Researching Tony Abbott

[boxy]

Roachy is tossing up whether to vote for the Libs, the Nats or FF. A true swing voter

[Super Nova]

"Won't be made up till the election day."

That's a worry. So you make up your mind only at the last moment.

Is that because you vote for personalities rather than policies?

[IQS.RLOW]

The personalities are already out there and have been for years. Only the rusted ons use the stumbles and sound bites as ammo.

The policies are the last to be released because Labor are reknowned for stealing them

[Super Nova]

The personalities are already out there and have been for years. Only the rusted ons use the stumbles and sound bites as ammo.

The policies are the last to be released because Labor are reknowned for stealing them

But the come out before election day.

[Rorschach]

Roachy is tossing up whether to vote for the Libs, the Nats or FF. A true swing voter

Just so you know poxy.... I doubt it'll be FF and I doubt there will be a Nat in my seat.

Why don't the rest of you and I include you Arsie... be as honest and forthcoming as me?

SN... what if it's really close policy wise (we don't know yet do we?) and you have to choose between the best of the worst? It may take until election day. The difference may be a virtual toss of the coin. I may wish to vote Labor out, but that doesn't mean I wish to vote the Liberals in. Lots can happen between now and election day. BTW my vote may be irrelevant if I'm in a safe seat anyway, right.

I await all your disclosures

[mantra]

Abbott was brought up in a family with 3 sisters. He now has 3 daughters - so he's only lived around females. What happens psychologically to a male when he is constantly surrounded by females and needs male attention?

From his perch he can make uninformed macho male sounds...

To a pregnant 14-year-old struggling to grasp what’s happening, for example, example, a senior student with a whole life mapped out or a mother already failing to cope under difficult circumstances, abortion is the easy way out. It’s hardly surprising that people should choose the most convenient exit from awkward situations. What seems to be considered far less often is avoiding situations where difficult choices might arise.

Abbott policy on RU486 - termination drug

"For some women seeking pregnancy termination, a medical abortion may be preferable, but is unsafe in circumstances in which appropriate supervision and follow-up may not be available. It is therefore unsuitable for women in rural and remote areas who may have limited access to obstetric facilities. "Making the drug available on prescription without "appropriate frameworks" to ensure it was used safely would "increase the risks to women undergoing pregnancy terminations".

[Rorschach]

Abbott was brought up in a family with 3 sisters. He now has 3 daughters - so he's only lived around females. In the words of Tony Abbott Bullshit... I suppose he never went to school or university or played sports, was a member of various social/community groups, etc, etc, etc. What happens psychologically to a male when he is constantly surrounded by females and needs male attention? He become effeminate?

From his perch he can make uninformed macho male sounds... The only one making uninformed sounds is you mantra.

To a pregnant 14-year-old struggling to grasp what’s happening, for example, example, a senior student with a whole life mapped out or a mother already failing to cope under difficult circumstances, abortion is the easy way out. It’s hardly surprising that people should choose the most convenient exit from awkward situations. What seems to be considered far less often is avoiding situations where difficult choices might arise.

Hate to tell you mantra, but to some it is the "easy" way out or to put it another way... the only sensible solution. This would be a typical Catholic opinion. Mind you Muslims might seek to kill the woman for adultery, etc.

Abbott policy on RU486 - termination drug

"For some women seeking pregnancy termination, a medical abortion may be preferable, but is unsafe in circumstances in which appropriate supervision and follow-up may not be available. It is therefore unsuitable for women in rural and remote areas who may have limited access to obstetric facilities. "Making the drug available on prescription without "appropriate frameworks" to ensure it was used safely would "increase the risks to women undergoing pregnancy terminations". This was the advice he was given at the time. You going to disclose that?

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ROTFLMAO at your truly "informed" analysis mantra.

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Abbott policy on RU486 - termination drug
"For some women seeking pregnancy termination, a medical abortion may be preferable, but is unsafe in circumstances in which appropriate supervision and follow-up may not be available. It is therefore unsuitable for women in rural and remote areas who may have limited access to obstetric facilities. "Making the drug available on prescription without "appropriate frameworks" to ensure it was used safely would "increase the risks to women undergoing pregnancy terminations".

This was the advice he was given at the time. You going to disclose that?

ROTFLMAO at your truly "informed" analysis mantra.

The advice was given to him by Cardinal Pell. It wasn't advice given to him by the medical experts.

[Rorschach]

That is a lie mantra
You disgust me.

[Rorschach]

A few days ago, he made available advice from the Department of Health and Ageing, about whether or not the drug was safe. It looked specifically at the use of RU 486 in rural and remote regions. It quoted advice from Chief Medical Officer Professor John Horvath, and Professor Andrew Child, former President of the Royal Australian College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists. The report concluded that RU 486; '.. carries a significantly higher risk of later adverse events, such as incomplete termination and prolonged bleeding, and thus a higher proportion of women who undergo medical abortion require subsequent and at times, urgent intervention... its use outside the existing framework in which surgical termination is currently managed in Australia would increase the risk of adverse outcomes.. [it is] unsafe in circumstances in which appropriate supervision and follow-up may not be available .. It is therefore unsuitable for women in rural and remote areas who may have limited access to obstetric facilities.' On the basis of this, there was no reason to lift the ban on RU 486, said the Minister.

Obviously Abbott is going to look at that advice and other advice he was given through his eyes and life experience. Abbott hasn't been Health minister for years shouldn't you be blaming others for it's tardy (2012) release? Labor or the minority Labor Government perhaps?

Here are 2 opinions from opposing camps on ru486 in August 2012...

Dr Deborah Bateson is medical director of Family Planning NSW.

Mifepristone, used in combination with a second drug called misoprostol, provides an effective alternative to surgical abortion. Before today, mifepristone was only available to a limited number of doctors who are ‘‘authorised prescribers’’ under the provisions of the Therapeutic Goods Act 1989.

Dr Renate Klein is a women’s health researcher and co-author with Janice Raymond and Lynette Dumble of RU486: Misconceptions, Myths and Morals, Spinifex Press.

Also, until now RU486 and the second drug (PG, Cytotec) - which by the way has never been approved for use in abortions by its manufacturer (Pfizer, formerly Searle) - could only be used by medical practitioners after obtaining an authorised prescriber license from the TGA. Indeed, Professor da Costa, who was the first to obtain such a licence, reported that the combination RU486/PG had strict conditions imposed: only women with life-threatening or otherwise serious health conditions such as kidney disease, high blood pressure and other heart conditions for whom a suction abortion was deemed unsafe, could be administered RU486.

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