Lapsed Catholic.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:29 pmChrist on a cracker. No shit Brianbrian ross wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:26 pmYou do realise that TV is not real life, Black Orchid?Black Orchid wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:00 pmI don't need a link I wanted your own words. I have never known a Catholic, and I know many, to call a priest on their deathbed. Not ever.Neferti~ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:52 pmI can only reiterate what my "lapsed Catholic" friends have told me. On MY death bed I would never, ever call for the Priest, since I have never been a Catholic, to come and give me the "Last Rights" ... lapsed Catholics do, apparently.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:38 pm
Elaborate on these entirely different ideas about things?
Here .... Catholics and Protestants are VERY different .... https://www.dw.com/en/the-main-differe ... a-37888597
I know they do it on tv though.
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Some Muslims might think that, Neferti. Some Muslims. A tiny minority but people here like to blame all Muslims. They seem to think that all Muslims are Terrorists. All Muslims want to marry underage girls. All Muslims want to kill them. Well, they don't, unsurprisingly. Time you got out and actually talked to some Muslims. You might be surprised.Neferti~ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:29 pm"They" do lots of things on TV.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:00 pmI don't need a link I wanted your own words. I have never known a Catholic, and I know many, to call a priest on their deathbed. Not ever.Neferti~ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:52 pmI can only reiterate what my "lapsed Catholic" friends have told me. On MY death bed I would never, ever call for the Priest, since I have never been a Catholic, to come and give me the "Last Rights" ... lapsed Catholics do, apparently.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:38 pmElaborate on these entirely different ideas about things?
Here .... Catholics and Protestants are VERY different .... https://www.dw.com/en/the-main-differe ... a-37888597
I know they do it on tv though.
I wasn't raised a Christian. God was never mentioned when I was a kid. We never went to Church. We never thought about how we would be "punished" if we disobeyed God. God was never mentioned. We got a smack on the bum, from Mother, if we were naughty. I can only recall getting about 3 smacks ... and I was cheeky and deserved them.
As a teenager I went to the Library and read about Buddhism. No idea why. Curious, I guess. I did have penpals overseas around then in England, Kenya, New Zealand, Fiji, Tonga, Japan, Canada and America.
There is NO Heaven, no after life .... dead is dead ....
I don't care what the Muslims do or think. That's their privacy. However, IF Muslims come here and think that they can kill us all .... because of some "God" ....
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brian ross wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:10 pmActually, they are ajudged by International Law to be "illegal combatants" which were before the first world war, known as Francs-Tireurs or Partisans - they do not wear uniforms, they do not wear badges of recognisable rank and they hide their military nature under civilian clothing. This has become of renewed importance with the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraqi in 2003. Essentially they are violent criminals, nothing more and they should be treated as such IMO. Glorifying them only well, glorifies them.Bobby wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:52 pmPeople like Greggy & Brian live in a thought bubble of democratic freedom
and democracy where even terrorists have rights.
They don't -
they are enemy combatants in a time of war.
It's a war on terror.
The law is simple - in a time of war,
traitors, spies and enemy infiltrators caught behind enemy lines i.e our streets
should be put up against a wall and shot by law - no trial.
The law in times of war allows for that.
Instead we have limp wristed apologists &
politicians with no balls who sit around making new laws
and caring about human rights.
ISIS didn't make any headway in Iraq when Saddam was in charge did they?
It was only after he was hanged that they took over.
ISIS did not exist before 2005. It was an offshoot of Al Q'aeda so Saddam Hussain had nothing whatsoever to do with them. They appeared after the US invasion of 2003. They were considered so violent that Al Q'aeda disowned them and forced them into Syria where in the civil war there, they flourished. They returned to Iraq in 2014 to a power vacuum which the Americans had created with their defeat of Al Q'aeda.
I would heartily recommend, Bobby that you acquaint yourself with the history of the movements and personalities that you seem to like to rabbit on about. You might find some surprises there.
Thanks for making some minor corrections.
The overall idea doesn't change.
What happened to terrorists under the rule of Saddam?
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Black Orchid wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:00 pmI don't need a link I wanted your own words. I have never known a Catholic, and I know many, to call a priest on their deathbed. Not ever.Neferti~ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:52 pmI can only reiterate what my "lapsed Catholic" friends have told me. On MY death bed I would never, ever call for the Priest, since I have never been a Catholic, to come and give me the "Last Rights" ... lapsed Catholics do, apparently.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:38 pmElaborate on these entirely different ideas about things?
Here .... Catholics and Protestants are VERY different .... https://www.dw.com/en/the-main-differe ... a-37888597
I know they do it on tv though.
oh dear BO I have my daughters in law are Portuguese mum very Catholic...she called the priest into the hospital when her hubby looked like he was gasping his last.... he lasted another 3 years....we think he was acting at the time.. for attention....
I do believe a lot of people from the Mediterranean still do it....probably not so much the Aussies..
I wouldnt argue over religion everyone looks at it differently talk to a zillion people and get a zillion different takes on it...
I like to think most people are good... we are still here so good must be winning... if evil was winning most of us would be long gone...
so unless you want to be caught in a revolving door where you go round and round in circles....
I would just say lets beg to differ..
