Carbon tax: Dullard puppet fisted by the Bob and the Greens

[Pastafarian]

[And the Galaxy poll findings, they are bogus too?

They may well be true, but opinion polls on science are irrelevant. Science isn't a populartity contest. Otherwise in the US, creationism would have won out years ago.

[mellie]

If Gillard wouldn't even meet or consult with her chief climatic scientific advisers before imposing her carbon-tax , tell me what does this say about a 'considered' 'articulate' Labor government who are more interested in the $policy$, than the science which claims to support it?

Careless, rushed, incompetent and reckless springs to mind.

Why are Gillards climatologists resigning?

Gillard doesn't believe it either, she was not even interested, hahahahhahah

All she was interested in was marketing the product, not rationalising the science behind it.



http://www.theage.com.au/national/gilla ... 1b5kj.html

She's been caught out again!

[IQS.RLOW]

So it is the science you disagree with, not the economics?

Your two-bit question replies are transparent
So you agree that the economics only make sense if applied globally?

It would be better if applied globally - hence the great effort to get a global agreement. However it is wrong to conclude that it does not make sense locally as well

No. Unless it is applied globally, the economy of the unilaterally acting country WILL suffer economic damage

I see you really are clueless about economics. Maybe you should go back and finish your TAFE book keeping course, gimpboy

How do you think our balance of trade will look if the price of carbon places our production of iron ore above the cost of Vales in brazil ?

How does a manufacture that exports widget A compete when fuckwits like you have just increase all his internal costs?

I say again, you are a clueless fucking spastic who needs to go back to school

[mellie]

Australia's recently resigned and Labor shunned chief scientist tells the truth.


No wonder Gillard did a body swap, and didn't wish to meet with her or cart her along to Copenhagen, she wouldn't lie for the ALP.

See, Australia's recently resigned chief scientists research findings concluded that the planet had not warmed in the past 15 years.

Senator Fielding, one of seven cross-bench senators, has written to his upper house colleagues telling them that Australia's chief scientist, Professor Penny Sackett, had accepted the validity of data which showed the world had not warmed in the past 15 years.

But the senator's office had earlier sent out a media release wrongly naming Australian National University climate expert Will Steffen as the nation's chief scientist.

No wonder Gillard wanted this to slip under the radar.... wonderful timing isn't it.


Night all.


http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/836 ... to-al-gore
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011 ... 146756.htm

[Pastafarian]

Australia's recently resigned and Labor shunned chief scientist tells the truth.


No wonder Gillard did a body swap, and didn't wish to meet with her or cart her along to Copenhagen, she wouldn't lie for the ALP.

See, Australia's recently resigned chief scientists research findings concluded that the planet had not warmed in the past 15 years.

Senator Fielding, one of seven cross-bench senators, has written to his upper house colleagues telling them that Australia's chief scientist, Professor Penny Sackett, had accepted the validity of data which showed the world had not warmed in the past 15 years.

But the senator's office had earlier sent out a media release wrongly naming Australian National University climate expert Will Steffen as the nation's chief scientist.

No wonder Gillard wanted this to slip under the radar.... wonderful timing isn't it.


Night all.


http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/836 ... to-al-gore
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011 ... 146756.htm

Hello Mellie,

If this is true, then it is extremely disturbing no matter which side of the debate you're on. However neither of those links you gave provides the quote that you gave about Fielding writing to other senators.

[Outlaw Yogi]

IPA's a bogus institute sponsored by the mining industry ... and probably any other GHG intensive industry with the inclination to create psuedo-science to discredit science itself.

And the Galaxy poll findings, they are bogus too?

Maybe ... if they used selective surveying.

You are a complete ignoramus, face it,

Why? .. because IPA is a bogus institute? . don't see how their political propagandisng could have any bearing on my knowledge or ignorance.

IPA is a right wing PR scamers org. Minerrals Council of NSW often sponsor them on behalf of the coal industry, y'know companies like Peabody Coal ect.

I remember IPA recomending we sell National Parks.

[IQS.RLOW]

At least the right only have the IPA instead of the long line of .org shit stains emanating from the arsehole of the greens sucking up public money - those supposedly non-political organizations are a conga line of green suckholes slinging off the public purse and offer nothing but advocacy of the greens mantra and when they realize that their alarmist messages are being ignored, they start up another 'group' to try and add legitimacy to their argument

Greens are filthy fucking liars and fluffy bunnies

[mantra]

At least the right only have the IPA instead of the long line of .org shit stains emanating from the arsehole of the greens sucking up public money - those supposedly non-political organizations are a conga line of green suckholes slinging off the public purse and offer nothing but advocacy of the greens mantra and when they realize that their alarmist messages are being ignored, they start up another 'group' to try and add legitimacy to their argument

Greens are filthy fucking liars and fluffy bunnies

I can see why some of the rabid right love Tony Abbott. Like minds are attracted. And Abbott thinks he has a chance of leadership. If he ever gets in - he could make you his Deputy IQ.

A Liberal insider has released a tape of a phone conversation between Tony Abbott and Tony Winsor......

"You're a f***ing liar, a dog, a rat ... I hope you die, you bastard," a rabid Tony Abbott said.....during negotiations!!!

[mellie]

Australia's recently resigned and Labor shunned chief scientist tells the truth.


No wonder Gillard did a body swap, and didn't wish to meet with her or cart her along to Copenhagen, she wouldn't lie for the ALP.

See, Australia's recently resigned chief scientists research findings concluded that the planet had not warmed in the past 15 years.

Senator Fielding, one of seven cross-bench senators, has written to his upper house colleagues telling them that Australia's chief scientist, Professor Penny Sackett, had accepted the validity of data which showed the world had not warmed in the past 15 years.

But the senator's office had earlier sent out a media release wrongly naming Australian National University climate expert Will Steffen as the nation's chief scientist.

No wonder Gillard wanted this to slip under the radar.... wonderful timing isn't it.


Night all.


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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011 ... 146756.htm

Hello Mellie,

If this is true, then it is extremely disturbing no matter which side of the debate you're on. However neither of those links you gave provides the quote that you gave about Fielding writing to other senators.

Did you even read the article?

"Senator Fielding, one of seven crossbench senators, has written to his upper house colleagues telling them that Australia's chief scientist, Professor Penny Sackett, had accepted the validity of data which showed the world had not warmed in the past 15 years."


Sorry, i'm not having a good morning...

Try reading it again...

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/836 ... to-al-gore

[mellie]

Further more, I have a feeling we will be hearing more from a scorned and professionally undervalued and intellectually insulted Professor Penny Sackett in future.

She will go one way or the other...either she will accept a pay-out or cushy position in some retirement lab and never say another thing about it, or she'll gush!

She's already began engaging sceptics and our media, so she's not a happy camper!

Imagine being a vehement activist, supporter of a scientific theory, one you wholeheartedly believed in only to find out you were a mere prop, were there for show...this and really weren't being valued as a scientist at all.

No wonder she resigned half way into her 5 year contract.

Give her time, eventually it will get to her and she will pop, and fair enough, I would too.

Again, it's the principle of the thing, they have made a mockery of her.

http://www.chiefscientist.gov.au/2011/0 ... scientist/