Coles says "No hormones in Beef"

[mantra]

Repeating your lies does not make them true

Which part of my post was a lie?

Farmers are deserting in droves whilst foreigners are scooping up the forsaken farms to feed their own nations.

[IQS.RLOW]

It would be quicker to point out which part of ALL your posts contain the truth

Below is an example of a post from you that contain truth

[quote="Mantra"][/quote]

[freediver]

You keep bringing that up mantra. People keep offering you perfectly sensible responses. You ignore them every single time.

It's only the second time I've brought it up - the first time in another thread. If you consider yourself as giving sensible responses - then you'd be wrong.

......and just keep repeating it.

Is that why you call yourself mantra?

Yes - so those who are thick can remember the message.

OK mantra, one last time. If we are starving, the fact that foreigners own the farms does not mean they can force us to let them export the food.

[mantra]

OK mantra, one last time. If we are starving, the fact that foreigners own the farms does not mean they can force us to let them export the food.

Did you fully read the article Frogen posted? You say that our government will stop all food exports in an emergency, but can they force ME & Asian corporations to do their bidding without creating bloodshed? The Food and Grocery Council seems to think that we're headed down a slippery slope. There has been a dramatic drop in exports - so it doesn't leave much wriggle room to feed our own nation, especially if imports are cut off in a crisis.

FD - your sneering does you no justice.

The Australian Food and Grocery Council's annual State of the Industry survey, due for release at the end of this month, will report that Australia is importing food at soaring levels, while our food and grocery export market stagnates.

Last year, the survey found Australia's food and grocery surplus had been whittled down from $4.5 billion in 2004-05 to just $150 million.

This year, the peak body will report that the industry -- which includes some personal care and medical products and excludes bulk grain and livestock -- will record a trade deficit for the first time since data was collected in 2003-04.

The council's chief executive, Kate Carnell, said Australia's position as a significant regional exporter of food was under threat from policies including a carbon tax, flagged cuts to water allocation and a strong dollar.

"Australia has traditionally had a significant trade surplus with regard to food, we've traditionally been a significant exporter, but what is happening is our exports are flat and our imports are increasing significantly. This is a real concern for Australia's food security," Ms Carnell said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 5936848356

[Sappho]

We actually should be reducing farm output by getting the US and EU to drop farming subsidies.

How should/ could we convince the US and EU to drop their farming subsidies. What incentives could we offer.

Mantra is right by the way...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/s ... 5953456109

[freediver]

Did you fully read the article Frogen posted?

Did you? Did you see my response to it? Did you see the absurdity of their claims?

You say that our government will stop all food exports in an emergency, but can they force ME & Asian corporations to do their bidding without creating bloodshed?

Mantra, the companies don't have to do their bidding. The government can just tell them to F off, in whatever the diplomatic term for that is.

The Food and Grocery Council seems to think that we're headed down a slippery slope.

That council has it's own agenda and is not afraid to use pure BS. They are the people who made the claim we are becoming a net food importer, by 'ignoring' most of our food exports.

There has been a dramatic drop in exports

So this means you haven't actually read the article?

so it doesn't leave much wriggle room to feed our own nation

Definitely not. Read it. Think about it. If that doesn't work, read the discussion we have already had about it.

Oh dear, I see you even quoted it in your post. Why didn't you read it first?

How should/ could we convince the US and EU to drop their farming subsidies. What incentives could we offer.

I think appealing to the people directly would be the best approach.

Mantra is right by the way...

So, you didn't read it either? And to think I even saw this coming:

You know Freebie, since I stopped caring about politics I stopped reading my own evidence.

It is glorious, like freeballing it or being in Congress.

You are not alone Frogen. But at least you admit it.

[Jovial Monk]

If you are worried about antibiotics in agriculture here is a new worry for you: NZ apples are sprayed with antibiotic to control fireblight and now NZ can export apples here, fucking stupid or what?

Forget supermarkets, buy organic food and visit farmers markets. Grow your own veges, keep your own chooks.

[Outlaw Yogi]

I hate chooks

[Jovial Monk]

Life must be tough when even chooks are smarter than you!

[Ethnic]

I love chooks. I have 4 of them. They create a lot of shit and that's why I named them all after Charles Sturt Councillors.