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Rorschach
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by Rorschach » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:03 pm
brian ross wrote:Rorschach wrote:
We have only 2 major parties.
TWO
Nope. We have four - ALP, Liberals, Nationals and Greens. All are represented in federal Parliament. All have a considerable following amongst the population of voters. No matter how much you deny that, it won't be any truer.
NO WE HAVE 2 ASK ANYONE.... YOU COULD ALWAYS CHECK THE VOTE PERCENTAGE AND PROVE YOURSELF WRONG AND SAVE ME THE TIME AND EFFORT. BTW ACCORDING TO YOUR CRITERIA ONE NATION WOULD ALSO BE A MAJOR PARTY.
They are all the solution that you appear to ask me for continually.
I only asked you once.... I also asked you where your solution was.
Those are symptomatic of someone who dislikes being told the truth about reality.
Flame someone who cares... Troll.
Oh, dear, ad hominem insult. The last resort of someone who cannot muster an argument. We have four major parties in Australia. Four, not two.
OH NO....YOU HAVE A HABIT OF CONTINUALLY FLAMING PEOPLE... IN FACT FLAMING, TROLLING AND AD HOM ARE USUALLY YOUR FIRST RESORT. POSTING THE TRUTH ABOUT YOU IS NOT AD HOM BTW.
But if you insist I will ask you again. But it seems YOU have no real solutions.
The system we use at present means we must all vote for someone we do not wish to vote for or our vote will be counted as invalid.
Wrong.
NO IT IS RIGHT.
We have a preferential voting system - almost the fairest voting system in the world (Optional Preferential is slightly fairer).
AND THE PENNY DROPS.
The end result is that the candidate who receives the greatest number of votes from the voters, wins that seat in an election. It allows multiple parties to have an equal chance of winning - if they can muster the votes. A first-past-the-post system becomes useless when there are more than two candidates.
SO YOU SAY BUT MANY DISAGREE WITH YOU.
So what IS YOUR SOLUTION? That is me asking you again.
For the third time. I have provided you with a solution. You don't like it so refuse to acknowledge it because it makes the people who are responsible, responsible - the voters. Without that, any system, no matter how it is structured, will fail dismally. If you don't like the answer I have provided, tough. Run along and shout at someone you can hope to intimidate. Voters are the only solution that works. If voters take responsibility and actually control their candidates, everything will be sweet. When voters refuse to accept their responsibility, everything goes to shit.
HOW CAN I DISLIKE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST... YOU HAVE NO SOLUTION, NO SUGGESTIONS EVEN. 
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:49 pm
Rorschach wrote:brian ross wrote:Rorschach wrote:I would suggest the only person displaying a bias here is yourself. "Progs", "lunatic", etc.
Etc? There is no etc...
in fact you have no point at all.
Progs is simply short for Progressives ...
If you don't think many stances taken by The current greens are not
lunatic then you are in the vast minority.
Why? Because I actually read and listen to what the Greens are saying? Because I actually understand the issues they are talking about. I don't necessarily agree with them on all matters but on many, I think they are dead right. I know quite a few Greens as well. Their hearts are in the right place - they care about Australia and Australians. Just as do many Liberals, National and ALP members. I do not write any group off simply because there are a few lunatics amongst their members.
That last sentence was soooo funny, coming from you considering just what you've posted here so far let alone decades of your biased abuse re one party in particular.
Sooo...
Which party is that? The Tories? I tell people about their stupidity, when they are stupid and I praise them when they deserve it. I admit I don't like most of their policies - they are venal and petty for the most part, designed to profit only one end of town at the expense of the working people. Some of their policies I do like - their gun one for example. It was one of the few good things Howard did.
Got nothing again I see... why is it you always resort to ad hom and refuse to address the issues or answer questions.
What questions have I refused to answer? Or is it that you simply don't like the answer you've been given? I have IMO addressed the issues and answered the questions you have posed. Voter responsibility is the answer. Politicians respond to the stick. If voters didn't roll over and believe the bullshit they are handed by all parties, then the Politicians would respond. They have to or they are out of office.
BTW I listen and read widely and check even the Greens website fairly often.
I'm not a rusted on tribal voter I'm a swinging voter.
The Greens stopped being The Greens decades ago, BTW.
The Greens have evolved, without a doubt but deep in their hearts they are still green. Their policies are Green and what they propose reflects that. They have passion and a heart.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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Rorschach
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by Rorschach » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:09 am
brian ross wrote:Rorschach wrote:brian ross wrote:Rorschach wrote:I would suggest the only person displaying a bias here is yourself. "Progs", "lunatic", etc.
Etc? There is no etc...
in fact you have no point at all.
Progs is simply short for Progressives ...
If you don't think many stances taken by The current greens are not
lunatic then you are in the vast minority.
Why? Because I actually read and listen to what the Greens are saying? Because I actually understand the issues they are talking about. I don't necessarily agree with them on all matters but on many, I think they are dead right. I know quite a few Greens as well. Their hearts are in the right place - they care about Australia and Australians. Just as do many Liberals, National and ALP members. I do not write any group off simply because there are a few lunatics amongst their members.
That last sentence was soooo funny, coming from you considering just what you've posted here so far let alone decades of your biased abuse re one party in particular.
Sooo...
Which party is that? The Tories?
COME ON ... DON'T PLAY COY EVERYONE KNOWS THE PARTY AND LEADER YOU USE AS YOUR WHIPPING BOY... THE ONE YOU ARE SO PERSONALLY AND POLITICALLY BIASED AGAINST. YOU CAN'T HIDE THAT LIGHT BEHIND A BUSHEL I tell people about their stupidity, when they are stupid and I praise them when they deserve it.
YOU NEVER PRAISE THEM OR THEIR LEADER EVEN WHEN OTHER PARTIES OR THE MAJOR PARTIES ALSO HAVE OR ADOPT THEIR POLICIES I admit I don't like most of their policies - they are venal and petty for the most part, designed to profit only one end of town at the expense of the working people. Some of their policies I do like - their gun one for example. It was one of the few good things Howard did.
TSK TSK TSK...OBFUSCATING AS USUAL.
Got nothing again I see... why is it you always resort to ad hom and refuse to address the issues or answer questions.
What questions have I refused to answer? Or is it that you simply don't like the answer you've been given? I have IMO addressed the issues and answered the questions you have posed. Voter responsibility is the answer. Politicians respond to the stick. If voters didn't roll over and believe the bullshit they are handed by all parties, then the Politicians would respond. They have to or they are out of office.
MORE OBFUSCATION AND DENIAL.... STOP WASTING OUR TIME... STOP POSTING NONSENSE... IT IS MANDATORY TO VOTE FOR ONE MAJOR PARTY IN OUR CURRENT SYSTEM THERE IS NO WAY TO PUNISH BOTH... YOU SURELY KNOW THAT.... THE REASON THEY REFUSE TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM IS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP THE STATUS QUO.
BTW I listen and read widely and check even the Greens website fairly often.
I'm not a rusted on tribal voter I'm a swinging voter.
The Greens stopped being The Greens decades ago, BTW.
The Greens have evolved, without a doubt but deep in their hearts they are still green. Their policies are Green and what they propose reflects that. They have passion and a heart.
THE GREENS ARE TRULY WATERMELONS, YOU MAY LIKE THAT I HAVE NO DOUBT A VAST MANY DON'T, PASSION AND HEART IS NOT A WINNER IF THEY DON'T ALSO HAVE A BRAIN. ONE NATION, PAULINE HANSON HAVE PASSION AND HEART....
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LEFTWINGER supreme
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by LEFTWINGER supreme » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:54 am
The libtards are even more hated as the RC rolls on , strategically mighty Bill has torn libtards a new one , beautiful just beautiful

