If Julliar meant that I should accept offensive behaviour, then the answer is NO.
If the aim for this forum is to be cleaner thsn.the one at ozpol, I expect moderation and consequences for attacking fellow posters.
Shamed Greenies still want to BAN Australia Day
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Re: Shamed Greenies still want to BAN Australia Day
Was this not an attack instigated by yourself in the first place? I mean, sure, it fits within the parameters that some people deem "acceptable". Mainly, just so long as there's no swearing, it can't technically be "personal abuse".
I mean, it reeks of condescension and is just asking for a response of the "politically incorrect" variety. In this forum, the admin is a firm believer in letting people express themselves. There may be abuse involved, but if it goes beyond the joke she will recycle it to the "playground" thread, which is clever in itself cause nobody dares to engage in "mud flinging" once it gets sent there, unless somebody is bitching about how they've been "unfairly treated", you know, despite constant personal attacks, baiting and trolling
very few people get banned, and if they do it has to be something really bad.Basically, we don't stifle somebody's views just because we don't agree with it. And I'm sorry, but personal abuse comes with the territory. At least we still discuss politics here rather than "high school drama at the old folks home", which you see at OP.
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Re: Shamed Greenies still want to BAN Australia Day
Nope. I never attacked. The words used were not emotive.
Perhaps the point of contention is the word "easy". Which only meant that people got pulled into a debate not worthy of debate - that somehow greens are involved in some oz day thing.
I already quit ozpol since biased moderation allows Juliar free reign in denigrating fellow posters. The initial email invite suggested this forum be cleaner. Now not so sure with this type of response.
Perhaps the point of contention is the word "easy". Which only meant that people got pulled into a debate not worthy of debate - that somehow greens are involved in some oz day thing.
I already quit ozpol since biased moderation allows Juliar free reign in denigrating fellow posters. The initial email invite suggested this forum be cleaner. Now not so sure with this type of response.
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Re: Shamed Greenies still want to BAN Australia Day
Reboot has very astutely and correctly put Stunned back in his place. Reboot is a real asset to this site.
Back in OZ Stunned used to carry on just like this because he hated the way I would keep posting the TRUTH which is anathema to a Lefty.
Stunned has the usual nasty streak so commonly seen in extreme politically correct Lefties obsessed with Socialism which doesn't work.
Hopefully Peace shall reign again.
But ignoring the Lefty HATE and back to the TOPIC where the vile evil Greenies who burnt Australia to the ground are doing their very best to try to stir up civil unrest here in Australia by trying to stir up the Aboriginies into a violent disruptive Black Power Movement. Of course the ground is littered with the usual Greeny Rent A Crowds all on WELFARE.
‘Invasion Day’ protest: ‘Pay the rent’ critics called racist
RACHEL BAXENDALE 23 MINUTES AGO JANUARY 27, 2020
NRL players Latrell Mitchell and Cody Walker in Sydney. Picture: Jonathan Ng
The organisers of a Melbourne “Invasion Day” protest at which attendees were encouraged to “pay the rent” for living on “stolen land” have accused those asking questions about the governance of the fundraiser of being “racist”.
Tens of thousands of people marched from state parliament to Flinders Street Station on Sunday, protesting against the celebration of Australia Day on January 26
Buckets for cash collection, credit card facilities and online links were made available to attendees and other supporters who were told by protest organiser and Gunnai and Gunditjmara woman Meriki Onus: “Whether you live here, or in Gippsland, or up in Brisbane, you live on Aboriginal land, and you have an obligation to pay rent to the local blackfellas of that area.”
Ms Onus’s uncle, Aboriginal activist Robbie Thorpe, suggested 1 per cent of annual income would be an appropriate amount to donate to the fund, which is not a registered charity and is being administered by activist group Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance, of which Ms Onus and Mr Thorpe are members.
Ms Onus said the money would be put towards funerals for indigenous Victorians.
Ms Onus’s cousin, activist and former state Greens MP Lidia Thorpe, hit out at those who asked questions about where the money was going.
