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Re: Turnbull - good decisions

Post by mantra » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:15 pm

I wonder if Turnbull will give in to the diabetic woman. Where do we draw the line. Turnbull has got a job on his hands.

Dutton rules out transferring pregnant asylum seekers from Nauru to Australia

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has ruled out transferring a group of pregnant asylum seekers from Nauru to Australia, despite the women reportedly refusing medical treatment.

It is understood that seven pregnant asylum seekers are refusing medical treatment on the island as they urge the Turnbull Government to bring them to Australia.

Mr Dutton said Australia helped pay for refurbishments at the Nauru hospital but he would not agree to transfer the women, telling 2GB the Government would not "be taken for mugs".

"The racket that's been going here is that people at the margins come to Australia from Nauru," he said.

"We can't send them back to Nauru and there are over 200 people in that category."

Mr Dutton said the Government had provided $11 million for a hospital within the regional processing centre as well as $26 million to help refurbish the Nauruan hospital.

He said transfers to the international hospital in Papua New Guinea were also available if sufficient treatment on Nauru was not available.

"If people believe that they're going to somehow try to blackmail us into an outcome to come to Australia by saying we're not going to have medical assistance," he said.

"We're not going to bend to that pressure. I believe very strongly that we need to take a firm stance."

Ian Rintoul from the Refugee Action Coalition voiced concerns for the women, stating that Nauru was not equipped to deal with complicated births.

"One of the asylum seeker women due to give birth has a diabetic pregnancy that Nauru cannot safely manage," he said in a statement.


"Every birth is a potentially a life-threatening situation for mother and baby. When there are complications the risk is even higher.

"The onus is on the Government to provide proper medical care for a safe birth."

Mr Dutton's comments come a day after he introduced legislation to tighten requirements for asylum seekers applying for protection.

If passed, he said the existence of a consistent pattern of mass violation of human rights would not meet the threshold.

People will also be denied protection if they could "take reasonable steps" to modify their behaviour, unless that behaviour was "fundamental" to their identity.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-15/p ... rs/6856708

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Re: Turnbull - good decisions

Post by Rorschach » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:28 pm

So what was Turnbull's good decision there mantra?
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Re: Turnbull - good decisions

Post by Neferti » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:37 pm

The Aussie Taxpayer has already spent lots of dollars on the Hospital to cater for this lot. From your above post.
Mr Dutton said the Government had provided $11 million for a hospital within the regional processing centre as well as $26 million to help refurbish the Nauruan hospital.
Good to see that Dutton is not going to be coerced. Bow to one and that's it ............ getting pregnant is NOT a way to get into Oz. :rofl
Mr Dutton said Australia helped pay for refurbishments at the Nauru hospital but he would not agree to transfer the women, telling 2GB the Government would not "be taken for mugs".

"The racket that's been going here is that people at the margins come to Australia from Nauru," he said.

"We can't send them back to Nauru and there are over 200 people in that category."
Good to see the Liberal policy is still intact. So far. Be warned Malcolm-in-the-middle.

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Re: Turnbull - good decisions

Post by mantra » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:45 pm

Rorschach wrote:So what was Turnbull's good decision there mantra?
Turnbull seems to be quiet on this issue. He hasn't been forced to make a decision yet and is letting Dutton do all the talking, but no doubt he'll have a lot of pressure put on him soon in regard to refugees and human rights. He's trying to stay neutral, but it's going to be hard.
Neferti~ wrote:Be warned Malcolm-in-the-middle
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Re: Turnbull - good decisions

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:32 pm

Assuming they became pregnant whilst already on Nauru they should have been well aware of the facilities that have been provided for them, at great cost. No doubt, much better than what would have been provided had they stayed home.

It's ridiculous how much money we are having to spend on refugees, specifically aimed crime squads, attempting to curb radicalisation etc etc etc. Never mind though, we will just pull the money to pay for it from either the pensioners or selling what we have left off to the Chinese :roll:

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Re: Turnbull - good decisions

Post by Rorschach » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:55 pm

I would however without hesitation, bring that girl who was raped and is pregnant here for an abortion since abortion is illegal on Nauru.

Oh and mantra like I said what Turnbull decision... :du :du :du
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Re: Turnbull - good decisions

Post by mantra » Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:11 am

Rorschach wrote:I would however without hesitation, bring that girl who was raped and is pregnant here for an abortion since abortion is illegal on Nauru.

Oh and mantra like I said what Turnbull decision... :du :du :du
It seems she wanted counselling first. Our health services aren't easily or quickly available to Australians and the average person has to go on a waiting list. She had the opportunity to be flown here at great expense and then the offer of an abortion. Not a great choice, but better than nothing. Was it a ploy - or was she really distressed? As there are similar situations here which are ignored - how can we give refugees everything they need?

Back to the Turnbull decision...it looks like he made a decision not to intervene. He's probably too busy trying to clean up the mess since Howard left office - including the Coalition's mess.

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Re: Turnbull - good decisions

Post by Rorschach » Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:56 am

More gobbledygook mantra?
Turnbull didn't make any decision.
next time you post to a topic make it relevant. :du
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Re: Turnbull - good decisions

Post by mantra » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:51 pm

Rorschach wrote:More gobbledygook mantra?
Turnbull didn't make any decision.
next time you post to a topic make it relevant. :du
Gobbledygook? I haven't seen you use that word before - so I'll pretend it's a compliment.

I'm not sure whether this is a good decision though. If the Kiwis get their deportation appeals sped up - then everyone else in detention will demand the same.
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has promised to speed up the appeals process for New Zealanders facing deportation from Australia, saying he is "empathetic" and "alert" to the country's concerns about the issue.

An average of one Kiwi is being deported a day under tough new immigration laws targeting foreign nationals who have served a year or more in prison.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-17/t ... ls/6862768

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Re: Turnbull - good decisions

Post by Neferti » Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:45 pm

gobbledygook
ˈɡɒb(ə)ldɪˌɡuːk,-ˌɡʊk/
nouninformal
noun: gobbledygook; noun: gobbledegook

language that is meaningless or is made unintelligible by excessive use of technical terms.
"reams of financial gobbledygook"
synonyms: jargon, unintelligible language, obscure language;

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