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The Royal Commission into Child Abuse

Post by mellie » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:58 am

The Royal Commission, announced in November last year, will feature a special unit to investigate allegations of abuse and will be overseen by six commissioners, led by Justice Peter McClellan.

The six commissioners are: Justice Peter McClellan, Robert Atkinson, Justice Jennifer Coate, Robert Fitzgerald, Professor Helen Milroy and Andrew Murray.

The royal commission will focus on cases of institutional sexual abuse and not on cases of sexual abuse within the family. Child abuse that was not sexual, such as neglect or physical mistreatment, will not be examined as part of this royal commission, the Prime Minister Julia Gillard said today.

The Royal Commission will deliver its interim report by June 30 next year and is expected to hand over its final report by December 31, 2015 but Ms Gillard said that date can be extended if needed.

The commission will not have powers to prosecute.

http://theconversation.edu.au/royal-com ... pond-11555

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Re: The Royal Commission into Child Abuse

Post by mellie » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:26 pm

Last November, Tony Abbott hit back at Julia Gillard's misogyny attack, declaring he would never invoke a gender war against his political opponents.

This said, I think his ethic will extend to her obvious attack of his church also.

What Gillard wants is for Tony Abbott to react adversely, wants him to feel victimised and threatened as she now targets the man and his faith.
She declared war on his gender, now she's attacking his church, it's as sinister and sick as that.

Best let die a natural death as far as I'm concerned. We all know this commission is nothing short of a fast anyway.

I just think it's atrocious that Labor would launch a royal commission for sinister political purposes in the lead up to a federal election.

How much will this cost tax-payers again?

And will victims benefit?

Gillard has ruled out any 'family' abuse inquiries, ie, if the abuse happened in 'the family' due to gross systemic/government department incompetence/negligence, such as that surrounding DOCS , and their workers for having delivered victims into the hands of paedophiles ...then it's case closed!

You see, Gillard has been quite specific (some might argue 'picky') with respects to what will form the basis of a Royal Commission into child sex abuse.

My feeling on this is why do it in half doses, why not make use of the Royal Commissions reach this and allow it to be more broad?

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Re: The Royal Commission into Child Abuse

Post by mantra » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:08 pm

You conveniently forgot to mention that O'Farrell - a Liberal premier is also launching an inquiry into the Catholic Church child sex cover up, albeit reluctantly possibly because of pressure from Abbott. Do you believe this is also an attempt to sabotage Abbott and his beloved faith?

If Abbott had an ounce of moral decency - he would be welcoming these inquiries.

The Libs and their supporters won't get any gold stars for condoning the actions of the Church and their paedophile priests.
The senior police officer alleging widespread cover-ups by the Catholic church over child sexual abuse has labelled the response by the state government as a "slap in the face" for victims.

NSW Premier Barry O’Farrell on Friday announced a special commission of inquiry into police investigations of alleged paedophile priests in the Hunter region.

The inquiry will be into allegations of cover-ups and church interference in police investigations, which were raised in a letter to the Premier by Detective Chief Inspector Peter Fox.

Earlier on Friday afternoon, Mr O'Farrell announced the inquiry would be headed by the NSW Deputy Senior Crown Prosecutor, Margaret Cunneen, SC.

''These matters have been raised by a senior serving officer and deserve to be fully investigated,'' Mr O'Farrell said.

''I believe a special commission of inquiry is the most appropriate way to do it.''
NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell

Mr O'Farrell said he would discuss draft terms of reference for the inquiry with Ms Cunneen.

He said he expected the inquiry would focus on the Hunter region, but that he would be guided by Ms Cunneen as to whether the inquiry needed to be broader.

Both the opposition and the NSW Greens said the inquiry should be far-reaching.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/premier- ... ex-coverup-

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Re: The Royal Commission into Child Abuse

Post by mellie » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:17 pm

mantra wrote:You forgot to mention that O'Farrell - a Liberal premier is also launching an inquiry into the Catholic Church child sex cover up, albeit reluctantly possibly because of pressure from Abbott. Do you believe this is also an attempt to sabotage Abbott and his beloved faith?

If Abbott had an ounce of moral decency - he would be welcoming these inquiries.

The Libs and their supporters won't get any gold stars for condoning the actions of the paedophile priests.
The senior police officer alleging widespread cover-ups by the Catholic church over child sexual abuse has labelled the response by the state government as a "slap in the face" for victims.

NSW Premier Barry O’Farrell on Friday announced a special commission of inquiry into police investigations of alleged paedophile priests in the Hunter region.

The inquiry will be into allegations of cover-ups and church interference in police investigations, which were raised in a letter to the Premier by Detective Chief Inspector Peter Fox.

Earlier on Friday afternoon, Mr O'Farrell announced the inquiry would be headed by the NSW Deputy Senior Crown Prosecutor, Margaret Cunneen, SC.

''These matters have been raised by a senior serving officer and deserve to be fully investigated,'' Mr O'Farrell said.

