Time for a Mini Budget?

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Re: Time for a Mini Budget?

Post by Rorschach » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:11 pm

GeorgeH wrote:Well, there will be a miniBudget. I doubt most items will live past that. Rubbish...

If the Budget looked like passing spending really will fall off a cliff. The constant trash talking of the economy by the Libs has already depressed spending. Rubbish...

They are just so incredibly incompetent! Rubbish... if you like I could define it more specifically as unsubstantiated twaddle
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Re: Time for a Mini Budget?

Post by GeorgeH » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:12 pm

You may have noted I no longer respond to your posts, Lucas, that is because I have put you on ignore.

Naffy saying I don’t have a sense of humor is more classic irony.

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Re: Time for a Mini Budget?

Post by GeorgeH » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:15 pm

Roach—that is just the whining of a Lib fanboi. If you want to discuss something with me then put up a decent argument. As I said before saying “Rubbish” does not make something rubbish.

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Re: Time for a Mini Budget?

Post by Rorschach » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:16 pm

GeorgeH wrote:Good shape—a structural Budget deficit of $20-30Bn a year? Good shape with an infrastructure deficit of $900Bn on one estimate?
Good shape with a highly indebted household sector?

We had a boom. It bust as booms do. Too much of Howard’s reckless spending is still in the Budget, too many of Costello (and one by Rudd/Swan) tax cuts bedevilling revenue to this day.
Good shape with public assets sold at firesale prices so their revenues are denied to the govt of the day?
Good shape with Telstra privatised as a vertically integrated monopoly?
Well I can see where your "facts" are coming from...
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Bugger me if I can see how you can read anything in there.
So I'm guessing you just make CRAP up all the time. :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Re: Time for a Mini Budget?

Post by Rorschach » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:19 pm

GeorgeH wrote:Roach—that is just the whining of a Lib fanboi. If you want to discuss something with me then put up a decent argument. As I said before saying “Rubbish” does not make something rubbish.
Well since I don't vote for any one particular party and never have then your lies and libel is insulting to say the least.

You on the other hand are well and truly rusted on and as such are a complete hypocrite.

How would you like to prove for once that what you say isn't rubbish... because it certainly is unsubstantiated twaddle.

Truth is apart from your vindictive bias and ad hom, you have nothing.
As for putting up a decent argument... puhlease... when have you ever? :roll:
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Re: Time for a Mini Budget?

Post by mantra » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:23 pm

GeorgeH wrote:Well, there will be a miniBudget. I doubt most items will live past that.

If the Budget looked like passing spending really will fall off a cliff. The constant trash talking of the economy by the Libs has already depressed spending.

They are just so incredibly incompetent!
There might be a mini-budget - but according to Abbott the original budget isn't going to go away. I couldn't find the written article, but here's the clip for confirmation.

http://media.canberratimes.com.au/news/ ... 32876.html

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Re: Time for a Mini Budget?

Post by GeorgeH » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:27 pm

Nah, he will forget about these stupid things soon enough. He has made it plain you cannot rely on what he says, spontaneous or scripted or written down and signed.

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Re: Time for a Mini Budget?

Post by Rorschach » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:31 pm

mantra wrote:
Rorschach wrote:Is the Budget bad.... not as bad as it could have been.
Are restructuring changes necessary, yes they are.
Are some measures poorly thought out or based on myths... my oath they are.
But if it wasn't for the Labor/ Green-Labor governments under Rudd and Gillard, we probably wouldn't be in this situation.
You can't blame the previous government all the time. I don't... and unlike some I don't blame 1 side of politics all the time either. If you do - then you may as well go further back and blame Howard for his earlier porkbarrelling which is no longer sustainable. No that's just rubbish and more of the howard hatred you and monk displayed for many many years... LW progs love to hate.

The government is already restructuring as much as they can without Senate approval. True. Changes to welfare, tax concessions, federal funding to hospitals, schools etc. are continually and quietly being made and we won't know what they are until they affect us personally. But if you read the papers and listen to the media you will know most of it, even if it isn't first hand.

Abbott has already said he's not going to make any changes to the original budget. Well, they already have.So perhaps you are misquoting him. It will stay in the background in its current form until the next election, no it wont every year we have a budget where he's assuming he'll win and then it will be automatically passed. :roll: As he hasn't got any effective opposition, the chances are that he will be returned. well at least poll wise they seem pretty effective, at an election those polls won't count.

If the Coalition is voted in again - my main objections are the budget's medical co-payments really why? I don't see the problem with it I would have made it 5 dollars or less, with people with chronic illnesses etc excempt and the cuts to the safety net for the unemployed. yes, trying to live below the poverty line is a problem. Expect a massive increase in crime, suicide and people dying in their homes simply because they can't afford medical treatment. I don't expect there will be a lot of that mantra, most people are decent, most mentally stable and most can still get medical treatment. I know people who will be seriously affected by this budget. yet many economists call it mild and the ALP and Green descriptions as shrill exaggerations. Surprisingly to all those who live comfortably - $7 to the doctor, pathology and/or nuclear medicine will be unaffordable to a large section of the population. With such serious funding cuts by both state and federal governments to our hospitals - people will be queued up out into the street to get medical attention. There's that Green shrillness
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Re: Time for a Mini Budget?

Post by skippy » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:33 pm

I don't think he'll keep a lot of things as they are. But the war on terror has taken the budget off the front page.

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Re: Time for a Mini Budget?

Post by Lucas » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:35 pm

GeorgeH wrote:You may have noted I no longer respond to your posts like I just , Lucas, that is because I have put you on ignore and respond from there.

Naffy saying I don’t have a sense of humor is more classic irony.
Of course you no longer respond to my posts Boy George you're a cracker. Wait a minute who did I just respond too. All to confusing I guess. Oh thats right the guy that clones this site and puts shit on its posters and forums from his failed clone of it with Moantra.

Yeah thats right the bright spark with a sense of humor :rofl

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