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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by Rorschach » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:41 pm

brian ross wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:29 pm
Neferti~ wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:02 pm
Amanda Vanstone! She's a "liberal" from way back. Nothing conservative about her. :rofl
Oh, dearie, dearie me. Why am I reminded of the old "Get Smart" episode "The Girls from KAOS", where a Chinese KAOS agent shoots a Russian KAOS agent with the declaration, "Only my country knows true KAOS"?

Amanda Vanstone comes from the Tory party and while a wet, she is still a conservative compared to most other Australians. Tut, tut. Which version of KAOS do you hail from, Neferti?
Wrong bwian... wrong... wrong... wrong... :du :du :du :du :du

She may be conservative to you though.... :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :du :du :du :du :du :oops
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by Rorschach » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:46 pm

Rorschach wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:24 am
One more time for the apologist and denialist bwian...

Let’s ask some questions: Didn’t the ABC display a strong preference for same-sex marriage? Wasn’t it critical of border protection measures to stop asylum-seeker boats? Doesn’t it favour strong action on climate change and criticise governments for not being sufficiently ambitious? Doesn’t it project support for renewables and faster efforts to phase out fossil fuels? Wasn’t the ABC distinctly unsympathetic to the policy of corporate tax cuts? Wasn’t it hostile towards reform of section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act and unsympathetic to free speech arguments? Doesn’t it push for a referendum on an indigenous voice to parliament and criticise government over this? Isn’t it uncritical of social spending programs and critical of cuts to such programs in the cause of fiscal discipline? Isn’t it more ­focused on inequality than economic growth and more supportive of government intervention over market forces?

Perhaps all of this is fanciful. Each person has a different perception. If true or even half true, it means the ABC is the strongest force for progressive politics in the country.
You have no credibility.... bwian. :du :du :du :du :du :oops
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by Rorschach » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:53 am

Internal strife at Fortress ABC by Peter Westmore
News Weekly, October 20, 2018

It was highly revealing that The Sydney Morning Herald reported on the forced resignation of the ABC chairman under the heading “Politics”, given that the ABC is an organisation whose charter requires it to be independent, accurate and impartial.

Divisions on the boards of corporations occur frequently, and it is not surprising that the ABC board should reflect the divisions in society, particularly as the network’s programs so clearly depart from its charter on a range of important public issues such as environmentalism, migration, multiculturalism, gender politics and climate change.

In these areas, it is a participant, not an impartial and independent observer.

Despite vigorous self-promotion that it is “your ABC”, the hard evidence shows that the ABC is an outpost of left-wing groupthink.

A 2013 University of the Sunshine Coast study of the voting intentions of journalists found that 73.6 per cent of ABC journalists supported Labor or the Greens – with 41 per cent supporting the Greens. There is no reason to think that it is any different today.


What was surprising was the intervention of prominent ABC staff supporting the sacking of the $891,000-a-year chief executive of the ABC, Michelle Guthrie, and then demanding the removal of the chairman, Justin Milne, after Ms Guthrie revealed that he had asked her to dismiss two ABC journalists, which she had refused to do.

It is clear that relations between the chairman and the CEO had collapsed in the months before the board fired Ms Guthrie and, arguably, one or the other had to go.

Guthrie attacked

But it was extraordinary that within a day of Ms Guthrie’s dismissal, prominent ABC personalities including Sally Neighbour and Juanita Phillips condemned her, and supported her dismissal.

Another vocal critic was Jon Faine, host of ABC Radio’s morning program in Melbourne.

Faine said, on air: “She was given the benefit of the doubt because she was a woman. She was smart and we were excited. But she was only interested in a few parts of the organisation.

“She wouldn’t advocate for us, which is an astonishing fail. She’s been all but invisible. Every time you tried to get something from her, it was all jargon.”

Faine’s comments reveal a fundamental misunderstanding of the role of the ABC’s managing director. She is not there to champion the cause of the ABC staff, as Faine believes, but to administer a $1 billion enterprise according to its charter.

What Faine and others apparently want is a board that will support any action taken by the staff, even (or perhaps particularly) when they are acting outside the ABC’s charter.

The reason the ABC staff opposed Michelle Guthrie was apparently because she did not fraternise with the staff, and refused to be their spokeswoman.

But the reason she was dismissed was quite different. She had fallen out with the chairman of the board over his attempts to get her to dismiss ABC presenters Emma Alberici and Andrew Probyn, and because of disagreements with him over the future direction of the ABC.

Despite the fact that the ABC itself was forced to concede that particular reports by these presenters had been factually wrong and biased – in other words, in clear breach of the ABC charter – no one was held to account, and ABC management left them in place to continue to say the same things.

Michelle Guthrie, a former executive with Google, was hired to continue the ABC’s transition towards the digital platform, in addition to audio and video. But as managing director of the ABC, she was also editor-in-chief, and therefore had final responsibility for the ABC’s content, and the conduct of ABC staff.

When the chairman called on her to exercise her role in this respect, it is clear that she refused to do so, leading him to make foolish requests by email to sack them. This was never going to happen, so why do it?

For his part, the ABC chairman contributed to the breakdown in relations with Ms Guthrie by pushing “Project Jetstream”, a hugely expensive project to digitise all the ABC’s content, and put it online.

Ms Guthrie correctly said that there was no provision for such a project in the ABC’s budget, and opposed the plan.

Elsewhere, the left-wing media has been repeating that the Turnbull/Morrison Government cut $84 million from the ABC’s current budget. Yet official figures show that Federal Government funding to the ABC was $1,036 million in 2016–17; $1,044 million in 2017–18; and is estimated at $1,046 million in the current financial year.