''I believe a special commission of inquiry is the most appropriate way to do it.''
NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell

Mr O'Farrell said he would discuss draft terms of reference for the inquiry with Ms Cunneen.

He said he expected the inquiry would focus on the Hunter region, but that he would be guided by Ms Cunneen as to whether the inquiry needed to be broader.

Both the opposition and the NSW Greens said the inquiry should be far-reaching.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nation ... urn false;

Then why have they denoted importance and emphasis on the Catholic church, when institutional abuse is quite rampant across the sectoral spectrum?

Christian schools, Muslim schools, Jewish schools, assorted sects and even cults.

Why does it appear to be more rampant in some more than others?

Possibly because there are more of a certain denominations churches and schools to begin with, thus increasing the stats when it comes to a certain church.

But if you were to delve into it case by case per capita, this and put the figures in perspective, I think you will find it occurs right across the institutional spectrum.

For example Mantra... heres a mini IQ test for you...

Whilst we may only hear of 10 cases of child sex abuse occurring in 'Sect A', (lets call them the Banjo's) which has a following of 100 members, and hear of 100 cases of child sexual abuse occurring in sect B,(Lets call them the Wanjos) which has a following of 2000 members, ...which sect has the highest rate of sexual abuse?

A) Banjos
or
B) Wanjos


:roll


Then there's the prospect of some 'sects' being less likely to report abuse....

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Re: The Royal Commission into Child Abuse

Post by mantra » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:39 pm

Child sex abuse isn't more widespread in other religions here in Australia or we'd hear more about it. Occasionally something comes up eg. child abuse in Jewish schools more recently, but few adults who were abused as children have come forward and said so - aside from Catholics.

Someone has to bring the paedophiles to account and if Abbott becomes PM - could you see him requesting an inquiry into the secrets of the Catholic church?

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Re: The Royal Commission into Child Abuse

Post by mellie » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:47 pm

mantra wrote:Child sex abuse isn't more widespread in other religions here in Australia or we'd hear more about it. Occasionally something comes up eg. child abuse in Jewish schools more recently, but few adults who were abused as children have come forward and said so - aside from Catholics.

Someone has to bring the paedophiles to account and if Abbott becomes PM - could you see him requesting an inquiry into the secrets of the Catholic church?

Well, I can see Liberals Catholic Tony Abbott being more inclined to follow through with an enquiry than Labors next leader Catholic Bill Shorten.
Federal Government Minister Bill Shorten says he is not convinced a national investigation is the answer.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-09/g ... ms/4362970


Tony Abbott actually supports the Royal Commission into sex abuse, only stipulated that it be as broad and far reaching as possible, meaning it should delve into all religious groups sex abuse cases.

Sound fair?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/ch ... 6515004476


So there you go...

Liberals leader = For

Labors next leader and faceless GIllard/Rudd puppeteer = Against

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Re: The Royal Commission into Child Abuse

Post by boxy » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:50 pm

Only two days ago you started a thread making the same stupid allegation that this is some plot to personally target Abbott.

What the fuck are you on? It's targeting institutionalised paedophilia. Unless you're suggesting that Tone is involved in that, or is keen to help in a cover up, then you're just making shit up, because you can't bring yourself to believe that Julie is actually doing something worthwhile.

You're a sad case, Melbart.
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Re: The Royal Commission into Child Abuse

Post by boxy » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:52 pm

mellie wrote:Tony Abbott actually supports the Royal Commission into sex abuse, only stipulated that it be as broad and far reaching as possible, meaning it should delve into all religious groups sex abuse cases.

Sound fair?
Good, then it's all sorted out then. Everyone is in agreement, and you can drop the big conspiracy theory, that it's all a plot to "get shorty" :roll:
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Re: The Royal Commission into Child Abuse

Post by mellie » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:57 pm

boxy wrote:Only two days ago you started a thread making the same stupid allegation that this is some plot to personally target Abbott.

What the fuck are you on? It's targeting institutionalised paedophilia. Unless you're suggesting that Tone is involved in that, or is keen to help in a cover up, then you're just making shit up, because you can't bring yourself to believe that Julie is actually doing something worthwhile.

You're a sad case, Melbart.

I think the obvious speaks for itself Boxy, when it's clear, a Gillard lead Royal Commission wants to denote more emphasis on the Catholic faith, for obvious reasons in the lead-up to an election, whereas the coalition and the Greens wants this Royal commission to be more inclusive of other religious groups and private/public institutions, organisations and departments.

Tell me, why is it that Labors leader-in-waiting Catholic Bill Shorten doesn't feel a national enquiry is necessary at this stage?

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Re: The Royal Commission into Child Abuse

Post by mellie » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:02 pm

Perhaps you should read this then Boxy..

http://www.smh.com.au/national/hockey-s ... 293k9.html


It seems, not all from both sides of politics are happy with a Royal Commission.

8-)

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