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Gillard claws back popularity

Post by mantra » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:08 am

Has this got anything to do with the taste of the Coalition we're experiencing in the states? O'Farrell, although appearing at first to be benign is making some harsh changes to NSW and is quickly catching up with Newman in Queensland with extremely devastating cuts - to hospital and education, changes to slack mining laws ensuring they're even slacker, proposing increases to the GST, open slather hunting ie ferals hunting native animals, opening up uranium mining, coal mining and more.

The opposition has worked hard to denigrate Labor from the moment they came to office - but the nastier they get, the less effective they become in selling themselves. What do they stand for? We don't know because it appears Abbott hasn't been told. He seems to have lost perspective of any vision he's meant to have.

Gillard might be unpopular and make a lot of mistakes - but she has a strength that Abbott lacks. If the Coalition get back into government next year - we can look forward to more of the same devastation currently being enacted in the states.

Could the opposition possibly be worse than Labor? Yes!
LABOR has clawed back the Coalition's huge lead to be deadlocked at 50 per cent each in two-party preferred terms, according to the latest Newspoll.

It is the first time the parties have been level since March last year when Julia Gillard announced plans for a carbon tax.

The latest Newspoll, published in The Australian today, will set back the hopes of Kevin Rudd's supporters that poor polling could see him replace Ms Gillard as prime minister.

Labor's primary vote is up three points to 36 per cent - the highest level since March 2011 and just shy of the 38 per cent level from the 2010 election.

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Re: Gillard claws back popularity

Post by Rorschach » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:20 am

ROTFLMAO

Hoisting your colours to the mast a bit early there mantra.
Could the opposition possibly be worse than Labor? Yes!
How about you list why then for starters.
I note Gillard previously had a bounce for one poll, I wouldn't be getting too happy about this one either.
Has this got anything to do with the taste of the Coalition we're experiencing in the states? O'Farrell, although appearing at first to be benign is making some harsh changes to NSW and is quickly catching up with Newman in Queensland with extremely devastating cuts - to hospital and education, changes to slack mining laws ensuring they're even slacker, proposing increases to the GST, open slather hunting ie ferals hunting native animals, opening up uranium mining, coal mining and more.
How soon we forget.
We all know the states were in a huge mess due to over a decade of Labor.
Are there other ways to fix the states?
I don't know, but I do know something must be done and doing nothing is not an option.
The opposition has worked hard to denigrate Labor from the moment they came to office - but the nastier they get, the less effective they become in selling themselves. What do they stand for? We don't know because it appears Abbott hasn't been told. He seems to have lost perspective of any vision he's meant to have.
You're sounding an awful lot like Monk mantra. I suggest you look at the Liberal and National Party sites.
Gillard might be unpopular and make a lot of mistakes - but she has a strength that Abbott lacks. Well that's just bullshit. If the Coalition get back into government next year - we can look forward to more of the same devastation currently being enacted in the states.


Hate to tell you, but the states aren't being devastated. Feel free to post proof.
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Re: Gillard claws back popularity

Post by Rorschach » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:59 pm

Another Left Wing Progressive disguised as a Journalist. Gonna have the same thoughts mantra has no doubt.

Political bias alert... gonna use this to mark them from now on... :purple
PM's fightback is built on carbon
September 17, 2012
Michael Gordon

ANALYSIS :rofl

THE story behind the story of Julia Gillard's dogged fightback is the price on carbon.
Just as her, and Labor's, fall in the polls can be traced back to her announcement of the tax early last year, the still modest recovery is mostly about what has happened - and hasn't happened - since the tax came in on July 1.

The same can be said for Tony Abbott's transition from an unpopular opposition leader to a very unpopular opposition leader. He needed - and needs - much more to be assured of victory this time next year than undiluted negativity. :purple

Ignore the spin suggesting a sympathy vote for Gillard after the death of her father, a backlash against Abbott over ''the punch'' he insists was never thrown, and a rebuke for Kevin Rudd for making mischief by, heaven forbid, giving an interview to the ABC.

The trend of the Age/Nielsen polls for more than three months has been a steady improvement in Labor's primary vote (from 28 to 34 percentage points) and Gillard's approval (from 36 to 42); and a rise in Abbott's disapproval (from 56 to 59). :purple Yet it has gone up and down in various polls and no doubt will continue to. At the moment it is up.

Gillard's net approval rating - the approval rating less the disapproval rating - is now just minus-11, after being consistently above minus-20 in the lead-up to the carbon price being introduced. Abbott's net rating is now minus-23. Pointless figures

Labor's two-party-preferred deficit (47-53) is no longer in the diabolical territory that it was mid-year, with the result that Labor MPs don't feel compelled to consider admitting they got it wrong when they re-elected Gillard earlier this year.

In truth, it is not an unusual position for a government that has made some big mistakes but has a positive agenda :purple 12 months out from a poll - a position that may be helped by unpopular decisions being taken by Coalition governments in the eastern states. ta da... mantras position revisited.

The election is still Abbott's to lose, and the carbon price is still a weapon, but his negative ratings must now be a worry for the Coalition. The history of unpopular opposition leaders whose parties had a primary vote ascendancy - such as Alexander Downer in July 1994 and John Hewson in August 1993 - isn't one to inspire confidence. :purple He forgot to mention John Howard.

So whose position would you rather be in? As Nielsen's John Stirton put it last night: Malcolm Turnbull is popular with his support rising; Kevin Rudd is popular with his support falling; Julia Gillard is unpopular with her support rising; and Tony Abbott is unpopular with his support falling. Rudd remains the nation's most popular leader, why? but the finding that he could reverse the two-party-preferred result invites scepticism because he isn't in the job - and because Labor voters want to stick with Gillard. Rusted-ons

The qualification, of course, is that the story of Australian politics in recent years has been one of unanticipated outcomes. Malcolm Turnbull might be the people's choice for Liberal leader now, why? but guess whose negative approval rating peaked in August 2009 at minus-29 - 6 percentage points worse than Abbott's is now? Ummmm... Malcolm's? The Labor Party's preferred Liberal leader. :rofl
Honestly why do they even bother?

