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Re: Leadership rumblings in the LNP

Post by 5.56 NATO » Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:35 am

GeorgeH wrote:Abbott is despised and his approval figures show he cannot lift LNP support.

Is Mesma the Lady Mesothelioma being groomed as a new Leader? Consider:

She seems to be opposing everything he says lately. Today she said she did not find face coverings confronting, deliberately throwing Abbott’s own words back at him.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 0pjoh.html

Then she said she would fight him on any cuts to foreign aid.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-02/j ... id/5786754

I don’t, for one minute, think Ms Bishop is leader material, she would be a disaster, but I’m beginning to think she is being used or manipulated by others who are desperate to get rid of Abbott. The lack of talent in the LNP front and back benches is so dire that JBitchop is being considered as alternative Leader? (More compliant puppet more like.)

I think MYEFO might be the last chance for monkey and Hokey.


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Re: Leadership rumblings in the LNP

Post by Rorschach » Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:45 pm

Where's that political ratbag Monk when you need him?

What was that about everyone despising Abbott? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Tony Abbott's personal approval up, but major policies unpopular: Fairfax Ipsos poll
Date November 3, 2014
James Massola and Heath Aston

Prime Minister Tony Abbott's personal approval has surged with voters over the past three months, while the Coalition has also clawed back support but still narrowly trails Labor in the two-party preferred vote.

The first Fairfax Ipsos nationwide poll shows Mr Abbott and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten are now tied as preferred prime minister, but, worryingly for the government, three key planks of its policy reform agenda are deeply unpopular with voters.

A whopping 64 per cent of voters opposed deregulating the setting of university fees, with just 28 per cent in favour. Forty per cent of voters supported Mr Abbott's signature paid parental leave scheme and 54 per cent opposed it.

And 41 per cent of voters backed a rise in the GST in exchange for income tax cuts – an idea that came into sharp focus last week as Mr Abbott called for a debate about the federation and tax system – while 52 per cent opposed the idea.


Overall, the poll of 1401 voters, conducted between Thursday and Saturday, shows the Coalition trails Labor 49 per cent to 51 per cent, meaning the government would probably have narrowly lost an election if one were held over the weekend.

But the government will be buoyed by a surge in support since the last Fairfax Nielsen poll was conducted in July.

During that time, Mr Abbott has crafted an uncompromising reputation on national security, taking a lead role in the outrage over the downing of Malaysian Airways flight MH17 and his now famous threat to "shirt front" Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The poll results are based on a nationally representative survey of 1,401 respondents (aged 18+) conducted by telephone on 30 Oct-1 Nov 2014. The two-party vote is estimated on the basis of preference flows in the 2013 election.

Deploying forces to confront Islamic State also appears to have enhanced his approval in the electorate.

During the period since the last Fairfax Nielsen poll, he has secured the repeal of the carbon and mining taxes and last week saw the passage of his Direct Action climate-change legislation.

The Coalition's two-party preferred vote has risen from 46 per cent to 49 per cent and its primary vote has risen from 39 per cent to 42 per cent.

In the days after the unpopular May budget, the Coalition's two-party preferred vote in the Fairfax Nielsen fell as low as 44 per cent to Labor's 56 per cent.

Primary support for the Coalition is now at a six-month high, while Labor is back where it was in June as it railed against a deeply unpopular Budget.

Labor's two-party preferred vote has fallen three points, from 54 per cent to 51 per cent, while its primary vote has dropped from 40 per cent to 37 per cent.

Fairfax Ipsos pollster Jessica Elgood said Mr Abbott appeared to have benefited from, among other things, his government's strong national security focus.

"In terms of the Coalition figures, the increase reflects Mr Abbott's greater international profile and his strong position in deploying troops and taking on Vladimir Putin," Ms Elgood said.

"That has played strongly for him but time will tell if that's a longer-term trend."

"Personal support for Bill Shorten has risen over the last few months, which essentially reflects the bipartisan position he has taken on the international posture of the Abbott government."

The surge in Mr Abbott's personal standing has been dramatic, with the prime minister's approval rating rising 4 percentage points to 42 per cent and his disapproval rating falling 7 percentage points to 49 per cent.

This gives Mr Abbott a net negative approval rating of -7 per cent, an 11 per cent improvement on the -18 net negative approval rating recorded in July.

Mr Abbott and Mr Shorten are now tied as preferred Prime Minister on 41 per cent each, with no change recorded for Mr Abbott, and Mr Shorten seeing a 5 per cent drop in support since July as preferred prime minister.

And while Labor has seen its two-party preferred and primary votes fall away, opposition leader Bill Shorten's bipartisan approach to these international events appears to have paid dividends.