On Friday, Melbourne broadcaster Neil Mitchell interviewed Ms Thorpe, telling her Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance is “not the most credible organisation in the world” and asking, “where will the money go?”. On Sunday, Ms Thorpe hit back, to cheers from fellow protesters.
“For those questioning the governance of the pay-the-rent concept, how dare you? It is racist,” she said. “Why don’t you ask where everybody else is spending their money and what they’re using it for?
“We have a sophisticated governance system in place that our old people are in control of, like they should be.
“We have the oldest constitution on this planet, the oldest governance system on this planet, so if anyone wants to question how the money is being spent, then you need to talk to my old people, and you need to justify what you’re doing on stolen land.”
Ms Thorpe said the “pay-the- rent” concept was devised by indigenous elders in the 1970s.
“It’s a way we can self-determine and it’s a way you can help us to determine our future, ourself, our way,” she said.
In Sydney, thousands including NRL players Latrell Mitchell and Cody Walker marched from the central business district to inner-west Camperdown chanting “change the date” and “always was, always will be Aboriginal land”.
Victoria Police said two men were arrested near the Melbourne protest on Sunday, both of whom were accused of breaching the peace as part of a counter-protest.
About 20 men wore T-shirts reading “Gov Arthur Phillip did nothing wrong” and holding signs saying “Australia Day should never be changed”.
The counter-protest group was persuaded by police to disperse before most of the “Invasion Day” protesters arrived.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/p ... b200ef56d6
And what are really interesting are the COMMENTS from the man in the street.
IanW 1 HOUR AGO
Same old, same old. Gimme money!
janne 1 HOUR AGO
"The groups was persuaded by police to disperse"..why does that not surprise me.
Charles J 1 HOUR AGO
It seems to be to "go to" response when anything is questioned. Racism, sexism, ageism or any other number of 'isms'. These people cannot handle dissent and cannot handle debate, They try to shut down anyone who dares to question them. It shows more and more that they have nothing to support their case.
jan 1 HOUR AGO
Don't we pay "rent" already?
Last time I checked the state and federal governments paid in the order of $30 billion per annum to special indigenous programs, etc.
On top of that, mining companies pay indigenous groups royalties where applicable.
Isn't that enough?
Divide $30 billion by the indigenous population and the answer will really surprise.
janne 1 HOUR AGO
Amen Jan.
Charles 2 HOURS AGO
Remember ATSIC? It didn’t last long did it? Why?
Catherine 2 HOURS AGO
At the morning staff meeting at a remote east Arnhem indigenous community, a very well respected & loved elder told us, non-indigenous staff, that the invasion protests were "yaka manymak" translates to "no good"! She was very powerful in her belief that we are all Australian, "we (aboriginal) are no different, we same as you".
Perhaps the Melbourne indigenous young men who are obviously fit & well, should go to some of the remote communities and lend a helping hand. It's been very wet in Arnhem land lately, they could do with a hand to fix up the damage to houses & property.
Jason 2 HOURS AGO
more reasons for myself to dislike activists even more than I did last week
keep it up
Greg 2 HOURS AGO
2 NRL players marched - who cares? Did any plumbers march?
VIC 2 HOURS AGO
$35B per annum paid by tax payers seems like a good amount of rent to me
Greg 2 HOURS AGO
Ask any question and you're a racist. The lazy argument from activists. While we're on the topic. I'm just wondering about the injustices meted out to white convicts, who were sent here for crimes such as stealing handkerchiefs.
P 1 HOUR AGO
@Greg
Further than that.
You might recall the late (& unlamented) Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission (ATSIC).
Any who asked where the AUDb were going with little to show for it (a ARES Engineer unit provided more fresh water to remote communities in 6 months than ATSIC ever did) the cries of 'racism' were heard.
When the word 'audit' was mentioned, those cries became 'genocide'.
Back in OZ Stunned used to carry on just like this because he hated the way I would keep posting the TRUTH which is anathema to a Lefty.
Stunned has the usual nasty streak so commonly seen in extreme politically correct Lefties obsessed with Socialism which doesn't work.
Hopefully Peace shall reign again.
