Pathway to a Caliphate

[Rorschach]

Beheading bastards!

I think you'll find that pre Christianity and Islam Useless...

[Rorschach]

But do they all advocate beheadings for non-believers of their particular faith?

No they don't, Irish Catholics were partial to blowing the shit out of buildings with people inside, .. Or just shooting those with an opposing Christian denomination ... much more civilised.

Yes and shooting and killing the English and anyone siding with them politically.

[Rorschach]

Funny the quote things seems a bit dodgy lately

That's not true name one non-secular Christian country that is doing that.

You never heard of missionaries that go into countries and convert its population? Ever heard of places like Samoa? Philippines the list is endless. What about the crusades? What Islam country is doing it? It's not countries per se it's members of a religion that do it. My point is many major religions try to push their belief system down the throats of anyone that will listen.

Like I said name one non-secular Christian country doing what you claim they were doing... it ain't happening.

[Rorschach]

I am a Reformed Agnostic. (Don't ask, it was something my late husband used for those of us who do NOT believe in God).

There is no God
There is no Heaven
Dead is Dead

Non believer... off with your head.

Actually beheading of fellow Muslims does occur for serious crimes like adultery, repeated theft. A woman got stoned to death a couple of days ago as well.

Look what the Spanish did in Mexico and South America. They burned all the Aztec writings and converted them all to Christianity. We come and bring all our diseases, pestilences to steal your land you way of life and will destroy your culture> The good news is we bring the good news. We will bring you to the one true church and save your soul for the afterlife because you will have a crap life here on Earth after we are done with you..... please pay in gold.... 10 ingots in the tin please.

Could you who hates it when people bring religion into the science topics etc... refrain from posting your atheistic ridicule in pseudo religious topics... I don't shove my Christianity down your throat so stop shoving your Atheism down mine.
BO's point and mine is that the Crusades and all the other crap you lot are bringing up is well and truly in the past... Christianity had a Reformation... the West is non-secular, but Islam is still based and will forever be based in the past.

[Aussie]

Beheading bastards!

I think you'll find that pre Christianity and Islam Useless...

Nope.

[Super Nova]

Could you who hates it when people bring religion into the science topics etc... refrain from posting your atheistic ridicule in pseudo religious topics... I don't shove my Christianity down your throat so stop shoving your Atheism down mine.
BO's point and mine is that the Crusades and all the other crap you lot are bringing up is well and truly in the past... Christianity had a Reformation... the West is non-secular, but Islam is still based and will forever be based in the past.

Roach,

I am sorry if I offended, it was not my intent.

you are correct. Christianity had a reformation. The nature of the governance of Islam is different. There is no central authority like the Pope to manage change from. It is loosely organised without the hierarchy. Change is much more difficult due to this.

I also think that in the west the separation of church and state has been a major driver for our freedoms as well.

Islamic states don't have this separation or the laws are based on Islamic principles.

[Rorschach]

Beheading bastards!

I think you'll find that pre Christianity and Islam Useless...

Nope.

YEP...

[Rorschach]

Could you who hates it when people bring religion into the science topics etc... refrain from posting your atheistic ridicule in pseudo religious topics... I don't shove my Christianity down your throat so stop shoving your Atheism down mine.
BO's point and mine is that the Crusades and all the other crap you lot are bringing up is well and truly in the past... Christianity had a Reformation... the West is non-secular, but Islam is still based and will forever be based in the past.

Roach,

I am sorry if I offended, it was not my intent.

You are correct. Christianity had a reformation. The nature of the governance of Islam is different. There is no central authority like the Pope to manage change from. Yet the Pope isn't the head of Christianity either.... It is loosely organised without the hierarchy. Change is much more difficult due to this.

I also think that in the west the separation of church and state has been a major driver for our freedoms as well.

Islamic states don't have this separation or the laws are based on Islamic principles.

Thanks for keeping the Atheism out...

[Super Nova]

Yes but each sect of Christianity has a leader and a governance structure that is centrally or hieratically controlled. That makes it more like a corporation and is significantly different to the structure of Islam's governance. That's my point.

[Rorschach]

Yes, IMO Islam is an unmitigated mess and all members largely unaccountable.
Did you watch the youtube?