His approval rating has risen 2 percentage points since July to 43 per cent, while his disapproval rating has fallen 4 percentage points since July.

The biggest loser in the October poll is the Palmer United Party. Its primary support almost halved to just three per cent as leader Clive Palmer struggled to keep a handle on volatile Senator Jacqui Lambie and sided with the government on a number of issues.

Support for the Greens remains stronger than at the 2013 election at 12 per cent.

The telephone poll included 21 per cent of calls to mobiles phones and has a 2.6 per cent margin for error.
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Re: Leadership rumblings in the LNP

Post by mantra » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:14 pm

Rorschach wrote:What was that about everyone despising Abbott?
His approval ratings are up, but not because he's a good bloke. Border security and fear mongering have done the trick. Abbott may get a second term, but it's unlikely he'll get a third when the electorate has had a good dose of the austerity imposed on those on lower to middle incomes.

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Re: Leadership rumblings in the LNP

Post by Rorschach » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:08 pm

Just because you and Monk are haters, doesn't mean everyone else is...

Personally the Progressive Left cries of fear mongering etc don't hold water, I'm not afraid are you?

Any government that has bad policy should be thrown out. But not because the progs dislike people of a different opinion or political persuasion.
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Re: Leadership rumblings in the LNP

Post by Neferti » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:41 pm

5.56 NATO wrote:
GeorgeH wrote:Abbott is despised and his approval figures show he cannot lift LNP support.
when Abbott is removed as PM by his own party I will cease to think you are the biggest cock rag on the internet, until then rest peacefully in the knowledge that you are possibly the stupidest fluffy bunny I have been fortunate enough not to have ever crossed paths with :h
The rusted on leftards, like George/Monk, still think Malcolm Turnbull should be leader/PM. :shock:

Unlike the Labor Party, the Coalition tends to keep their chosen Leader and are far more loyal than the Leftards are, especially once that Leader wins an Election and becomes Prime Minister.

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Re: Leadership rumblings in the LNP

Post by Rorschach » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:59 pm

It would appear the only RUMBLINGS going on are all in Monk's head Nef. :roll:
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Re: Leadership rumblings in the LNP

Post by Neferti » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:10 pm

Rorschach wrote:It would appear the only RUMBLINGS going on are all in Monk's head Nef. :roll:
As USUAL.

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Re: Leadership rumblings in the LNP

Post by mantra » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:15 am

Rorschach wrote:Just because you and Monk are haters, doesn't mean everyone else is...

Personally the Progressive Left cries of fear mongering etc don't hold water, I'm not afraid are you?

Any government that has bad policy should be thrown out. But not because the progs dislike people of a different opinion or political persuasion.
I didn't like Hawke either. I don't like many of the Coalition policies - can't you understand that? I think they're too aggressive and too damaging. If I did I would vote for them. Same goes for Labor. I don't like Shorten either.

I don't even like Christine Milne, but no doubt I'll vote for the Greens again because I still prefer more of their policies than those of either of the major parties. Just because I prefer more of their policies - doesn't mean that I like all of them, but they still have more going for them than either of the major parties.

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Re: Leadership rumblings in the LNP

Post by Rorschach » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:50 am

mantra wrote:
Rorschach wrote:Just because you and Monk are haters, doesn't mean everyone else is...

Personally the Progressive Left cries of fear mongering etc don't hold water, I'm not afraid are you?

Any government that has bad policy should be thrown out. But not because the progs dislike people of a different opinion or political persuasion.
I didn't like Hawke either. I don't like many of the Coalition policies - can't you understand that? I think they're too aggressive and too damaging. If I did I would vote for them. Same goes for Labor. I don't like Shorten either.

I don't even like Christine Milne, but no doubt I'll vote for the Greens again because I still prefer more of their policies than those of either of the major parties. Just because I prefer more of their policies - doesn't mean that I like all of them, but they still have more going for them than either of the major parties.
Yet Abbott is the only one you continually whinge about, lie about, blame or abuse.
Got nothing to do with my understanding anything, it's got everything to do with your political and personal bias.
The Greens will never form government and they are just a more airy fairy LW version of Labor.
Start a topic and prove they are not. :roll:
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Re: Leadership rumblings in the LNP

Post by boxy » Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:28 am

IQS.RLOW wrote:ALP supporters love to hype Abbott replacement syndrome desperately hoping to be vindicated for the ALP stuff up of the century inthe Rudd/Gillard/Rudd merry go round and wishing the Liberal party performs the same shit weasel trick.

ALP types always forget that unlike the ALP, Liberals aren't stupid like they were.

Abbott will see out the next two elections as leader at least.

Guaranteed.
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