But ignoring the Lefty HATE and back to the TOPIC where the vile evil Greenies who burnt Australia to the ground are doing their very best to try to stir up civil unrest here in Australia by trying to stir up the Aboriginies into a violent disruptive Black Power Movement. Of course the ground is littered with the usual Greeny Rent A Crowds all on WELFARE.
‘Invasion Day’ protest: ‘Pay the rent’ critics called racist
RACHEL BAXENDALE 23 MINUTES AGO JANUARY 27, 2020
NRL players Latrell Mitchell and Cody Walker in Sydney. Picture: Jonathan Ng
The organisers of a Melbourne “Invasion Day” protest at which attendees were encouraged to “pay the rent” for living on “stolen land” have accused those asking questions about the governance of the fundraiser of being “racist”.
Tens of thousands of people marched from state parliament to Flinders Street Station on Sunday, protesting against the celebration of Australia Day on January 26
Buckets for cash collection, credit card facilities and online links were made available to attendees and other supporters who were told by protest organiser and Gunnai and Gunditjmara woman Meriki Onus: “Whether you live here, or in Gippsland, or up in Brisbane, you live on Aboriginal land, and you have an obligation to pay rent to the local blackfellas of that area.”
Ms Onus’s uncle, Aboriginal activist Robbie Thorpe, suggested 1 per cent of annual income would be an appropriate amount to donate to the fund, which is not a registered charity and is being administered by activist group Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance, of which Ms Onus and Mr Thorpe are members.
Ms Onus said the money would be put towards funerals for indigenous Victorians.
Ms Onus’s cousin, activist and former state Greens MP Lidia Thorpe, hit out at those who asked questions about where the money was going.
On Friday, Melbourne broadcaster Neil Mitchell interviewed Ms Thorpe, telling her Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance is “not the most credible organisation in the world” and asking, “where will the money go?”. On Sunday, Ms Thorpe hit back, to cheers from fellow protesters.
“For those questioning the governance of the pay-the-rent concept, how dare you? It is racist,” she said. “Why don’t you ask where everybody else is spending their money and what they’re using it for?
“We have a sophisticated governance system in place that our old people are in control of, like they should be.
“We have the oldest constitution on this planet, the oldest governance system on this planet, so if anyone wants to question how the money is being spent, then you need to talk to my old people, and you need to justify what you’re doing on stolen land.”
Ms Thorpe said the “pay-the- rent” concept was devised by indigenous elders in the 1970s.
“It’s a way we can self-determine and it’s a way you can help us to determine our future, ourself, our way,” she said.
In Sydney, thousands including NRL players Latrell Mitchell and Cody Walker marched from the central business district to inner-west Camperdown chanting “change the date” and “always was, always will be Aboriginal land”.
Victoria Police said two men were arrested near the Melbourne protest on Sunday, both of whom were accused of breaching the peace as part of a counter-protest.
About 20 men wore T-shirts reading “Gov Arthur Phillip did nothing wrong” and holding signs saying “Australia Day should never be changed”.
The counter-protest group was persuaded by police to disperse before most of the “Invasion Day” protesters arrived.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/p ... b200ef56d6
And what are really interesting are the COMMENTS from the man in the street.
IanW 1 HOUR AGO
Same old, same old. Gimme money!
janne 1 HOUR AGO
"The groups was persuaded by police to disperse"..why does that not surprise me.
Charles J 1 HOUR AGO
It seems to be to "go to" response when anything is questioned. Racism, sexism, ageism or any other number of 'isms'. These people cannot handle dissent and cannot handle debate, They try to shut down anyone who dares to question them. It shows more and more that they have nothing to support their case.
jan 1 HOUR AGO
Don't we pay "rent" already?
Last time I checked the state and federal governments paid in the order of $30 billion per annum to special indigenous programs, etc.
On top of that, mining companies pay indigenous groups royalties where applicable.
Isn't that enough?
Divide $30 billion by the indigenous population and the answer will really surprise.
janne 1 HOUR AGO
Amen Jan.
Charles 2 HOURS AGO
Remember ATSIC? It didn’t last long did it? Why?