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Bobby
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by Bobby » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:01 am
LEFTWINGER supreme wrote:The libtards are even more hated as the RC rolls on,
strategically mighty Bill has torn libtards a new one , beautiful just beautiful

Those thieves have robbed ordinary Mum and Dad Australians.
Will we ever see justice?
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Rorschach
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by Rorschach » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:33 pm
DOLT - A person who is stupid and entirely tedious at the same time, like bwian. Oblivious to their own mental incapacity. On IGNORE - Warrior, mellie, Nom De Plume, FLEKTARD
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LEFTWINGER supreme
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by LEFTWINGER supreme » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:57 pm
The truth is the libtards are copping a flogging over their opposition to it and nobody gives one single shit what Labor did about it 10 years ago , ya gone at election rtards , the deadest of dead men walking
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by Black Orchid » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:54 pm
The only people who will benefit from Shorten are those on welfare including all those both major parties have swamped us with.
So you will get a one off payment or something. What then?
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:00 pm
Rorschach, when you stop shouting and start using the quote function properly, I will answer your points. I know who you are, BTW. It is obvious. Tsk, tsk.

Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:05 pm
Bobby wrote:Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:Bobby wrote:Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:Bobby wrote:Jut use your real name - you fool.
Hey, what's the fun in that?
This is a serious thread on whether those banking crooks should be hanged
not a playground for your copper internet off topic crap.
No it's not: the whole thing is a charade!

No charade - already 2 AMP top men have resigned -
more to follow -
hopefully some jail time too.
It's an excuse for a mea culpa that doesn't have the disgraceful copper internet as its reason.
This is why they will lose the next election but they don't want copper internet to get the blame as that stench will hang around for the better part of the asian century we built!
DISINTEGRATION COMETH

Stop making things worse!

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