Got the boogey man?

[Outlaw Yogi]

Corrective note ... abreviation UsB should have been UbL (Usama bin Laden) ... got no explanation for the mistake.

I know he's usually refered to as Osama, but am led to believe the Arabs reckon it's Usama, and current TV news report/s briefly showed FBI files with the name Usama bin Laden on the cover sticker.

I don't know the reasons for spelling and pronounciation differences, nor why Americans spell and pronounce muslim as 'moslem'.

[Aussie]

Yeah.....but, I accept they did get him. Other than that..................I believe nothing.

[Rainbow Moonlight]

I don't understand why they would release photographs of others taken but not of him. (Be funny if he had been put under home detention with George Bush. ? )

[Outlaw Yogi]

Current story is US won't release any corpse photos, and that those of said associates now circulating were sold by a Pakistani ISI agent.
All very plausible, but considering intel orgs fetish for secrecy, I can't help wondering if this ISI operative will lose his job over his indescretion for money, or if ISI permitted released for as yet unknown motives?

Saw a report interviewing a NYC Vets for Peace character at Ground Zero, who said he believes the story, but still wants closure via photos, and asked "Is that too much to ask?"

Watched this ABC Lateline interview [below] last night. Interesting to gain a muslim point of view.
Can't remember if same report but an interview of 3 average Pakistanis in Pakistan, showed many Pkistanis believed UbL was already dead.

Changing bin Laden stories 'bizarre': Ramadan
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/ ... 209160.htm

At the end of the day, the way it has been done and all these versions and all this political statements that we have gives the impression that it's very much used as a PR exercise, putting the president Barack Obama in a situation where he is strong and he is showing how much he is protecting the country, because he has been criticised on that side by the neo-con and the Tea Party, saying that he's not good for the job in Iraq, in Afghanistan and even for security reason.

On the other side, is not at all helping a clear dialogue with the Muslim majority countries and the perception that the Muslims - it's not really an event in the Muslim majority countries, it's just a random event, it's - you know, the great, great, great majority of the Muslims were not at all following and supporting Osama bin Laden's rhetoric. But the way it's perceived is: it's much more a Western issue.

We still have questions, and when we have questions it doesn't mean that we are buying, you know, the conspiracy theories, about saying he has not been killed. Oh, no! I'm not saying this. I'm just saying how come we were told that first it was a firefight and then we are told he was not armed, that he was in the family, that they killed a woman and then we are told the woman has not been killed, now we listen to what the Pakistani are saying, it's completely different. We have so many versions. This is one.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Note this 'UbL is dead' (already) theory/belief has been around for a fair while now.

Last updated at 10:59 PM on 11th September 2009
Has Osama Bin Laden been dead for seven years - and are the U.S. and Britain covering it up to continue war on terror?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... error.html

Within hours of the October 7 strikes by the U.S. on Tora Bora, Bin Laden made his first ever appearance on video tape. Dressed in Army fatigues, and with an Islamic head-dress, he had an assault rifle propped behind him in a broadly lit mountain hideout. Significantly, he looked pale and gaunt.

Then came a second videotape on November 3, 2001. Once again, an ailing Bin Laden lashed out at the United States. He urged true Muslims to celebrate the attacks - but did not at any time acknowledge he had been involved in the atrocity.

And then there was silence until December 13, 2001 - the date Griffin claims Bin Laden died. That very day, the U.S. Government released a new video of the terror chief. In this tape, Bin Laden contradicted all his previous denials, and suddenly admitted to his involvement in the atrocity of 9/11.

As for the matter of what happened to him, hints of Bin Laden's kidney failure, or that he might be dead, first appeared on January 19, 2002, four months after 9/11.

This was when Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf told America's news show CNN: 'I think now, frankly, he is dead for the reason he is a kidney patient. The images of him show he is extremely weak.'

In his book, Professor Griffin also endorses this theory. He says Bin Laden was treated for a urinary infection, often linked to kidney disease, at the American Hospital in Dubai in July 2001, two months before 9/11. At the same time, he ordered a mobile dialysis machine to be delivered to Afghanistan.