Catherine 2 HOURS AGO
At the morning staff meeting at a remote east Arnhem indigenous community, a very well respected & loved elder told us, non-indigenous staff, that the invasion protests were "yaka manymak" translates to "no good"! She was very powerful in her belief that we are all Australian, "we (aboriginal) are no different, we same as you".
Perhaps the Melbourne indigenous young men who are obviously fit & well, should go to some of the remote communities and lend a helping hand. It's been very wet in Arnhem land lately, they could do with a hand to fix up the damage to houses & property.
Jason 2 HOURS AGO
more reasons for myself to dislike activists even more than I did last week
keep it up
Greg 2 HOURS AGO
2 NRL players marched - who cares? Did any plumbers march?
VIC 2 HOURS AGO
$35B per annum paid by tax payers seems like a good amount of rent to me
Greg 2 HOURS AGO
Ask any question and you're a racist. The lazy argument from activists. While we're on the topic. I'm just wondering about the injustices meted out to white convicts, who were sent here for crimes such as stealing handkerchiefs.
P 1 HOUR AGO
@Greg
Further than that.
You might recall the late (& unlamented) Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission (ATSIC).
Any who asked where the AUDb were going with little to show for it (a ARES Engineer unit provided more fresh water to remote communities in 6 months than ATSIC ever did) the cries of 'racism' were heard.
When the word 'audit' was mentioned, those cries became 'genocide'.
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Juliar
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Re: Shamed Greenies still want to BAN Australia Day
And would you believe it Tanya Whatshername comes out of the woodwork to try to exploit the Greenies' inflammatory ban Australia Day rubbish.
She is probably trying to upstage stolid plodding old AnAl. Of course the Greenies are outraged.
Tanya Plibersek’s patriot pledge sparks anger
GREG BROWN VICTORIA LAURIE 11:04PM JANUARY 26, 2020
Tanya Plibersek in real shrieking good form
Tanya Plibersek has hit back at left-wing critics over her proposal for the citizenship pledge to be taught in schools, declaring conservatives “don’t have a monopoly on citizenship and patriotism”.
The opposition education spokeswoman said there was nothing inconsistent with being progressive and a patriotic Australian, after the Greens and left-wing commentators condemned her Australia Day speech for its proposal that schoolchildren learn the same pledge recited by new citizens.
Bit of Twitter rubbish floating around.
Tanya Plibersek
To love your country is not to assume that it’s perfect. Patriotism is not above self-reflection and self-improvement.
You can be proud of your citizenship and dedicated to progress. You can cherish this nation and want to make it better.
Greens senator Mehreen Faruqi called the proposal “sad” while social commentator Jane Caro condemned Ms Plibersek for endorsing pride in “spurious geography”.
Jane Caro
Oh Tanya, Tanya, Tanya...I know not what to say. I hope my kids allythemselves with decency, kindness and compassion not spurious geography.
ABC TV personality Julia Zemiro said Ms Plibersek’s comments were “disappointing”, “retrograde” and a “low ebb”, while Women’s Agenda contributing editor Georgie Dent said the pledge idea was “inexplicable”.
Ms Plibersek’s speech came as 27,419 new Australians received their citizenship, including 51 who enjoyed a game of cricket with navy crew on board HMAS Canberra on Sydney Harbour. Scott Morrison praised the country’s inclusive national identity, saying: “This is the greatness of Australia. This is the strength of Australia. This is our secret. This is why as Australians we prevail.”
Coalition MPs Alex Hawke, Tim Wilson, Barnaby Joyce and Jason Falinski backed Ms Plibersek’s proposal, but it was rejected by other conservatives, including Indigenous Australians Minister Ken Wyatt and One Nation leader Pauline Hanson.
Responding to the controversy surrounding her Australia Day speech, Ms Plibersek said as a child of migrants she was “grateful every single day that I get to call Australia home”. “The point I have been making for years is that you can be a progressive and love your country too — conservatives don’t have a monopoly on citizenship and patriotism,” she said.
