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Right-tard vs Left-tard

Post by Super Nova » Tue May 29, 2012 4:27 pm

I thought I understood right wing vs left wing leanings but after seeing this diagram I was a little confussed.

I thought Hitler was very right wing however this diagram indicates Bush was more right wing.

Can someone enlighten me as to why they would think Hitler was in the middle ground?
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Re: Right-tard vs Left-tard

Post by Super Nova » Tue May 29, 2012 4:30 pm

I took the time to do some research on it (more of a quick look around the net) and now realise I knew very little of it's meaning and it's history.


Source of diagram: http://www.hypocrites.org.uk/

This explaination was the simplist I found.
Left-Wing or Right-Wing politics or the Left-Right political spectrum is a one dimensional spectrum used to classify political parties, political positions, or political ideologies.
To explain the difference between the two it’s easier to compare and contrast the positions taken by the far left and the far right. Be aware that many people’s political beliefs are on a continuum between left and right.
A brief way to describe the difference would be to say that left wingers believe the country is more important than the individual, and right wingers believe that the individual is more important than the country.
That analogy is semi-true. Left wingers believe that governments are a force for social justice and change, and so should intervene in individual’s lives to ensure social justice is achieved. Right wingers believe that governments are big and unwieldy and so should not interfere with people’s lives at all. They believe that government interference contravenes an individual’s right to liberty.
For this reason left wingers have traditionally favoured ‘big’ government while right wingers favoured ‘small’ government.
Right wingers believe in formal equality. They believe that everyone should be treated equally under the law and should be treated equally by government. Examples of right wing formal equality include equal pay for equal work and civil and political rights.
Left wingers believe in substantial equality. They argue that not every individual is the same and so government policy should be aimed to create substantial rather than just formal equality. Examples of left wing substantial equality includes affirmative action and social and cultural rights.

Wiki explaination: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80 ... t_politics

The bloody French again.
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Re: Right-tard vs Left-tard

Post by Super Nova » Tue May 29, 2012 5:08 pm

Also,

Why do be have the pattern that I have observed over my lifetime of a cycle of:

Conservative/Liberal (Right) Party's manage the finances and ecconomy better.
Sometimes even generating surplus'.
Population then vote in a labor government and they screw up the ecconomy, over spend and borrow.
Shit hits the fan.
Concervative/Liberal get back in to do the hard work and hard decision that become unpopular.
Recover ecconomy.
Than the left get back in again.

WTF is this all about.
Why does it happen.
As voters are we stupid or just bloody selfish.

If the lefties place the nation ahead of the individual, why do they vote in government that will in the long term hurt the ecconomy therefore hurting the country on the promise that individuals will get a better handout.
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Re: Right-tard vs Left-tard

Post by Neferti » Tue May 29, 2012 6:57 pm

This is AUSTRALIA ........ not Britain. We do you slowly. :bgrin

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Re: Right-tard vs Left-tard

Post by Super Nova » Tue May 29, 2012 7:34 pm

I would have thought Australia was lucky to have the Liberal Party in during the boom so there is something there now for the Labor to spend during the global downturn. I know there is little downturn in Australia relative to the rest of the west, is this helped by the Liberal parties more conservative policies during the good times?
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Re: Right-tard vs Left-tard

Post by Neferti » Tue May 29, 2012 9:18 pm

Super Nova wrote:I would have thought Australia was lucky to have the Liberal Party in during the boom so there is something there now for the Labor to spend during the global downturn. I know there is little downturn in Australia relative to the rest of the west, is this helped by the Liberal parties more conservative policies during the good times?
Right! Liberals SAVE money when in power/Labour spends it when they get in. As far as I recall for a very long time, LIFE is better under a Liberal Government.

Look at it from a personal point of view. You work your butt off and the kids (teenagers plus) waste what you earn on stupid crap. You love your kids but ........ they will eventually move away and get married or whatever ..... when will you stop supporting your 30+ year old kids who still live at home because they always thought YOU should support them so the haven't bothered to get a life for themselves.

Rods for Backs comes to mind.

Those who are able to care for themselves are Liberal voters. Those who can't get off their mother's tit vote ALP. those who still hate Howard will vote Green. :rofl

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Re: Right-tard vs Left-tard

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Wed May 30, 2012 2:16 am

I like to think of "conservatism" as the glue that holds a society together. Germany, India and Japan are all conservative societies but all very different. In that sense we are all conservatives because no one really wants society to fall apart.

"Liberals" tend to think that outside forces as causing misery while "conservatives" tend to blame the individual.

It is silliness not to take into account both interior and exterior factors which obviates the whole left/right argument.

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Re: Right-tard vs Left-tard

Post by Neferti » Wed May 30, 2012 9:50 pm

I can guarantee that I am NOT conservative. :Hi

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Re: Right-tard vs Left-tard

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Wed May 30, 2012 11:28 pm

Neferti~ wrote:I can guarantee that I am NOT conservative. :Hi
By what definition?


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