Contrary to repeated claims, the ABC is not the only government-funded program where expenditure has been frozen. Even the National Disability Insurance Scheme expenditure is substantially below budget.

In any case, an organisation that can afford to spend nearly $900,000 for a managing director is not exactly broke.

There will be a departmental inquiry into the sacking of Ms Guthrie and the resignation of the ABC chairman. But it won’t change anything.
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by sprintcyclist » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:26 pm

Rorschach wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:53 am
Internal strife at Fortress ABC by Peter Westmore
News Weekly, October 20, 2018

It was highly revealing that The Sydney Morning Herald reported on the forced resignation of the ABC chairman under the heading “Politics”, given that the ABC is an organisation whose charter requires it to be independent, accurate and impartial.

Divisions on the boards of corporations occur frequently, and it is not surprising that the ABC board should reflect the divisions in society, particularly as the network’s programs so clearly depart from its charter on a range of important public issues such as environmentalism, migration, multiculturalism, gender politics and climate change.

In these areas, it is a participant, not an impartial and independent observer.

Despite vigorous self-promotion that it is “your ABC”, the hard evidence shows that the ABC is an outpost of left-wing groupthink.

A 2013 University of the Sunshine Coast study of the voting intentions of journalists found that 73.6 per cent of ABC journalists supported Labor or the Greens – with 41 per cent supporting the Greens. There is no reason to think that it is any different today.


What was surprising was the intervention of prominent ABC staff supporting the sacking of the $891,000-a-year chief executive of the ABC, Michelle Guthrie, and then demanding the removal of the chairman, Justin Milne, after Ms Guthrie revealed that he had asked her to dismiss two ABC journalists, which she had refused to do.

It is clear that relations between the chairman and the CEO had collapsed in the months before the board fired Ms Guthrie and, arguably, one or the other had to go.

Guthrie attacked

But it was extraordinary that within a day of Ms Guthrie’s dismissal, prominent ABC personalities including Sally Neighbour and Juanita Phillips condemned her, and supported her dismissal.

Another vocal critic was Jon Faine, host of ABC Radio’s morning program in Melbourne.

Faine said, on air: “She was given the benefit of the doubt because she was a woman. She was smart and we were excited. But she was only interested in a few parts of the organisation.

“She wouldn’t advocate for us, which is an astonishing fail. She’s been all but invisible. Every time you tried to get something from her, it was all jargon.”

Faine’s comments reveal a fundamental misunderstanding of the role of the ABC’s managing director. She is not there to champion the cause of the ABC staff, as Faine believes, but to administer a $1 billion enterprise according to its charter.

What Faine and others apparently want is a board that will support any action taken by the staff, even (or perhaps particularly) when they are acting outside the ABC’s charter.

The reason the ABC staff opposed Michelle Guthrie was apparently because she did not fraternise with the staff, and refused to be their spokeswoman.

But the reason she was dismissed was quite different. She had fallen out with the chairman of the board over his attempts to get her to dismiss ABC presenters Emma Alberici and Andrew Probyn, and because of disagreements with him over the future direction of the ABC.

Despite the fact that the ABC itself was forced to concede that particular reports by these presenters had been factually wrong and biased – in other words, in clear breach of the ABC charter – no one was held to account, and ABC management left them in place to continue to say the same things.

Michelle Guthrie, a former executive with Google, was hired to continue the ABC’s transition towards the digital platform, in addition to audio and video. But as managing director of the ABC, she was also editor-in-chief, and therefore had final responsibility for the ABC’s content, and the conduct of ABC staff.

When the chairman called on her to exercise her role in this respect, it is clear that she refused to do so, leading him to make foolish requests by email to sack them. This was never going to happen, so why do it?

For his part, the ABC chairman contributed to the breakdown in relations with Ms Guthrie by pushing “Project Jetstream”, a hugely expensive project to digitise all the ABC’s content, and put it online.

Ms Guthrie correctly said that there was no provision for such a project in the ABC’s budget, and opposed the plan.

Elsewhere, the left-wing media has been repeating that the Turnbull/Morrison Government cut $84 million from the ABC’s current budget. Yet official figures show that Federal Government funding to the ABC was $1,036 million in 2016–17; $1,044 million in 2017–18; and is estimated at $1,046 million in the current financial year.

Contrary to repeated claims, the ABC is not the only government-funded program where expenditure has been frozen. Even the National Disability Insurance Scheme expenditure is substantially below budget.

In any case, an organisation that can afford to spend nearly $900,000 for a managing director is not exactly broke.

There will be a departmental inquiry into the sacking of Ms Guthrie and the resignation of the ABC chairman. But it won’t change anything.
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by Rorschach » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:58 pm

That... is the LW Progressive ABC.... you certainly cant call it OUR ABC
it only represents a small part of Australia. :du
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by sprintcyclist » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:24 pm

Rorschach wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:58 pm
That... is the LW Progressive ABC.... you certainly cant call it OUR ABC
it only represents a small part of Australia. :du
and they do not tolerate any dissent.

Look at some of their programs, 'The Drum' is about the most blatantly biased.
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by brian ross » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:42 pm

The ABC is still the most trusted source for News and Current Affairs in Australia. It beats all the commercial outlets in the minds of the majority of Australians. No matter how much you rail against it, the people of Australia know better. They trust it.
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by Rorschach » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:59 pm

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

LOL Bwian at it again citing progressive vested interest groups as reliable unbiased sources of information....


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

bwian we keep telling you you need to get out more and mix with real australians... :du :oops

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