The party’s former deputy leader raised eyebrows in Labor ranks over the appeal to patriotism in her speech and on Twitter over the weekend, given claims by party MPs she influenced Bill Shorten’s drift towards political correctness before last year’s election.
Some MPs believe she was sending a signal to her colleagues that she should not be discounted as a future Labor leader as the party moves to reshape its messaging to win over working-class and regional voters. Ms Plibersek’s office said she had been calling for Australians to learn about the citizenship pledge for nine years.
Labor leader Anthony Albanese and Scott Morrison did not publicly endorse her proposal.
In her speech, Ms Plibersek linked patriotism with the left-wing and collectivist ideal of “solidarity”. “Patriotism, like mateship, is about solidarity. It’s about what we owe each other as citizens,” Ms Plibersek said on Sunday.
“Patriotism is the knowledge that we’re not alone in this life, that our neighbours are there to share our struggles, that we have 25 million people in our corner when we need it.”
Mr Wyatt said schools were not the right place to recite the citizenship oath. “Schools are there to focus on the three Rs, and children need (to achieve) an academic level for Australia to be a global competitive leader,” he said.
Mr Joyce said the proposal was a rare unity ticket between himself and Ms Plibersek. “It is a scary day when I agree with her,” he said.
“Patriotism as opposed to nationalism is an important thing. The love for your country is an essential component.”
Senator Hanson said she would prefer schools to teach the national anthem and force students to sing it in assemblies. “The national anthem is more important to me,” she said. “The pledge is what we expect of new Australians to take to us and the country they want to be a part of.”
Mr Wilson said it was “disappointing Pauline Hanson opposes young Australians swearing allegiance to our country”. “It would be a wonderful development to push back against cultural progressivism that undermines our national unity,” he said.
Mr Hawke, a minister and key factional ally of the Prime Minister, defended Ms Plibersek over the heavy criticism. “There is much wrong with narrow, negative attitudes given too much weight on social media,” he tweeted. “And Tanya Plibersek coming under fire for sensibly calling for Aussie kids to know the citizenship pledge is another example.”
The pledge, taken by new Australians at citizenship ceremonies, states that: “From this time forward, I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people, whose democratic beliefs I share, whose rights and liberties I respect, and whose laws I will uphold and obey.”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... abdd8f2ad7
And a few COMMENTS never go astray.
PETER 55 MINUTES AGO
I just read the Pledge. Sounds good to me. Can't believe I am agreeing with TP.
Frank Ernest 1 HOUR AGO
That’s right Tanya. Patriotism and Allegiance to your country have nothing to do with your Political Ideology.
On another note this title of being “ Progressive “ the left have given themselves is hilarious. Nothing is further from the truth. The left would have us using horse and cart soon and on stationary bikes trying to produce power for our homes.
Rebecca 1 HOUR AGO
"Oh Tanya, Tanya, Tanya...I know not what to say. I hope my kids allythemselves with decency, kindness and compassion not spurious geography." What a very ignorant and short-sighted and fundamentally thoughtless comment; "geography"!? As if national pride was based only on geography! And as if being patriotic and having national pride negated "decency, kindness and compassion"! Get real.
Darryl W 1 HOUR AGO
Jane Caro has been open about her dislike of Australian culture. Her response is of no surprise.
Mary 1 HOUR AGO
Tanya Plibersek has it all: a child of migrants, highly intelligent, well-educated, highly articulate, photogenic, married with children, pity about her politics. However, I salute what she has to say on this occasion. Thank you Tanya.
Dermot 1 HOUR AGO
Absolutely agree with Tanya. The pledge covers everything a good citizen should aspire to. What’s not right about it? If you take a contrary position perhaps you should consider buzzing back to wherever you or your ancestors came from.
010 1 HOUR AGO
The first sensible thing Tanya’s ever said.
Duncan 1 HOUR AGO
Fake it until you make it, I suppose.
John 1 HOUR AGO
Don't be fooled by what TP has to say; she's a hard, ideological Lefty who wants massive wealth redistribution in this nation and who thinks she's found a way to be able to do it.
