Is Nauru going to be good enough for the refugees?

[Jovial Monk]

ASs being processed in the Regional Processing Centre would be allowed to work by the Malaysian govt and have some other rights too, education and health IIRC. That would be settled by the Agreement between the Australian and Malaysian govt. UNHCR was happy with the deal, just a couple of people in the refugee industry here got the HC to ban the movement of ASs from Christmass Is to Malaysia.

[Jovial Monk]

TPVs were dreadful things, typical of Howard.

A AS on a TPV was not entitled to have his family, wife and kiddies, be flown here as part of the family reunion program. So after they were introduced in 1999 increasingly women and children were on the boats that set out from Indo.

I remember the TV coverage of the Tampa. Doubtless you can easily Google it up. You will see the people sitting on the deck of the Tampa, women and their kids sitting on the deck of the Tampa.

OK, going for a while. The stupid is getting too much.

[Rorschach]

Now just hang on a minute.

There is no Regional Processing Centre in Malaysia.
Malaysia is not a signatory to the UN Convention.
Malaysia has never agreed with becoming a Regional Processing Centre.
Gillard's malaysia Solution was about swapping 800 Asylum Seekers for 4000 Refugees from Malaysia.

So just what are you raving on about JM?

BTW Black Orchid was right you loon. Seems to me you are more than a little confused about these issues.

Why don't you try to stop mouthing the Labor propaganda and stick to the facts that might help.

[Rorschach]

oh and TPVs are a bloody good idea.

[Maxine]

2. Refugees--displacement and durable solutions during the year
Category 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004
Arrivals
Prima facie/group basis - - - - - - - - - -
Individually recognized* 1,197 2,002 1,533 3,090 1,812 4,607 4,092 1,718 615 1,461
Resettlement 15,412 11,100 7,816 12,558 8,398 7,330 6,659 9,172 11,855 15,967
Durable solutions
Voluntary repatriation** 51 54 - 1 3,450 870 - 292 111 10

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Knock yourself out!

[Rorschach]

i'd say both.

[lisa jones]

Do you know what FMD means,Monk? How appropriate that you use the term.

FMD => Foot & Mouth Disease

For those who may not know ..

[mantra]

The refugees who are sent to Nauru could make a go of it if they wanted to - especially with the new $2 million kitchen. Fresh food is being flown in there regularly. Many of them would know how to cook and it would keep them occupied for a while at least if they volunteered to help. It seems though that most of them are too sick to contribute to a community and the mental health facilities aren't good enough. Is the health and dental system in Australia coping with the needs of its own citizens? It appears to be collapsing with the weight of illness in our quickly increasing population, yet we're now going to have to find more health professionals to look after the refugees. It's their right of course, but can we realistically look after such large numbers of desperate and sick people?

How much cash were the Sri Lankans given to depart so willingly? Perhaps this is the only effective and economical way to deal with asylum seekers. Howard did the same to those Afghani's who went home.

It appears that a lot of obstacles are being put in the way of sending refugees to Nauru. I don't remember this occurring under the Coalition - but perhaps we just didn't know about it.

THE head of health services in Nauru has asked that women and children asylum seekers not be sent to the tiny Pacific island, and has revealed that Nauru would be unable to cope with any mental health issues experienced by the detainees.

Setareki Vatucawaqa, Nauru's acting health secretary, also revealed the Australian army was helping to refurbish one of the wards at the island's 70-bed hospital so it could be used to treat asylum seekers.

But once refurbished, the ward will only have between four and 12 beds, and it is unclear whether that will be enough to deal with the overflow of a camp slated for a maximum population of 1500.

''The position of the government of Nauru, which we've made known to the Australian government, is that while it is still a tent city, that we perhaps restrict [arrivals] to the men until more comfortable accommodation is provided,'' Dr Vatucawaqa said.

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[Rorschach]

Like we were saying before... Arab Muslims are a problem.
Do they pass the character test? NO!!!

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Send them back!

But Bowen says...

THE claims of three asylum-seekers put in a police lock-up after unrest on Nauru won't be adversely affected, says Immigration Minister Chris Bowen.

Bulls#it. What is wrong with these people?

[mantra]

Nauru is sticking the thumb screws in and want $90 million for processing refugees. Although they claim this covers 1500 people - it still works out at $60,000 per person - not the $3,000 as spruiked. This cost doesn't take into consideration all the other contract staff up there supervising the refugees. Travel, food, medical, dental and housing are also on a separate tab.

I can't see this stopping. Abbott is going to be in the same predicament. Although it's difficult to know whether some of the asylum seekers are genuine or not - it's as if looking after them has become a priority over our very existence. Some Australians can barely keep a roof over their heads due to the escalating cost of living - what little is left goes to making those from other nations comfortable. It's becoming a downward spiral towards poverty.

Too many sacrifices are being made to ensure that we look generous and prosperous on the world circuit and that we have a money tree. What a cover up.

THE tiny nation of Nauru is demanding Australia pay up to $90 million over five years in special payments as "insurance" against the cost of housing up to 1500 asylum seekers.

A spokesman for the government of the Pacific island nation of fewer than 10,000 people said the $3000-per-migrant payment was being introduced to help pay for the cost of running the offshore processing centre, which currently has 383 detainees.

The plan was condemned by the Greens while Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said the costs could have been "avoided" if government had not unwound the Coalition's border-protection policies in 2008.

The Gillard government was forced to reopen Manus Island in PNG and Nauru as it sought to stem the flow of unauthorised boat arrivals - which yesterday reached 475 since August 2008, with the arrival of another vessel carrying 26 people on board. On Monday, Treasurer Wayne Swan revealed a $1.2 billion blow-out in immigration costs as part of the government's mid-year economic and budget forecasts. The costs of the processing centre on Manus Island was estimated at more than $1 billion alone.

However, as talks with Canberra continued on the details of the detention facility, the Nauru government last month passed legislation to allow it to impose a special $1000-a-month visa for asylum seekers sent to the island.

The move has incensed senior Immigration Department officials who were attempting to negotiate on the costs of housing up to 1500 asylum seekers.

The new visa category, known as an Australian regional processing visa, will cost $3000 for a three-month period, 30 times higher than the fee on other refugees.

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