Fraudband

[Jovial_Monk]

Not out all that soon, and no one expects that speed in real life.

[Rorschach]

hahahahaha how little you know it'll probably be out before they finish the rollout.

[Jovial_Monk]

roach obviously knows nothing about IT.

[Super Nova]

Oh noes! How will monk transmit his hip replacement x-ray from his living room...his brain scan will take double the time to upload so his itchy nuts might miss a scratch!

Woe betide us all!

He will have trouble transmitting it but no trouble receiving it. Symmetry....

The above is Political discussion? Sounds more like the Vortex!

Copper cannot be made as symmetrical as fibre—VDSL takes so much frequency to download upload. Unless you use like 8 bonded, high quality pairs per premises and we rarely have one good quality pair here in Australia.

That's a bit unfair Monk. The politics behind this discussion is that I claim the government is wasting money around their strategy to implement technology. So technology is part of this debate as clearly you have embraced. Therefore your technical comments are open to challenge.

"Copper cannot be made as symmetrical as fibre—VDSL"

The key word in that sentence is "as". That is an incorrect statement. Transmission over copper can be fully symmetrical. I have hand written such a protocol over a single twisted pair.

" takes so much frequency to download upload." Don't understand that statement.

"Unless you use like 8 bonded, high quality pairs per premises and we rarely have one good quality pair here in Australia". Yes, the better the quality the less lose and interference so you can have a higher transition rate. The point was about Symmetry.

[Jovial_Monk]

But we would have to run all that copper from nodes to premises. It is nonsense! Much less symmetrical, much less bandwidth, any advance in copper brings disadvantage elsewhere. And even brand new copper corrodes.

Copper has had its day, fibre is better, cheaper, can be upgraded almost indefinitely and does not corrode, being made of glass.

Why keep bullshitting about copper? The copper here is ratshit, barely capable of transmitting voice, can’t do that after rain in increasing areas.

Do it once, do it right, do it with fibre.

[Aussie]

Do it once, do it right, do it with fibre.

I don't understand all the technical stuff but I do recognize that, and add.......'while it is cheaper than it will be later.'

[Super Nova]

But we would have to run all that copper from nodes to premises. It is nonsense! Much less symmetrical, much less bandwidth, any advance in copper brings disadvantage elsewhere. And even brand new copper corrodes.

Copper has had its day, fibre is better, cheaper, can be upgraded almost indefinitely and does not corrode, being made of glass.

Why keep bullshitting about copper? The copper here is ratshit, barely capable of transmitting voice, can’t do that after rain in increasing areas.

Do it once, do it right, do it with fibre.

You are the one that started trying to sound knowledgeable with you it's not symmetrical statement. That was bullshit. I am not promoting copper. I was just addressing your bullshit argument.

It appears you don't know so much about IT. So consider that before you speak BS.

[IQS.RLOW]

Do it once, do it right, do it with fibre.

I don't understand all the technical stuff but I do recognize that, and add.......'while it is cheaper than it will be later.'

Then STFU because its obvious you know nothing about everything

[Jovial_Monk]

I read enough to know I am right. And the copper is crap.

Then there are the power requirements for anything with copper in it, esp FTTN. Horrendous. Turncoat has accepted that basically #Fraudband costs as much as FTTH given high copper maintenance (and initial fortune wasted remediating and re-running copper) and power. That tells me he is not serious, that #Fraudband is just there to get the Libs over the line 14/9 when all broadband work will be stopped and forgotten about—Libs want austerity not nation building.

[IQS.RLOW]

It has managed fine until the ALP got involved.
Perhaps it's their fault too?

Everything they touch turns to crap...