Jennyetal 1 HOUR AGO
Plibersek should be delighted by attacks from the leftist rabble. That translates into votes from ordinary Australians.
She is probably trying to upstage stolid plodding old AnAl. Of course the Greenies are outraged.
Tanya Plibersek’s patriot pledge sparks anger
GREG BROWN VICTORIA LAURIE 11:04PM JANUARY 26, 2020
Tanya Plibersek in real shrieking good form
Tanya Plibersek has hit back at left-wing critics over her proposal for the citizenship pledge to be taught in schools, declaring conservatives “don’t have a monopoly on citizenship and patriotism”.
The opposition education spokeswoman said there was nothing inconsistent with being progressive and a patriotic Australian, after the Greens and left-wing commentators condemned her Australia Day speech for its proposal that schoolchildren learn the same pledge recited by new citizens.
Bit of Twitter rubbish floating around.
Tanya Plibersek
To love your country is not to assume that it’s perfect. Patriotism is not above self-reflection and self-improvement.
You can be proud of your citizenship and dedicated to progress. You can cherish this nation and want to make it better.
Greens senator Mehreen Faruqi called the proposal “sad” while social commentator Jane Caro condemned Ms Plibersek for endorsing pride in “spurious geography”.
Jane Caro
Oh Tanya, Tanya, Tanya...I know not what to say. I hope my kids allythemselves with decency, kindness and compassion not spurious geography.
ABC TV personality Julia Zemiro said Ms Plibersek’s comments were “disappointing”, “retrograde” and a “low ebb”, while Women’s Agenda contributing editor Georgie Dent said the pledge idea was “inexplicable”.
Ms Plibersek’s speech came as 27,419 new Australians received their citizenship, including 51 who enjoyed a game of cricket with navy crew on board HMAS Canberra on Sydney Harbour. Scott Morrison praised the country’s inclusive national identity, saying: “This is the greatness of Australia. This is the strength of Australia. This is our secret. This is why as Australians we prevail.”
Coalition MPs Alex Hawke, Tim Wilson, Barnaby Joyce and Jason Falinski backed Ms Plibersek’s proposal, but it was rejected by other conservatives, including Indigenous Australians Minister Ken Wyatt and One Nation leader Pauline Hanson.
Responding to the controversy surrounding her Australia Day speech, Ms Plibersek said as a child of migrants she was “grateful every single day that I get to call Australia home”. “The point I have been making for years is that you can be a progressive and love your country too — conservatives don’t have a monopoly on citizenship and patriotism,” she said.
The party’s former deputy leader raised eyebrows in Labor ranks over the appeal to patriotism in her speech and on Twitter over the weekend, given claims by party MPs she influenced Bill Shorten’s drift towards political correctness before last year’s election.
Some MPs believe she was sending a signal to her colleagues that she should not be discounted as a future Labor leader as the party moves to reshape its messaging to win over working-class and regional voters. Ms Plibersek’s office said she had been calling for Australians to learn about the citizenship pledge for nine years.
Labor leader Anthony Albanese and Scott Morrison did not publicly endorse her proposal.
In her speech, Ms Plibersek linked patriotism with the left-wing and collectivist ideal of “solidarity”. “Patriotism, like mateship, is about solidarity. It’s about what we owe each other as citizens,” Ms Plibersek said on Sunday.
“Patriotism is the knowledge that we’re not alone in this life, that our neighbours are there to share our struggles, that we have 25 million people in our corner when we need it.”
Mr Wyatt said schools were not the right place to recite the citizenship oath. “Schools are there to focus on the three Rs, and children need (to achieve) an academic level for Australia to be a global competitive leader,” he said.
Mr Joyce said the proposal was a rare unity ticket between himself and Ms Plibersek. “It is a scary day when I agree with her,” he said.
“Patriotism as opposed to nationalism is an important thing. The love for your country is an essential component.”
Senator Hanson said she would prefer schools to teach the national anthem and force students to sing it in assemblies. “The national anthem is more important to me,” she said. “The pledge is what we expect of new Australians to take to us and the country they want to be a part of.”
