Labors carbonic tax plague has fallen off the radar?

[mantra]

Two words..

Double standards.

Some of the reactions to any criticism of Abbott are over the top.

I was responding to Aussie's post and the comment was harmless (or so I thought).

Most of our politicians lie. They say what we want to hear until they get to the trough.

[mellie]

Two words..

Double standards.

Some of the reactions to any criticism of Abbott are over the top.

I was responding to Aussie's post and the comment was harmless (or so I thought). I've been saying for a while that Abbott will not be able to reverse some of this government's legislation. He knows it, but hasn't got the guts to come out and say so. Gillard lied to us when the truth would have been so much easier for her and the electorate might have understood why she changed her mind.

Most of our politicians lie. They say what we want to hear until they get to the trough.

Lying is one thing,(like you say, they all do it to some degree) but destroying the economy and changing a nations culture is something different Mantra.

I think Gillard will be remembered for being much more Than Australia's first female PM unfortunately.

Just as I think Bob Brown will be remembered for being more than that friendly little benign tree-hugging whale saving party.


It's filthy mantra, both the Greens and Labor have the smell of soviet ball-sack grease all over them.


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... osed04.htm


In part, some of Liberal does too....(ie, Turnbull) but they are the only ones capable of turning this around, they did it last time, they can do it again.

[mantra]

It's filthy mantra, both the Greens and Labor have the smell of soviet ball-sack grease all over them.

Can you please explain that statement Mel?

The Greens are the only party whose ideology is out there for everyone to see. There is nothing secretive or covert about them and they have never been associated with corruptness - unlike the two big parties. I don't think all their policies are ideal - but many of the Labor and Liberal policies are less ideal.

Gillard has turned out to be a big disappointment and the media has also helped hasten her end, but an Abbott government isn't going to give you what you want. Give it twelve months until the honeymoon period is over and Abbott will be on the nose too. There is little difference in the Liberal/Labor policies because they both have the same master.

[mellie]

Mantra, you freely oppose Globalisation...


Mantra, seriously.


http://greens.org.au/policies/human-rig ... governance <------ Have you not seen this?

[mellie]

Principles

The Australian Greens believe that:

The system of global governance must be reinvigorated to advance global peace and security, justice, human rights, poverty alleviation, health and environmental sustainability.
Major structural reform is needed to provide stronger, more effective and more representative multilateral institutions.
The leading role of the United Nations in the maintenance of international peace and security must be recognised and respected by all countries.
The international financial institutions that govern aid, development, trade and transnational financial movements must contribute to global economic justice.

Aims

The Australian Greens want:

A renewed commitment by Australia to multilateralism as the means of addressing global challenges through supporting the United Nations Charter and meeting financial obligations to the organisation.
Democratisation of the United Nations, including the phasing out of permanent membership, ending veto power in the Security Council and ensuring greater transparency.
Full support for, and adequate resourcing of, the International Criminal Court (ICC).
The development and upholding of international legal codes on the accountability of all perpetrators, including political and military leaders, for human rights abuses and crimes against humanity.
Early parliamentary engagement in Australia’s negotiations of treaties, with agreements being reviewable by parliament.
Support for the establishment, by the United Nations, of an international crisis prevention and response centre to address threats from conflicts, to provide rapid response peacekeeping forces, and to rapidly respond to humanitarian crises.
Support for the implementation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1325 which calls for more women at every level of governance, and for women and gender issues to be included in all aspects of peacemaking and peace-keeping.
International financial institutions that are democratic and that promote sustainable trade and development. This would require reform and democratisation of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), World Bank and World Trade Organization (WTO), or failing that, their replacement.



Authorised and printed by Ben Spies-Butcher and Christine Cunningham, 8-10 Hobart Place Canberra 2601

What part of the Greens form part of an Internationalist and Communist global UN- order have you missed?


Time you knew the truth. Sorry. But there it is on their website.

Basically, the Greens want Australians to submit to global governance.


Mantra, please don't cry when I show you this.


http://greens.org.au/policies/human-rig ... governance <----- I only found it tonight myself.


I knew what their agenda was, but never thought they would be so .... hmmm... open about it, for want of a better word?
I guess they assume those who vote for them are adequately brainwashed enough not to question it.


Now Mantra...just to re-cap, what are your thoughts on UN, (founded by communists) global governance, globalisation and all things internationalist?


Or are they ok now that the Greens endorse it?




Globalisation results in loss of national identity, increasing environmental problems and the exploitation of labour.

Mantra, I remember a time when you would condemn the above terms, globalisation, internationalism, communism, are you now desensitised, no longer see this as a bad thing because the Greens openly promote policy.

Mantra, you know it's a bad thing for Australia...


Yet the Greens support it.

Why?

Ask Stalinists Greens Senator Rhiannon and Liberals Barry O'Farrell.


Like I said, it's infiltrated all our main political party's to some extent.
Mantra, they have always been there, it's just now they are feeling particularly empowered due to our geopolitical disadvantage no thanks to a minority government who's senior ministers are of communist extraction.
And due to the UN, (our real government at present) having sucked us into introducing their commie-Tax. aka carbon-tax.


It was never about saving the planet Mantra, it was about assisting the reds out from under their beds and giving them our beds to sleep in.

[boxy]

Lying is one thing,(like you say, they all do it to some degree) but destroying the economy and changing a nations culture is something different Mantra.

And here is Melbart, continuing her political lie of choice. Australia's economy is still world class, as is our culture... even if the opposition cheerleaders are doing their best to turn everyone into a bunch of whinging poms.

[mellie]

Lying is one thing,(like you say, they all do it to some degree) but destroying the economy and changing a nations culture is something different Mantra.

And here is Melbart, continuing her political lie of choice. Australia's economy is still world class, as is our culture... even if the opposition cheerleaders are doing their best to turn everyone into a bunch of whinging poms.

What, world class when compared to the ravaged nations of Europe who have endured a GFC?

Fuck off Boxy, you smelly little tambourine bashing chippie.

Chippie = communist-hippie, environmentalist red- Greens supporter.

Watermelon, Green on the outside, red in the centre.

[boxy]

What, world class when compared to the ravaged nations of Europe who have endured a GFC?

Exactly. We are a positively calm and business as usual in Australia, yet your hyperbole would have us running around like chooks with our head cut off, because "our economy has been destroyed"

Idiot, panic merchant.

[IQS.RLOW]

How long before you lefty fuckwits start using Zimbabwe as a comparison?

[mellie]

What, world class when compared to the ravaged nations of Europe who have endured a GFC?

Exactly. We are a positively calm and business as usual in Australia, yet your hyperbole would have us running around like chooks with our head cut off, because "our economy has been destroyed"

Idiot, panic merchant.

No, i'm a realist Boxy.


You know fine well what I say is true.

Australia was spared of the GFC, due to sound conservative economical governance under a Liberal government ...though now, they want us to spread our wealth and fund their commie UN globalist agenda to help bail them out of debt.

Don't you find it ironic how the Greens sprout a one world government UN policy whereby neither identity and individuality is valued or encouraged, yet sprout/support these 'ideals' when referring to Gays, multiculturalism diversity, tolerance, and wait for it....."individuality"...when trying to convince people to vote for them.

If the Greens are so "individual" then why is it they want us all to be the same?

Their globalist policy contradicts the very "individual" ideals they claim to value...which is not uncommon with respects to the communist manifesto. Hypocrites and Liars!

Their philosophy is "Whatever it takes".


Fortunately, our incoming "majority" ...you know, the government a genuine majority of Australians actually want will set things straight.