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Re: Wikileaks

Post by boxy » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:12 pm

Sheesh. Does he want to be the next Che, or not? Sure, it's gunna be hard... but what does he want? The Man to help him in his rebellion?
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:46 pm

Read somewhere in last few days that 1 of the Swedish wenches levelling the sexual misconduct charges wrote a book on how to get back at old boyfriends by accusing them of rape ect.

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Re: Wikileaks

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:22 am

Got into a tussle with a fat, diabetic, chain-smoking redneck woman on heart medication when I told her Assange is my hero :)

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Re: Wikileaks

Post by boxy » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:55 am

Saw some guy on Letterman last night, talking about Assange. Does conservative Americans not get the fact that non-Americans don't have any obligation whatsoever, to protect their secrets? :roll:
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:54 pm

Julian Assange's lawyers 'preparing for possible US charges'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/de ... us-charges
Jennifer Robinson said her team had heard from "several different US lawyers rumours that an indictment was on its way or had happened already, but we don't know".

According to some reports, Washington is seeking to prosecute Assange under the 1917 act, which was used unsuccessfully to try to gag the New York Times when it published the Pentagon Papers in the 1970s. However, despite escalating rhetoric over the last fortnight, no charges have yet been lodged, and government sources say they are unaware any such move is being prepared.

Robinson said Assange's team did not believe the US had grounds to prosecute him but understood that Washington was "looking closely at other charges, such as computer charges, so we have one eye on it".

Assange is in Wandsworth prison in south London after being refused bail on Tuesday. Sweden is seeking his extradition over allegations of sexual assault.

Speaking to ABC News, Robinson said she did not believe the Espionage Act applied to Assange, adding: "In any event he's entitled to first amendment protection as publisher of WikiLeaks and any prosecution under the Espionage Act would in my view be unconstitutional and puts at risk all media organisations in the US."

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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Ned Kelly » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:06 pm

Receiving stolen property? Depends on the definition of 'property' I suppose. The person/s who leaked to Wiki was/were probably technically stealing the material in the sense they were not authorised to give it to Wiki, and in fact probably had an embargo on them that they not do so.

Wiki would have known that, so the charge of receiving stolen property might not be beyond the realm of possibility.

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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:45 pm

Heven't heard that one yet, re stolen property, but apparently the espionage act only applies to US citizens, and as for computer crime, well all he's done is publish material that the relevant institutions have failed to copyright. They have no case.
Which I gather why they need sycophant nations (ie Sweden) to manufacture dodgey charges.

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Re: Wikileaks

Post by boxy » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:05 pm

And yet they store their data in a "Bond cave" in Sweden?

Reality is much more complex. At least in free countries, the dominant ideology doesn't have it all their own way, thank dawg.
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by boxy » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:31 pm

A MELBOURNE lawyer and former boss of Prime Minister Julia Gillard has criticised her government for its handling of WikiLeaks and its Australian founder, Julian Assange.

Peter Gordon, whose legal firm made Ms Gillard the first female partner of Slater and Gordon, said her comment that Mr Assange had broken the law was baseless.

He said the fact that people such as Ms Gillard and Attorney-General Robert McClelland - both of whom he knew to be good lawyers and decent people - could be driven to behave in this way was a sobering reminder of ''the seductive and compulsive draw of power''.
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:18 am

boxy wrote:Saw some guy on Letterman last night, talking about Assange. Does conservative Americans not get the fact that non-Americans don't have any obligation whatsoever, to protect their secrets? :roll:
No.

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