto the Newstart allowance, reducing their incomes, was a mistake that compromised Labor values, according to Rudd supporter and Labor senator Kim Carr.

Senator Carr is the latest Rudd supporter to publicly criticise a government decision after last month's failed leadership spill.

As Human Services Minister at the time, Senator Carr was forced to sell a policy he now reveals he was deeply uncomfortable with.

Senator Carr told Fairfax Media on Thursday that Labor needed to ''learn the lessons from the experience in England where the Tories are attempting to smash the welfare state''. He said the Coalition would do the same in Australia and that it was up to Labor to protect the most vulnerable.

''There is a real difference between never getting a payment and losing it. That difference is particularly real for families on low incomes,'' he wrote in an opinion piece for a News Ltd paper.

The Department of Human Services was given ''no time to communicate the change''.

Single parents lost their parenting payments when their youngest child turned eight, while partnered parents lose it when their youngest turns six, effectively shaving $100 from their weekly income.

When the dole changes took effect in January, Families Minister Jenny Macklin ignited a debate over their fairness when she told journalists she could live on the Newstart allowance of about $35-a-day. She later apologised for the "insensitive" remark.

A Labor senator with extensive experience in the welfare sector has backed Kim Carr's comments. Queensland Senator Claire Moore spent 14 years working in the old department of social security before her political career.

Says she ''absolutely'' understands the anger of parents forced onto the less generous Newstart allowance.

"All you've got to do is talk to people who work in the area who daily deal with people who are struggling to live on a welfare payment,'' Senator Moore said. But that's ok it's in the name of Swan and Gillard's attempt to scrounge a surplus.

"The Newstart payment, the single parent payment - all those that come under the heading of benefit - just are not keeping pace with the cost of living and the expenses in our community and that's right across Australia." carbon tax any one. real competition policies anyone. Green/renewable energy projects anyone. all add to the cost of living.

Senator Moore says she also agrees with Kim Carr's push to have the Human Services Minister included in federal cabinet.

Senator Carr's policy criticism comes a day after another Rudd supporter, Ed Husic, publicly criticised the Gillard government's decision to spend more than $20 million funding the Disney film 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

Mr Husic, whose western Sydney seat is under threat in an election year, said the money could be better spent on more urgent needs such as an MRI machine in the Mount Druitt Hospital.

Labor's most contentious policy issue at the moment – expected changes to superannuation, particularly increasing taxes on high earners – has been fanned by criticisms from two other Rudd supporters, Simon Crean and Martin Ferguson. Both sacrificed their positions in cabinet during the leadership spill.

Mr Crean warned Ms Gillard that increasing taxes on superannuation could trash the Hawke-Keating legacy and Mr Ferguson, the former resources minister, urged Treasurer Wayne Swan and Ms Gillard to end their ''class war rhetoric''.

Other Labor MPs have removed or reduced party branding from their communications material five months out from the election.

Chris Bowen, another Rudd supporter who resigned from cabinet, has been campaigning in his western Sydney electorate of McMahon holding a bright orange sign without even a Labor Party logo – simply saying ''Chris Bowen, local leadership''.

Mr Bowen's website is coloured the same orange as the local AFL team the Greater Western Sydney Giants, and his homepage bares only the tiniest thumbnail of a Labor Party logo, which is dwarfed by a team logo for the Giants.

Education Minister Peter Garrett, who supports Ms Gillard, avoided Labor Party branding in a flyer distributed to his constituents. Mr Garrett denied to News Limited that he was trying to disassociate himself from the Labor brand.

with Tim Lester

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politi ... z2PSbct29o" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Labor should be ashamed of themselves they are likely the most incompetent government in our history. Inexperienced, dumb, progressives, clueless when it comes to planning and implementation and bereft of any real talent.

Bring on a government of grownups who have experience and common sense. I'm sick of the childishness and stupidity of this government.

prime example



how could anyone vote for people like this?
Gillard has just promoted him and given him more responsibility...

[mellie]

While the stuttering donkey Abbott is running around with his mates tearing this government to shreds - some of you need to look at his promises with clear eyes.

