Radicalisation or Rubbish?

[freediver]

Being honest about Islam instead of constantly making excuses and distancing the violence of Muslims from the violence of Islam would be a good start.

[Super Nova]

Being honest about Islam instead of constantly making excuses and distancing the violence of Muslims from the violence of Islam would be a good start.

ISIS is not practicing Islam.... they are just trying to create a situation where they have power and if they are not stopped we will all suffer.

Time to step-up wiping them out.

Latest tragedy.............

Isis kills 30 Christians on Libyan beach



Islamic State militants in Libya have murdered as many as 30 Christians in two mass killings, recording both incidents in a lengthy propaganda video that threatens all “worshippers of the Cross” who refuse to convert to Islam.

The 29-minute piece, released online by al-Furqan, the media wing of the Isis terror group, orders Christians to convert to Islam and pay a historical extortion tax known as jizya, or face the consequences.

The high-quality footage opens with scenes of Isis fighters destroying Christian places of worship, graves and artwork in Iraq and elsewhere. It depicts a Christian mechanic and a doctor, who profess to have paid jizya and now live under the militant group’s protection in Raqqa and Aleppo in Syria.

The video then cuts to an English-speaking fighter in the south of Libya, flanked by comrades wielding machineguns who stand guard over a group of men in shackles identified as Ethiopian Coptic Christians. The masked fighter warns that those who refuse their demands will be killed.

“You will not have safety even in your dreams, until you embrace Islam,” the man says, brandishing a pistol. “Our battle is a battle between faith and blasphemy, between truth and falsehood.” The jihadists then shoot dead the kneeling captives.

The video moves on to a similarly brutal mass killing in eastern Libya, where Isis militants are seen marching another group of Ethiopian Christians, dressed in orange jumpsuits, down a beach, before forcing them to their knees and sawing off their heads.

It closes with a warning from a man with a Yemeni accent: “Those who convert to Islam are safe. Those who refuse, we don’t have anything for them but the sword.”

The video was released on the same day that the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Most Rev Justin Welby, was in Egypt to express his condolences” to Christians in Cairo over a similar mass-beheading of Copts by Isis fighters in Libya. That killing, in February, sparked outrage across the world and prompted Egypt to launch a series of airstrikes on militant positions in Libya.

The archbishop met President Sisi in a private meeting at which he is believed to have praised the Egyptian leader’s call for a “religious revolution” to combat extremist thought, and congratulated him on his role as a champion of moderate Islam.

The Archbishop then met Pope Tawadros II, the head of the Egyptian Coptic Church, and delivered letters of solidarity from the families of David Haines, the British aid worker killed by Isis last year, and John Cantlie, a British hostage who is still being held in Syria.

Later, he met Ahmed el-Tayeb, the grand imam of al-Azhar, to discuss strengthening ties between Sunni Islam and English mosques.

Isis attacks on Christians have grown rapidly in the past year. In Libya, the jihadist group has exploited the lawlessness spawned by civil war to create a foothold outside Syria and Iraq. The group — which has seized vast areas of territory in the east, west and south of the country — has released several videos using Libya’s close proximity to Europe to threaten the western Christian community.

Yesterday’s video was the first to feature two mass killings, and to demonstrate the power of the newly formed south Libya branch.

“The way they edited together the two murder scenes, that’s something we haven’t seen in Isis propaganda before, and it reflects a probable sense of ‘let’s do something new to ensure this isn’t just another beheading scene’,” said Charlie Winter, a researcher with Quilliam Foundation, the anti-extremism think-tank. “The main message here is about violence.”
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/worl ... 416389.ece

[Rorschach]

Being honest about Islam instead of constantly making excuses and distancing the violence of Muslims from the violence of Islam would be a good start.

ISIS is not practicing Islam.... they are just trying to create a situation where they have power and if they are not stopped we will all suffer.

Time to step-up wiping them out.

Latest tragedy.............

Isis kills 30 Christians on Libyan beach



Islamic State militants in Libya have murdered as many as 30 Christians in two mass killings, recording both incidents in a lengthy propaganda video that threatens all “worshippers of the Cross” who refuse to convert to Islam.

