Does the world need to regulate whaling

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Re: Does the world need to regulate whaling

Post by mantra » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:24 am

Minke whales are still classified as endangered.
Wrong. Unless you are talking about ignorant hippies doing the classification
You're wrong FD and why does every argument go back to "ignorant hippies" - they were only around in the 60's. Minke whales have been protected by International Law since 1986. Norway and Japan are the only 2 nations arguing this law - and it's not hard to see why.

http://www.oceanlink.info/biodiversity/minke.html
The IWC announced how many whales could be taken in any year, however, populations continued to decline. In 1985-1986 a worldwide moratorium on whaling was put in place, banning all whaling. Norway, however, "took out a reservation", meaning that they could continue by IWC rules to legally hunt North Atlantic minke whales and, in 1993 and 1994, they killed several hundred. This has caused great dismay in other countries, including the U.K., who have officially objected to this hunt. In UK waters it is illegal to intentionally kill, injure, capture or harass any species of whale or dolphin. However, there is little in international law that can be done about hunting, except control of exports which is covered by CITES (the Convention for International Trade in Endangered Species).
It's about time we stood our ground and officially objected to this hunt also.
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I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and just assume she is fucking stupid
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Re: Does the world need to regulate whaling

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:25 am

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Those who were against the actions of the Sea Shepherd would be a minority.
You sure about that? Even Greenpeace is against them.
That's because Sea Shepherd believe in taking direct action, where as Greenpeace believe in putting on a show.

Paul Watson was one of the 5 or 6 original founding members of Greenpeace.
Watson supplied and skippered their 1st vessel.
Watson wanted to ram boats ect, and Greenpeace wanted to hang signs and paint pretty rainbows.
The other Greenpeace founders rejected Watson's style of direct action, so kicked him out and let him keep his boat.

Greenpeace's main problem with Sea Shepherd is competition for donations.

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Re: Does the world need to regulate whaling

Post by freediver » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:30 pm

Minke whales have been protected by International Law since 1986.
Mantra, do you understand the difference between endangered and protected by law? The Japanese are breaking no laws by taking them.

Do you still think Minkes are an endangered species? When answering, keep in mind what you said about ignorant hippies being extinct.

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Re: Does the world need to regulate whaling

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:02 pm

Great link Mantra :roll:
A student web page designed by Sarah Redding and Jody Shields
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http://www.itsnature.org/sea/aquatic-ma ... nke-whale/
Minke Whale is the smallest of baleen whales. This species is widespread all around the world, ranging from the polar waters to the tropical seas. What made this animal rather famous, was probably the TV show “Whale Wars”, where environmental activists fought against Japanese whale hunters. It should, however, be noted that Minke Whales are not endangered, nor is their population at risk, and hunting them has no severe effect on the population.
If you've got nothing to offer aside from insults - don't bother posting at all. You are a waste of space IQ and we can take that to a vote if you want.
Can we take it to a vote that you are fucking stupid?
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Re: Does the world need to regulate whaling

Post by mantra » Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:26 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:
Great link Mantra :roll:
A student web page designed by Sarah Redding and Jody Shields
:lol:


It appeared to be very thoroughly researched - you must have delved into the site to make that startling discovery. Minke whales are protected by International Law and there is still a lot of controversy over their numbers. The Japanese would argue that they are in abundance - yet marine biologists say otherwise. I'll delve a little deeper and find some more credible information on whether they're endangered.
Can we take it to a vote that you are fucking stupid?
You can as long as you include yourself - bet you'd win.

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Re: Does the world need to regulate whaling

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:18 pm

you must have delved into the site to make that startling discovery.
:roll: Yeah. I read the front page.

Maybe you didn't see it with all the drool on your computer?
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Re: Does the world need to regulate whaling

Post by freediver » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:04 pm

Minke whales are protected by International Law and there is still a lot of controversy over their numbers.
Is there any controversy over whether they are endangered, or just arguing over whether there are 800000 or 900000 of them?
yet marine biologists say otherwise
No they don't. Ignorant hippes say otherwise. Marine biologists check their facts.
I'll delve a little deeper and find some more credible information on whether they're endangered.
Try the IUCN.

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Re: Does the world need to regulate whaling

Post by mantra » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:36 am

freediver wrote:
Minke whales have been protected by International Law since 1986.
Mantra, do you understand the difference between endangered and protected by law? The Japanese are breaking no laws by taking them.

Do you still think Minkes are an endangered species? When answering, keep in mind what you said about ignorant hippies being extinct.
I do understand the difference and I did make a mistake, but I will state that the whole issue of Minke whales being endangered hasn't been determined - only by the Norwegions and Japanese and that's no surprise. Sporting hunters will always believe that if it moves - kill it, regardless of whether there's a purpose as long as there's either a commercial or pleasurable value to it.
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Maybe you didn't see it with all the drool on your computer?
IQ - this board did pick up for a while, but thanks to your inability to respond civilly it's going back to the way it was. If there is another election - part of the platform should be getting rid of you. You add no value whatsoever.

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Re: Does the world need to regulate whaling

Post by boxy » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:26 pm

Why the hell are you trying to equate this with sport hunting? :roll:
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Re: Does the world need to regulate whaling

Post by freediver » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:35 pm

but I will state that the whole issue of Minke whales being endangered hasn't been determined
You think the IUCN hasn't made up their mind yet? I think you are making another mistake mantra.
Sporting hunters will always believe that if it moves
What does whaling have to do with sport?

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