Yesterday I heard him skiting to Ray Hadley that he would immediately get rid of 12,000 useless public servants. How will those 12,000 workers feel after hearing that? The interview was immediately cut.

He also told the wealthy re superannuation "I'll let you keep your money". Very tempting - pity they only comprise 30% of voters, but Abbott's trying to appeal to those with influence. The remaining 70% without influence won't know what's hit them if he gets voted in.

The proposed tax on superannuation for those earning more than $250,000 hasn't been explained properly. To put it simply....

Currently the bottom 30 per cent of income earners receive 1.2 per cent of the total value of super concessions in 2009-10, whereas the top 1 per cent received a 9 per cent share.

Instead of trying to prop up those on low incomes - the aim is to bring taxes back into line again in a proportionate way. The Coalition will abolish means testing and let the top 10% stay on the top rung - regardless of whether they got there fairly or not.

This government wants more people enabled to become self funded retirees and this is a good thing because it's forward thinking. Our children will benefit in the long term if they're given half a chance. They certainly weren't under Workchoices.

Now there is growing worry from both sides of the political spectrum about a burnt out Abbott government and for good reason.

What was so good about Howard's team towards the end of his reign? Can the Coalition yahoos answer that? Howard might have been a hard taskmaster and whipped his team to burnout, but is Abbott capable of reviving them to the point where they can function adequately?

Which brings us to the one pledge he has made that he must break - to keep the same frontbench team he has now if he wins.

His first obligation is to abolish the carbon tax or the mining tax, although if he fails to do that, he will poison his prime ministership as surely as Julia Gillard has poisoned hers. His first obligation is to provide the best possible administration.

He has pledged to restore cabinet rule, which is laudable, but if he keeps the same line-up, fails to fortify his economics team and fails to promote talented people, people more capable of making the right calls as well as giving him the best advice, he and his new government will get into trouble. Count on it.

Abbott will make mistakes, everybody does. He will also lapse and say silly things, but the potential for errors will be minimised if he accepts his first loyalty is to the people, not his old mates from the Howard years.

Instead of describing the new Gillard line-up as C-class, Abbott keeps saying it is L-plated. This is to draw a distinction between them and his team, which he boasts is studded with experienced Howard government ministers. Here's a news flash. Some of them were not that good.

Kevin Andrews, one of Abbott's best buddies, rides bikes better than he runs portfolios.

Admittedly industrial relations minister in charge of Work Choices was a hard gig, but he transcended none of its difficulties, and as immigration minister he presided over the disastrous Mohamed Haneef case. Then, displaying a lethal combination of arrogance and ignorance, he and his office bridled when experienced staff in the prime minister's office tried to help out.

Gillard has the faceless men, Abbott has the nameless.-


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion ... 6611975893

Abbott is as grassroots and for Australians sovereignty as we are ever likely to get other than Pauline Hanson herself, who btw will be voting for Abbott again this election.
His stammer aside, he's the best chance we've got.
He's all we've got.

Can you suggest an alternative genuinely operating in the best interests of our nation?

I know this is not what you wanted to hear Mantra, but it's a fact you need to come to terms with.

I purchased this book online today...

http://www.gwb.com.au/murder.html

Looks to be a decent read.


Are you familiar with the Marketing consultant lawyer and author Graham L. Strachan Mantra?

It's not often I stumble across someones work and agree with them entirely, and cant fault it in some way.

I will let you know when and if I do.

He's right on the mark.... it's a good feeling knowing I'm not the only one who's arrived at the same conclusions I have...after years of pissing it in the wind here on PA where it seemingly falls on deaf ears.

Mantra, if you could just cast aside your contempt for Tony Abbott ...you might realise he is not the enemy your Greens have you convinced he is.

While you are focusing on semantics, the trivialities of domestic political scuttlebutt and Lib-Lab muckraking, something more sinister is happening.

If you don't get it by now, you probably never will.

http://www.gwb.com.au/2000/daily.html

Click on regular columnists... (note, the site has not been updated for a while)... and note who they are.

Have you read this?

http://www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/economic/