The 29-minute piece, released online by al-Furqan, the media wing of the Isis terror group, orders Christians to convert to Islam and pay a historical extortion tax known as jizya, or face the consequences.

The high-quality footage opens with scenes of Isis fighters destroying Christian places of worship, graves and artwork in Iraq and elsewhere. It depicts a Christian mechanic and a doctor, who profess to have paid jizya and now live under the militant group’s protection in Raqqa and Aleppo in Syria.

The video then cuts to an English-speaking fighter in the south of Libya, flanked by comrades wielding machineguns who stand guard over a group of men in shackles identified as Ethiopian Coptic Christians. The masked fighter warns that those who refuse their demands will be killed.

“You will not have safety even in your dreams, until you embrace Islam,” the man says, brandishing a pistol. “Our battle is a battle between faith and blasphemy, between truth and falsehood.” The jihadists then shoot dead the kneeling captives.

The video moves on to a similarly brutal mass killing in eastern Libya, where Isis militants are seen marching another group of Ethiopian Christians, dressed in orange jumpsuits, down a beach, before forcing them to their knees and sawing off their heads.

It closes with a warning from a man with a Yemeni accent: “Those who convert to Islam are safe. Those who refuse, we don’t have anything for them but the sword.”

The video was released on the same day that the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Most Rev Justin Welby, was in Egypt to express his condolences” to Christians in Cairo over a similar mass-beheading of Copts by Isis fighters in Libya. That killing, in February, sparked outrage across the world and prompted Egypt to launch a series of airstrikes on militant positions in Libya.

The archbishop met President Sisi in a private meeting at which he is believed to have praised the Egyptian leader’s call for a “religious revolution” to combat extremist thought, and congratulated him on his role as a champion of moderate Islam.

The Archbishop then met Pope Tawadros II, the head of the Egyptian Coptic Church, and delivered letters of solidarity from the families of David Haines, the British aid worker killed by Isis last year, and John Cantlie, a British hostage who is still being held in Syria.

Later, he met Ahmed el-Tayeb, the grand imam of al-Azhar, to discuss strengthening ties between Sunni Islam and English mosques.

Isis attacks on Christians have grown rapidly in the past year. In Libya, the jihadist group has exploited the lawlessness spawned by civil war to create a foothold outside Syria and Iraq. The group — which has seized vast areas of territory in the east, west and south of the country — has released several videos using Libya’s close proximity to Europe to threaten the western Christian community.

Yesterday’s video was the first to feature two mass killings, and to demonstrate the power of the newly formed south Libya branch.

“The way they edited together the two murder scenes, that’s something we haven’t seen in Isis propaganda before, and it reflects a probable sense of ‘let’s do something new to ensure this isn’t just another beheading scene’,” said Charlie Winter, a researcher with Quilliam Foundation, the anti-extremism think-tank. “The main message here is about violence.”
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/worl ... 416389.ece

Yet all their supporters and followers think they are following the teachings of Islam and it's goals.

[Black Orchid]

ISIS is not practicing Islam....

Really?

[mantra]

The orange suits look like hand me downs from Guantanamo Bay. There's a similarity except the religions are reversed.

[Rorschach]

Not all Americans are Christian... so what was your point?
Only in Islamic countries is the One religion mandatory.
Many yanks are atheists.
Isil/Isis/Daesh is a delusional cult.

[Rorschach]

Here we go again.... first the press gave no details, then there was some mysterious non-descript man, responsible then he became a radicalized Muslim Boy... apparently he's a Kurd... why would a Kurd be on ISIL's side?

This idiot kid was 15 yo.

Where did he get the gun from?

This is a MULTICULTURAL problem... lets not blame it on the "R' word yet again.

[mantra]

The gun could have come from his parents who might be paranoid about their past catching up with them. Who knows, but obviously the boy has been brought up in an unstable and probably aggressive environment. He could have been mentally ill or in a young gang who dared him to do this.

[Rorschach]

Or you could make up more excuses that deny the facts mantra...

[mantra]

Or you could make up more excuses that deny the facts mantra...

No-one knows for a fact yet why this boy did this. Like everyone else - I am only speculating - not making excuses. Pity you still don't know the difference between opinion and fact.