How could Bin Laden, on the run in snowy mountain caves, have used the machine that many believe was essential to keep him alive? Doctors whom Griffin cites on the subject think it would have been impossible.

He would have needed to stay in one spot with a team of medics, hygienic conditions, and a regular maintenance programme for the dialysis unit itself.

And what of the telling, small news item that broke on December 26, 2001 in the Egyptian newspaper Al-Wafd? It said a prominent official of the Afghan Taliban had announced that Osama Bin Laden had been buried on or about December 13.

'He suffered serious complications and died a natural, quiet death. He was buried in Tora Bora, a funeral attended by 30 Al Qaeda fighters, close members of his family and friends from the Taliban. By the Wahhabi tradition, no mark was left on the grave,' said the report.

[Outlaw Yogi]

This is presented as ...

(REAL) Video Footage of Osama Bin Laden Captured and Killed in Pakistan
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_ ... glorj2rZaY

Had to join/sign up to see it.

But it looks unrelated ... hunvees not choppers ... must be BS or FU.

EDIT ADDITION -

A witness account of Bin Laden's death
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW7OywJl ... re=related

More BS ..
US Special Forces Firefight with Osama Bin Laden - Helmet Cam in Abbottabad, Pakistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zpyLjLR ... re=related

[Outlaw Yogi]

This is the best one
Hitler reacts to the news that Osama bin Laden was killed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8A2unAB ... re=related

And this is probably the wankiest ...
Osama Bin Laden Dead: Inside the Top Secret Operation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yhX1NNS ... re=related

[Outlaw Yogi]

This is phunny ...
Osama Bin Lyin?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EtT4b9A ... re=related

...even better ...
Osama Break Dancing Music Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYBc9OxU ... re=related

[Outlaw Yogi]

As the US verion of accounts gains (some) acceptance, despite 3 or more versions of accounts relating to a skirmish during the raid, it now seems the only reason to dump UbL's body at sea, or say they have, is to generate/incite further anger/hatred of USA by muslims.


Son says bin Laden sea burial demeans family
http://au.news.yahoo.com/osama-bin-lade ... ly-report/

LONDON (Reuters) - A statement purporting to come from a son of Osama bin Laden denounced the al Qaeda leader's killing as "criminal" and said his burial at sea had humiliated the family, an online monitoring service said.

The letter said, in part: "We hold the American President (Barack) Obama legally responsible to clarify the fate of our father, Osama bin Laden, for it is unacceptable, humanely and religiously, to dispose of a person with such importance and status among his people, by throwing his body into the sea in that way, which demeans and humiliates his family and his supporters and which challenges religious provisions and feelings of hundreds of millions of Muslims."

The letter said the U.S. administration had offered no proof to back up its account of the mission. It alleged the goal of raid had been to kill and not arrest, adding that afterwards the American commandos had "rushed to dispose of the body."

[Outlaw Yogi]

New tangent ... or renewed old tangent according to Pakistanis ...

Fear That U.S. Can Grab Nuclear Arsenal Heightens Pakistani Anger
http://www.nationaljournal.com/national ... 509?page=1

Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, the head of Pakistan's armed forces, released a blistering public statement late last week condemning the U.S. assault and warning that he would order his troops to use armed force against any American troops who entered Pakistan in the future in pursuit of other wanted militants.

Kayani’s statement also made explicit reference to his country’s nuclear arsenal, which he promised to fully defend against any potential American-led efforts to take control of the weapons.

The Pakistani paranoia about the future of its nuclear arsenal is threatening to deal a new blow to the already troubled relationship between Washington and Islamabad.

Pakistan is a country consumed by conspiracy theories, mainly having to do with allegations of nefarious plots by Israel, the U.S., and India. Pakistani newspapers regularly publish breathless “scoops” about American plans to build large military bases inside the country or about so-called “Indo-Zionist” plots by Israel and India to damage Pakistan's fragile economy or weaken its currency.