Mr Wilson said it was “disappointing Pauline Hanson opposes young Australians swearing allegiance to our country”. “It would be a wonderful development to push back against cultural progressivism that undermines our national unity,” he said.
Mr Hawke, a minister and key factional ally of the Prime Minister, defended Ms Plibersek over the heavy criticism. “There is much wrong with narrow, negative attitudes given too much weight on social media,” he tweeted. “And Tanya Plibersek coming under fire for sensibly calling for Aussie kids to know the citizenship pledge is another example.”
The pledge, taken by new Australians at citizenship ceremonies, states that: “From this time forward, I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people, whose democratic beliefs I share, whose rights and liberties I respect, and whose laws I will uphold and obey.”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... abdd8f2ad7
And a few COMMENTS never go astray.
PETER 55 MINUTES AGO
I just read the Pledge. Sounds good to me. Can't believe I am agreeing with TP.
Frank Ernest 1 HOUR AGO
That’s right Tanya. Patriotism and Allegiance to your country have nothing to do with your Political Ideology.
On another note this title of being “ Progressive “ the left have given themselves is hilarious. Nothing is further from the truth. The left would have us using horse and cart soon and on stationary bikes trying to produce power for our homes.
Rebecca 1 HOUR AGO
"Oh Tanya, Tanya, Tanya...I know not what to say. I hope my kids allythemselves with decency, kindness and compassion not spurious geography." What a very ignorant and short-sighted and fundamentally thoughtless comment; "geography"!? As if national pride was based only on geography! And as if being patriotic and having national pride negated "decency, kindness and compassion"! Get real.
Darryl W 1 HOUR AGO
Jane Caro has been open about her dislike of Australian culture. Her response is of no surprise.
Mary 1 HOUR AGO
Tanya Plibersek has it all: a child of migrants, highly intelligent, well-educated, highly articulate, photogenic, married with children, pity about her politics. However, I salute what she has to say on this occasion. Thank you Tanya.
Dermot 1 HOUR AGO
Absolutely agree with Tanya. The pledge covers everything a good citizen should aspire to. What’s not right about it? If you take a contrary position perhaps you should consider buzzing back to wherever you or your ancestors came from.
010 1 HOUR AGO
The first sensible thing Tanya’s ever said.
Duncan 1 HOUR AGO
Fake it until you make it, I suppose.
John 1 HOUR AGO
Don't be fooled by what TP has to say; she's a hard, ideological Lefty who wants massive wealth redistribution in this nation and who thinks she's found a way to be able to do it.
Jennyetal 1 HOUR AGO
Plibersek should be delighted by attacks from the leftist rabble. That translates into votes from ordinary Australians.
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Re: Shamed Greenies still want to BAN Australia Day
You are wasting your time here, mate. Moderation is in favour of the abusers. Tsk, tsk.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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Nicole
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Re: Shamed Greenies still want to BAN Australia Day
Hang around stunspore. I urge you to make up your own mind.brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:16 pmYou are wasting your time here, mate. Moderation is in favour of the abusers. Tsk, tsk.
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Juliar
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Re: Shamed Greenies still want to BAN Australia Day
Heavens! Are Stunned and the Greeny BRossy ganging up on TRUTH and FACT in posting or are they just having a sob session about the lack of silly irrelevant political correctness ?
And note how the Greeny BRossy is trying to change the subject away from his beloved Greenies.
And note how the Greeny BRossy is trying to change the subject away from his beloved Greenies.
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Redneck
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Re: Shamed Greenies still want to BAN Australia Day
All I can say is Monk had the right idea with Juliar!
BO seems to think any nonsense posts are worth keeping to keep up the post count!
BO seems to think any nonsense posts are worth keeping to keep up the post count!
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Black Orchid
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Re: Shamed Greenies still want to BAN Australia Day
No Red. What I think is that grown men should actually try to behave like adults. I'm not here to constantly preside over these witless juvenile tantrums that some of you love to partake in so much.
Some of you have absolutely no self control. I simply give you the rope and you always end up hanging yourselves.
Some of you have absolutely no self control. I simply give you the rope and you always end up hanging yourselves.
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