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Neferti~ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:32 pmLapsed Catholic.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:29 pmChrist on a cracker. No shit Brianbrian ross wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:26 pmYou do realise that TV is not real life, Black Orchid?Black Orchid wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:00 pmI don't need a link I wanted your own words. I have never known a Catholic, and I know many, to call a priest on their deathbed. Not ever.Neferti~ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:52 pm
I can only reiterate what my "lapsed Catholic" friends have told me. On MY death bed I would never, ever call for the Priest, since I have never been a Catholic, to come and give me the "Last Rights" ... lapsed Catholics do, apparently.
Here .... Catholics and Protestants are VERY different .... https://www.dw.com/en/the-main-differe ... a-37888597
I know they do it on tv though.
actually there is quite a lot of REAL LIFE on TV these days..brian needs to get out more...
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Anytime, Bobby, anytime.Bobby wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:35 pmbrian ross wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:10 pmActually, they are ajudged by International Law to be "illegal combatants" which were before the first world war, known as Francs-Tireurs or Partisans - they do not wear uniforms, they do not wear badges of recognisable rank and they hide their military nature under civilian clothing. This has become of renewed importance with the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraqi in 2003. Essentially they are violent criminals, nothing more and they should be treated as such IMO. Glorifying them only well, glorifies them.Bobby wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:52 pmPeople like Greggy & Brian live in a thought bubble of democratic freedom
and democracy where even terrorists have rights.
They don't -
they are enemy combatants in a time of war.
It's a war on terror.
The law is simple - in a time of war,
traitors, spies and enemy infiltrators caught behind enemy lines i.e our streets
should be put up against a wall and shot by law - no trial.
The law in times of war allows for that.
Instead we have limp wristed apologists &
politicians with no balls who sit around making new laws
and caring about human rights.
ISIS didn't make any headway in Iraq when Saddam was in charge did they?
It was only after he was hanged that they took over.
ISIS did not exist before 2005. It was an offshoot of Al Q'aeda so Saddam Hussain had nothing whatsoever to do with them. They appeared after the US invasion of 2003. They were considered so violent that Al Q'aeda disowned them and forced them into Syria where in the civil war there, they flourished. They returned to Iraq in 2014 to a power vacuum which the Americans had created with their defeat of Al Q'aeda.
I would heartily recommend, Bobby that you acquaint yourself with the history of the movements and personalities that you seem to like to rabbit on about. You might find some surprises there.
Thanks for making some minor corrections.
The overall idea doesn't change.
What happened to terrorists under the rule of Saddam?
What happened to Terrorists? They were usually quietly put into a hotel room or a flat in Baghdad and then when it was felt their actions might be useful, they were let loose with a large sum of Iraqi money to do their deeds. Saddam was no saint and your attempt to portray him as one is pointless. If he didn't like you, you ended up in the woodchipper machine after a session in the torture chamber. If he found you useful, you were kept under control. Saddam was ruthless and unless you want to end up in the woodchipper, Bobby, I'd stay well away from courting totalitarian dictators. Well away.
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I think you mean there is a lot of dramatised "real life" on TV these days, Cods. It has no relationship to real life as most Australians live it.
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brian ross wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:09 pm
Anytime, Bobby, anytime.
What happened to Terrorists? They were usually quietly put into a hotel room or a flat in Baghdad and then when it was felt their actions might be useful, they were let loose with a large sum of Iraqi money to do their deeds. Saddam was no saint and your attempt to portray him as one is pointless. If he didn't like you, you ended up in the woodchipper machine after a session in the torture chamber. If he found you useful, you were kept under control. Saddam was ruthless and unless you want to end up in the woodchipper, Bobby, I'd stay well away from courting totalitarian dictators. Well away.
You need to be corrected by Donald:
Trump Says Saddam Hussein 'Killed Terrorists'
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I don't know any Aussies who have ever done it and agree it is more a cultural thing amongst some mediterraneans.cods wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:53 pmoh dear BO I have my daughters in law are Portuguese mum very Catholic...she called the priest into the hospital when her hubby looked like he was gasping his last.... he lasted another 3 years....we think he was acting at the time.. for attention....
I do believe a lot of people from the Mediterranean still do it....probably not so much the Aussies..
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Bobby, you don't want to believe what Donald tells you. You know he's a bullshitter don't you?Bobby wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:17 pmbrian ross wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:09 pm
Anytime, Bobby, anytime.
What happened to Terrorists? They were usually quietly put into a hotel room or a flat in Baghdad and then when it was felt their actions might be useful, they were let loose with a large sum of Iraqi money to do their deeds. Saddam was no saint and your attempt to portray him as one is pointless. If he didn't like you, you ended up in the woodchipper machine after a session in the torture chamber. If he found you useful, you were kept under control. Saddam was ruthless and unless you want to end up in the woodchipper, Bobby, I'd stay well away from courting totalitarian dictators. Well away.
You need to be corrected by Donald:
Trump Says Saddam Hussein 'Killed Terrorists'
Saddam Hussein Was Actually Horrible At Killing Terrorists
No, Saddam wasn’t good at killing terrorists
Trump says Saddam Hussein was an opponent of terrorism. He’s wrong
Trump’s Saddam: Terror killer or terror patron?
Was Saddam Hussein good at killing terrorists, as Donald Trump says?
Looks to me like Donald (and by extension yourself) are wrong about Saddam Hussein's record on Terrorism, Bobby.
Now, run along. You're embarrassing me.
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