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Re: Gillard claws back popularity

Post by Rorschach » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:53 pm

This is probably one of the more balanced articles on the current polling figures.
(Political bias alert) :purple
The less of these the better the article.
Labor views 'positive' polls with caution
* From: AAP
* September 17, 2012 10:55AM

FEDERAL Labor is treating two new polls showing a jump in support for the government with caution.

The latest Newspoll, published in The Australian on Monday, has Labor and the coalition sharing the two-party preferred vote at 50 per cent each.

The Nielsen poll, published in Fairfax newspapers, has the coalition holding a six-point lead - down two points from its August sounding.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard's standing with voters improved in both polls and she has a clear lead over Opposition Leader Tony Abbott in Newspoll.

Foreign Minister Bob Carr says he thinks everyone on the Labor side is treating the polls with some caution.

"Polls spike and dip all the time," he told ABC television.

"The trend line is happier than it has been in recent months but we won't be reacting to it beyond saying that."

Fellow cabinet minister Craig Emerson was just as reserved, describing the results as encouraging.

But he did say the polls appeared to reflect the government's positive agenda and the coalition's negative approach. :purple

Voters also had been given a preview of an Abbott government by the cost-cutting approach of Liberal state administrations, Dr Emerson said. :purple

Liberal frontbencher Christopher Pyne blamed a Labor campaign of personal denigration and vilification of Mr Abbott for a drop in voter support for the coalition and the opposition leader. Now that's just a tad simplistic.

"The Labor party has spent the last two weeks and the better part of the last few months demonising Tony Abbott," he told ABC television, likening it to a similar campaign against Queensland LNP leader Campbell Newman before the state election earlier this year.

"They want to destroy his character."

Mr Pyne said Mr Abbott was the most experienced "would-be prime minister" in history.

"Unfortunately, with the Labor party, when they have their backs to the wall and they've tried everything else, they eventually turn to the chum bucket," Mr Pyne said.

If Mr Abbott felt troubled by the personal attention, Australian Greens leader Christine Milne had some handy words of advice: release some policy.

Australians still had no idea how he planned to plug the coalition's "$70 billion budget black hole", she said. But Christine it was only $70B for a couple of weeks before even Labor whittled it down to $11B. And as we all know the financial situation is completely fluid.

"Tony Abbott hasn't put out a single policy, not one," Senator Milne told reporters in Canberra. :purple

"So if he's not prepared to say exactly what he'll do, then people have a right to say 'well, who are you? :purple

"'What do you stand for and what could we expect from you?'" :purple

Independent senator Nick Xenophon welcomed the latest results, which he partly attributed to the ease with which the carbon tax was introduced.

"We finally have a competition," he told reporters, adding it was a good thing for democracy. But maybe not for the country in the end Nick.

"It'll keep both parties on their toes and (there'll be) more accountability all round." We hope.

Nationals senator John Williams said the results were an unsurprising side-effect of tough state government spending cuts in NSW and Queensland.

"When you're making budget cuts like (Queensland premier) Campbell Newman and (NSW premier) Barry O'Farrell have had to do, then of course you're going to be unpopular," he said.

"But of course, they'll pick up."

Senator Williams also noted Labor's jump in the polls came on the back of big pledges for disability insurance funding and education reforms.

"It's easy to promise the world," he said.
Lest we forget those eh.

He defended Mr Abbott as a "darn good bloke" who shouldn't be condemned for what he may or may not have done at university 35 years ago.

"I mean, fair dinkum. As Barnaby Joyce said over the weekend at the Nationals conference: 'Who cares?'"

Labor MP Andrew Leigh said you may as well toss a coin as pay attention to the opinion polls, which were "all over the place".

"What we are getting is an incredibly noisy inactive indicator driving far too much commentary in Australian politics," he told reporters.

"These polls are fairy floss and they are rotting the teeth of this place."

Mr Pyne said Mr Leigh was an academic and polls were the daily fare of journalists and politicians need to respond to them.

Asked if the Nielsen poll, which shows twice as many voters prefer Malcolm Turnbull to Mr Abbott, would prompt any leadership tensions, he said: "Absolutely not."

The coalition was "100 per cent locked in" behind Mr Abbott, who would lead them to the next election. Time will tell.

"When Malcolm Turnbull was leader you might remember that when he exited the leadership he was deeply unpopular and again he had been the subject of a demonisation campaign by the Labor party." And he put his foot in it several times. No wonder Labor love him.

Deputy opposition leader Julie Bishop said Labor had waged a ferocious and bitter campaign to assassinate Mr Abbott's character. Surely not Julie, all the negativity comes fro Abbott and the liberals. Doesn't it? :huh

The Tony Abbott she knew was one of compassion and kindness, who volunteered on Saturday to do a controlled burn with the fire brigade and on Sunday ran as a guide in a marathon for a blind man, she said. You have to admit that even if you believe Abbott was OTT when he was young, he is not that person now. How can any reasonable person see this as a negative? Unless they are personally biased or rusted-on, right mantra?

Mr Abbott had the support of the coalition party room.

"Malcolm Turnbull is a former leader, he is making a great contribution, as are a number of our colleagues and we will hold this government to account for its wasted spending, its incompetence, its backflips and the fact that it is making promises it can't deliver," Ms Bishop said.
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Re: Gillard claws back popularity

Post by Rorschach » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:47 pm

Oh dear wasn't much of a claw back was it.
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